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There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesChristopher Duncan wrote:
I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box.
What did that poor pizza box ever do to you? :confused:
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There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesI tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
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There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesChristopher Duncan wrote:
They simply tell users to buy a faster box.
They said "we increased the security of the browser by only running it on a secure OS" which is lame enough already, but Vista boxes aren't faster than XP boxes. For example, I have a nice XP x64 box here with 8GB ram, a 3.3GHz quad core (10% OCed) and a GTX260. About a meter to the right of me stands an old Vista box with 512MB ram, a 2.03GHz single core (slightly OCed) and a 6600LE - which can barely even run Vista, let alone any actual programs. (so much for "Vista Capable") It also has XP installed (and it can actually run programs when started in XP), but still.
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There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesChristopher Duncan wrote:
As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does.
Yes, but IE8 does support XP, just stuck with this one. IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11 as well, but nobody complains about that.
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I tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
Not every corporation will have moved to Windows 7, where I work we are missing out Vista but its looking like mid 2011 before we can move to Windows 7 all because we need to test some severe legacy systems and how it works in Windows 7
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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I tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?
Yusuf May I help you?
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There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesDidn't you hear? XP is dead. It has less than 65% of the worldwide market share. ;P In all seriousness, I don't mind this. In spite of everyone's opinion (most of whom never used it) Vista wasn't terrible from SP1 on. I upgraded to Win7 before launch and for the one, single XP-centric app that won't run on Win7, I use the built in XP virtual machine. It's better for window & document management, file searching, security, new hardware support, installation, trouble shooting, finding what you need, taskbar implmentation, boot time and networking. And eye candy. I would rather MS be putting their efforts into THAT instead of a 10 year old OS with roots in the 16bit world. Shoot...I guess they got whatever they're drinking into my water supply :laugh:
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?
Yusuf May I help you?
Cling to it with your bare fists and embrace IE8!
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does.
Yes, but IE8 does support XP, just stuck with this one. IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11 as well, but nobody complains about that.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11
So does not support FF, Chrome, Safari, Opera and our 'ld friend Netscape Naviagtor. :doh:
Yusuf May I help you?
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I tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7
A lot of the corporate world is running, and will remain running, on the oldest stable OS that supports their mission critical applications. We have a lot of clients who, dispite a lot of [cattle] proding and insentives, are not moving from XP. As develpers we cannot abandon them and so we need to remaain there. We are just now beginning to move dev onto Weven boxes, but builds and releases are staying XP for the forseable future.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11
So does not support FF, Chrome, Safari, Opera and our 'ld friend Netscape Naviagtor. :doh:
Yusuf May I help you?
Yusuf wrote:
So does not support [...] Netscape Naviagtor
#spits on hand# Bets? ;)
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
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There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesChristopher Duncan wrote:
IE9 doesn't support XP.
They cannot be arsed to work hard any more. Most programmers they've hired are programming is because its where the money is. Gone are the days when all nighters were the norm and you actually cared about what you worked on. Now it is just a bunch of copy-paste artists making a living, working 9-5, wearing suits and tie and not giving a f*** about the software they are working on. Caring about the software has gone out of fashion and out of style. You are not longer supposed to be passionate about your work. You are expected to be just a drone putting sentences together and making someone money. I just had a "meeting" with some managers. All they asked is "write more code, care less about the quality", although I care less about their lifestyle than they think I do. I will continue to care about the stuff I write, release only the code that I personally believe has quality.
Christopher Duncan wrote:
I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box
Please include a flywheel from a Ford truck.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?
Yusuf May I help you?
Yusuf wrote:
How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?
If he is happy with XP, then he should be happy with the IE7/8 or whatever he using. You don't waste too much resources on making IE9 work for that little guy where the likelihood is that the little guy will not care about it in the first place.
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Didn't you hear? XP is dead. It has less than 65% of the worldwide market share. ;P In all seriousness, I don't mind this. In spite of everyone's opinion (most of whom never used it) Vista wasn't terrible from SP1 on. I upgraded to Win7 before launch and for the one, single XP-centric app that won't run on Win7, I use the built in XP virtual machine. It's better for window & document management, file searching, security, new hardware support, installation, trouble shooting, finding what you need, taskbar implmentation, boot time and networking. And eye candy. I would rather MS be putting their efforts into THAT instead of a 10 year old OS with roots in the 16bit world. Shoot...I guess they got whatever they're drinking into my water supply :laugh:
Exactly my thoughts, you saved me some writing with your post. Also until all major browsers get full HTML5 support the XP will be 12-15 years old. So if I have to choose between creating shining and fast browser which is using the mew graphic technologies and a mediocre one just to support 15 years old OS I’ll choose the former.
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Didn't you hear? XP is dead. It has less than 65% of the worldwide market share. ;P In all seriousness, I don't mind this. In spite of everyone's opinion (most of whom never used it) Vista wasn't terrible from SP1 on. I upgraded to Win7 before launch and for the one, single XP-centric app that won't run on Win7, I use the built in XP virtual machine. It's better for window & document management, file searching, security, new hardware support, installation, trouble shooting, finding what you need, taskbar implmentation, boot time and networking. And eye candy. I would rather MS be putting their efforts into THAT instead of a 10 year old OS with roots in the 16bit world. Shoot...I guess they got whatever they're drinking into my water supply :laugh:
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
IE9 doesn't support XP.
