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    There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

    Christopher Duncan
    www.PracticalUSA.com
    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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      There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

      Christopher Duncan
      www.PracticalUSA.com
      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
      Copywriting Services

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      Christopher Duncan wrote:

      In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

      Since they rarely, if ever, learn from their multitudinous snafus I can only assume it is Milk of Amnesia[^].

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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        There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

        Christopher Duncan
        www.PracticalUSA.com
        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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        Christopher Duncan wrote:

        with an empty pizza box

        Feel free to put a piece of wood in the box before. You can even sign it with my name.

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          There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

          Christopher Duncan
          www.PracticalUSA.com
          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box.

          ftfy


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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            There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

            Christopher Duncan
            www.PracticalUSA.com
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            Christopher Duncan wrote:

            I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box.

            What did that poor pizza box ever do to you? :confused:

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              There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

              Christopher Duncan
              www.PracticalUSA.com
              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
              Copywriting Services

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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              I tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.

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                There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

                Christopher Duncan
                www.PracticalUSA.com
                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                Copywriting Services

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                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                They simply tell users to buy a faster box.

                They said "we increased the security of the browser by only running it on a secure OS" which is lame enough already, but Vista boxes aren't faster than XP boxes. For example, I have a nice XP x64 box here with 8GB ram, a 3.3GHz quad core (10% OCed) and a GTX260. About a meter to the right of me stands an old Vista box with 512MB ram, a 2.03GHz single core (slightly OCed) and a 6600LE - which can barely even run Vista, let alone any actual programs. (so much for "Vista Capable") It also has XP installed (and it can actually run programs when started in XP), but still.

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                  There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

                  Christopher Duncan
                  www.PracticalUSA.com
                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                  Copywriting Services

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                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                  As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does.

                  Yes, but IE8 does support XP, just stuck with this one. IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11 as well, but nobody complains about that.

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                    I tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.

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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.

                    Not every corporation will have moved to Windows 7, where I work we are missing out Vista but its looking like mid 2011 before we can move to Windows 7 all because we need to test some severe legacy systems and how it works in Windows 7

                    As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.

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                      I tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                      by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.

                      How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?

                      Yusuf May I help you?

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                        There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

                        Christopher Duncan
                        www.PracticalUSA.com
                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                        Copywriting Services

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                        Didn't you hear? XP is dead. It has less than 65% of the worldwide market share. ;P In all seriousness, I don't mind this. In spite of everyone's opinion (most of whom never used it) Vista wasn't terrible from SP1 on. I upgraded to Win7 before launch and for the one, single XP-centric app that won't run on Win7, I use the built in XP virtual machine. It's better for window & document management, file searching, security, new hardware support, installation, trouble shooting, finding what you need, taskbar implmentation, boot time and networking. And eye candy. I would rather MS be putting their efforts into THAT instead of a 10 year old OS with roots in the 16bit world. Shoot...I guess they got whatever they're drinking into my water supply :laugh:

                        They Call me Mister James

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                          by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.

                          How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?

                          Yusuf May I help you?

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                          Cling to it with your bare fists and embrace IE8!

                          They Call me Mister James

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                            Christopher Duncan wrote:

                            As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does.

                            Yes, but IE8 does support XP, just stuck with this one. IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11 as well, but nobody complains about that.

                            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                            IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11

                            So does not support FF, Chrome, Safari, Opera and our 'ld friend Netscape Naviagtor. :doh:

                            Yusuf May I help you?

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                              I tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                              Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7

                              A lot of the corporate world is running, and will remain running, on the oldest stable OS that supports their mission critical applications. We have a lot of clients who, dispite a lot of [cattle] proding and insentives, are not moving from XP. As develpers we cannot abandon them and so we need to remaain there. We are just now beginning to move dev onto Weven boxes, but builds and releases are staying XP for the forseable future.


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                                Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11

                                So does not support FF, Chrome, Safari, Opera and our 'ld friend Netscape Naviagtor. :doh:

                                Yusuf May I help you?

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                                Yusuf wrote:

                                So does not support [...] Netscape Naviagtor

                                #spits on hand# Bets? ;)


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                                  There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.

                                  Christopher Duncan
                                  www.PracticalUSA.com
                                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  IE9 doesn't support XP.

