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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    Caslen wrote:

    but my two best candidates

    Aiming low?

    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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    Caslen
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    Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)

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      It doesn't belong there.

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      Caslen
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      Maybe it should be in the covering letter then - either way since it has a significant bearing on the applicants ability to do he job it should be somewhere, shouldn't it?

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        Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        I know, it is a tough, double edged sword. Many refuse to work for less. hotels won't lower their rates, restaurants (except for Taco Bell) cost more, Government is increasing taxes to cover shortfalls instead of cutting spending, the Baby Boom generation is retiring, and teachers are giving A's to copy-and-paste from Wikipedia research papers in High School and a businesses in the middle whose investments in tech and process are finally maturing can't take advantage of the situation. Something has to give.

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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          Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)

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          Dalek Dave
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          If they need visas then this could be an extra cost to you. There are various hoops to jump through and red tape to tie up.

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            Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)

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            Lost User
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            You could hire me, what kind of job is this?

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              Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)

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              SinghUlarity
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              I graduated around a year back from a US university and everywhere I go i see more Indians interviewing *and hired* :rolleyes: than Americans, beats me. Aren't there supposed to be a lot of unemployed Americans around? And no they are not hired at lower packages(in fact it implies added VISA processing fees) compared to their American peers, so it isn't cheap labor.

              I are n00b.

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                You could hire me, what kind of job is this?

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                No! me me me! Pick me! ;P


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                  I graduated around a year back from a US university and everywhere I go i see more Indians interviewing *and hired* :rolleyes: than Americans, beats me. Aren't there supposed to be a lot of unemployed Americans around? And no they are not hired at lower packages(in fact it implies added VISA processing fees) compared to their American peers, so it isn't cheap labor.

                  I are n00b.

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  Goto Dice.com Search for a C# job (area does not matter) Try and talk to someone who isn't from India. The payout for recruiters is so lucrative that placing even one candidate is enough to cover the cost of living for a year in many countries (my assumption based on the annual wage in U.S. dollars of said countries and considering a $5/hr commission can be 20 grand a year). Such a market incentives fishing. There is virtually no cost for a recruitment firm to start. HR is FLOODED WITH resumes, anecdotally most are from the same background as the recruiters because of the language barrier and from what I have seen on the resumes many are copy and past lies. So if the vast majority of your candidates lie on their resumes and have such poor language skills when you call, what is the average H.R. person to think when they find an honest resume from a local? It is a volume game right now.

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    If they are on Work Visas or are otherwise authorized to work in the UK, then does it make a difference?

                    As far as the work goes no, but it might be a problem getting to the work since the employee would be required to travel throughout europe and the USA something that was clearly stated in the job posting

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Caslen wrote:

                    As far as the work goes no, but it might be a problem getting to the work since the employee would be required to travel throughout europe and the USA something that was clearly stated in the job posting

                    Yeah that would add a level of difficulty. Though it's not that hard to get Business visas to the US, Canada and multiple entry Schengen Visas to the EU countries. But I get your point.

                    Regards, Nish


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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      Goto Dice.com Search for a C# job (area does not matter) Try and talk to someone who isn't from India. The payout for recruiters is so lucrative that placing even one candidate is enough to cover the cost of living for a year in many countries (my assumption based on the annual wage in U.S. dollars of said countries and considering a $5/hr commission can be 20 grand a year). Such a market incentives fishing. There is virtually no cost for a recruitment firm to start. HR is FLOODED WITH resumes, anecdotally most are from the same background as the recruiters because of the language barrier and from what I have seen on the resumes many are copy and past lies. So if the vast majority of your candidates lie on their resumes and have such poor language skills when you call, what is the average H.R. person to think when they find an honest resume from a local? It is a volume game right now.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                      SinghUlarity
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                      Maybe that's true for contract jobs but I'm talking fresh grad jobs when nobody has learned to lie on their resumes yet. I still see companies calling in more Indians for interviews than Americans....oh wait where i graduated from there were 80% Indians as grad. students and I was in a decent university and a costly one at that...is that the problem?

                      I are n00b.

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                        Normally I would say fail straight away, but my two best candidates both have UK addresses but their most recent work experience was in India...

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                        Henry Minute
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                        Ask them.

                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          If they are on Work Visas or are otherwise authorized to work in the UK, then does it make a difference?

                          As far as the work goes no, but it might be a problem getting to the work since the employee would be required to travel throughout europe and the USA something that was clearly stated in the job posting

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                          If you are UK based and paid then you are allowed to travel to (and work for short periods in) most countries without requiring work visas; I did that for the last 15 years of my employment. However you may need a travel visa just to enter certain countries such as USA, Middle East, India etc.

                          It's time for a new signature.

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                            Maybe it should be in the covering letter then - either way since it has a significant bearing on the applicants ability to do he job it should be somewhere, shouldn't it?

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            In theory, it has no bearing on the applicant's ability.

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                              In theory, it has no bearing on the applicant's ability.

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                              Caslen
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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              In theory, it has no bearing on the applicant's ability.

                              In theory that statement is bullsh1t, if he can't do 50% of the work because he can't work outside the UK then he isn't fully able to do the job as stated.

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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                In theory, it has no bearing on the applicant's ability.

                                In theory that statement is bullsh1t, if he can't do 50% of the work because he can't work outside the UK then he isn't fully able to do the job as stated.

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                That has nothing to do with ability. Opportunity perhaps. "I could rule the world if I could only get the parts." -- The Waitresses

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                                  That has nothing to do with ability. Opportunity perhaps. "I could rule the world if I could only get the parts." -- The Waitresses

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                                  Caslen
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                                  Ability or opportunity, either way I would be wasting my time, just like I am now :|

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