They cannot be arsed to work hard any more. Most programmers they've hired are programming is because its where the money is. Gone are the days when all nighters were the norm and you actually cared about what you worked on. Now it is just a bunch of copy-paste artists making a living, working 9-5, wearing suits and tie and not giving a f*** about the software they are working on. Caring about the software has gone out of fashion and out of style. You are not longer supposed to be passionate about your work. You are expected to be just a drone putting sentences together and making someone money. I just had a "meeting" with some managers. All they asked is "write more code, care less about the quality", although I care less about their lifestyle than they think I do. I will continue to care about the stuff I write, release only the code that I personally believe has quality.
Christopher Duncan wrote:
I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box
Please include a flywheel from a Ford truck.
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Mechanical wrote:
Gone are the days when all nighters were the norm and you actually cared about what you worked on. Now it is just a bunch of copy-paste artists making a living, working 9-5, wearing suits and tie and not giving a f*** about the software they are working on. Caring about the software has gone out of fashion and out of style.
Hey, don't generalize too much... I may not ENJOY what I do like I used to, but I still care a great deal about the code I write. Sure, sometimes I'm forced to write crap because of unreasonable or backward requirements, but I make serious effort to minimize that as much as possible.
Mechanical wrote:
You are not longer supposed to be passionate about your work. You are expected to be just a drone putting sentences together and making someone money.
Who cares about the work? Be passionate about your creations. Everything you create is a part of you, and everything you create reflects on you. Granted, if you're just one person on a large team, mindlessly filling in the blanks in a detailed spec document ("You write a function that parses X and Y and returns Z, then he'll make the one that turns Z into..."), I can see how it'd be pretty hard to care about it... I'm a solo developer, so I wrap my tendrils around the whole thing at once.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Mechanical wrote:
Gone are the days when all nighters were the norm and you actually cared about what you worked on. Now it is just a bunch of copy-paste artists making a living, working 9-5, wearing suits and tie and not giving a f*** about the software they are working on. Caring about the software has gone out of fashion and out of style.
Hey, don't generalize too much... I may not ENJOY what I do like I used to, but I still care a great deal about the code I write. Sure, sometimes I'm forced to write crap because of unreasonable or backward requirements, but I make serious effort to minimize that as much as possible.
Mechanical wrote:
You are not longer supposed to be passionate about your work. You are expected to be just a drone putting sentences together and making someone money.
Who cares about the work? Be passionate about your creations. Everything you create is a part of you, and everything you create reflects on you. Granted, if you're just one person on a large team, mindlessly filling in the blanks in a detailed spec document ("You write a function that parses X and Y and returns Z, then he'll make the one that turns Z into..."), I can see how it'd be pretty hard to care about it... I'm a solo developer, so I wrap my tendrils around the whole thing at once.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
I still care a great deal about the code I write
Welcome to the 'Olde Farts'! We need all the memebers we can find. [And if you know where my slippers are, it'd ber a great help.]
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
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TheyCallMeMrJames wrote:
new hardware support
Then explain why W7 does not properly detect my 2 year old (aka new) screen whereas XP does.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess, driver issue? What's the brand? I'd check with the vendor. For the most part, this is one of the areas of improvement: only signed, bit-version-specific drivers will install on their own. It's less "plug-and-pray" and more "click-and-plug-and-play" when you run into the unsigned ones, but after that it's fine. I have a USB video adapter that I had to get the drivers from the manufacturer's web site until about two months ago. When they released the signed drivers, they installed through Windows Update and it works a treat. Edit to say: in re-reading I saw you had 'monitor' there. I'll concede that a monitor should not require drivers. However, I'd still be interested to know your brand/model.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
I still care a great deal about the code I write
Welcome to the 'Olde Farts'! We need all the memebers we can find. [And if you know where my slippers are, it'd ber a great help.]
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
Man, I'm not old enough to be an Olde Fart... I turn 30 in a couple months... Actually, I guess in computer geek terms, that's pretty old. Oh well, I'm #%&*(ed.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess, driver issue? What's the brand? I'd check with the vendor. For the most part, this is one of the areas of improvement: only signed, bit-version-specific drivers will install on their own. It's less "plug-and-pray" and more "click-and-plug-and-play" when you run into the unsigned ones, but after that it's fine. I have a USB video adapter that I had to get the drivers from the manufacturer's web site until about two months ago. When they released the signed drivers, they installed through Windows Update and it works a treat. Edit to say: in re-reading I saw you had 'monitor' there. I'll concede that a monitor should not require drivers. However, I'd still be interested to know your brand/model.
It's a Belinea something or other. XP detects it as "just some plug and play thing" and then correctly lists the display modes, W7 detects it as "just some plug and play thing" but then lists less than half of the supported display modes, specifically excluding the best one. Even nvidia's "manual display mode override" thingy doesn't work.