                                  They cannot be arsed to work hard any more. Most programmers they've hired are programming is because its where the money is. Gone are the days when all nighters were the norm and you actually cared about what you worked on. Now it is just a bunch of copy-paste artists making a living, working 9-5, wearing suits and tie and not giving a f*** about the software they are working on. Caring about the software has gone out of fashion and out of style. You are not longer supposed to be passionate about your work. You are expected to be just a drone putting sentences together and making someone money. I just had a "meeting" with some managers. All they asked is "write more code, care less about the quality", although I care less about their lifestyle than they think I do. I will continue to care about the stuff I write, release only the code that I personally believe has quality.

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                                  I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box

                                  Please include a flywheel from a Ford truck.

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                    by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.

                                    How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?

                                    Yusuf May I help you?

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                                    Yusuf wrote:

                                    How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?

                                    If he is happy with XP, then he should be happy with the IE7/8 or whatever he using. You don't waste too much resources on making IE9 work for that little guy where the likelihood is that the little guy will not care about it in the first place.

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                                      Didn't you hear? XP is dead. It has less than 65% of the worldwide market share. ;P In all seriousness, I don't mind this. In spite of everyone's opinion (most of whom never used it) Vista wasn't terrible from SP1 on. I upgraded to Win7 before launch and for the one, single XP-centric app that won't run on Win7, I use the built in XP virtual machine. It's better for window & document management, file searching, security, new hardware support, installation, trouble shooting, finding what you need, taskbar implmentation, boot time and networking. And eye candy. I would rather MS be putting their efforts into THAT instead of a 10 year old OS with roots in the 16bit world. Shoot...I guess they got whatever they're drinking into my water supply :laugh:

                                      They Call me Mister James

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                                      Exactly my thoughts, you saved me some writing with your post. Also until all major browsers get full HTML5 support the XP will be 12-15 years old. So if I have to choose between creating shining and fast browser which is using the mew graphic technologies and a mediocre one just to support 15 years old OS I’ll choose the former.

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                                        Didn't you hear? XP is dead. It has less than 65% of the worldwide market share. ;P In all seriousness, I don't mind this. In spite of everyone's opinion (most of whom never used it) Vista wasn't terrible from SP1 on. I upgraded to Win7 before launch and for the one, single XP-centric app that won't run on Win7, I use the built in XP virtual machine. It's better for window & document management, file searching, security, new hardware support, installation, trouble shooting, finding what you need, taskbar implmentation, boot time and networking. And eye candy. I would rather MS be putting their efforts into THAT instead of a 10 year old OS with roots in the 16bit world. Shoot...I guess they got whatever they're drinking into my water supply :laugh:

                                        They Call me Mister James

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                                        TheyCallMeMrJames wrote:

                                        new hardware support

                                        Then explain why W7 does not properly detect my 2 year old (aka new) screen whereas XP does.

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                                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                          IE9 doesn't support XP.

                                          They cannot be arsed to work hard any more. Most programmers they've hired are programming is because its where the money is. Gone are the days when all nighters were the norm and you actually cared about what you worked on. Now it is just a bunch of copy-paste artists making a living, working 9-5, wearing suits and tie and not giving a f*** about the software they are working on. Caring about the software has gone out of fashion and out of style. You are not longer supposed to be passionate about your work. You are expected to be just a drone putting sentences together and making someone money. I just had a "meeting" with some managers. All they asked is "write more code, care less about the quality", although I care less about their lifestyle than they think I do. I will continue to care about the stuff I write, release only the code that I personally believe has quality.

                                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                          I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box

                                          Please include a flywheel from a Ford truck.

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                                          Mechanical wrote:

                                          Gone are the days when all nighters were the norm and you actually cared about what you worked on. Now it is just a bunch of copy-paste artists making a living, working 9-5, wearing suits and tie and not giving a f*** about the software they are working on. Caring about the software has gone out of fashion and out of style.

                                          Hey, don't generalize too much... I may not ENJOY what I do like I used to, but I still care a great deal about the code I write. Sure, sometimes I'm forced to write crap because of unreasonable or backward requirements, but I make serious effort to minimize that as much as possible.

                                          Mechanical wrote:

                                          You are not longer supposed to be passionate about your work. You are expected to be just a drone putting sentences together and making someone money.

                                          Who cares about the work? Be passionate about your creations. Everything you create is a part of you, and everything you create reflects on you. Granted, if you're just one person on a large team, mindlessly filling in the blanks in a detailed spec document ("You write a function that parses X and Y and returns Z, then he'll make the one that turns Z into..."), I can see how it'd be pretty hard to care about it... I'm a solo developer, so I wrap my tendrils around the whole thing at once.

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