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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    You can't get rid of capitalism, however when you try to make a society socialist or facist capitalism is taken to the extreme using draconian laws instead of free-market principles.

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    Exactly how is this a "draconian law?" He didn't pay for his fire protection service, so they didn't put out the fire.

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      Exactly how is this a "draconian law?" He didn't pay for his fire protection service, so they didn't put out the fire.

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      Ian Shlasko wrote:

      Exactly how is this a "draconian law?" He didn't pay for his fire protection service, so they didn't put out the fire.

      That's exactly that.

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        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        Exactly how is this a "draconian law?" He didn't pay for his fire protection service, so they didn't put out the fire.

        That's exactly that.

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        That's called, "You don't pay your bill, you don't get any service." If the gas company cut you off for not paying, would that be draconian?

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          That's called, "You don't pay your bill, you don't get any service." If the gas company cut you off for not paying, would that be draconian?

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          He pays property taxes, income taxes, sales taxes, perhaps business related taxes, state and city fees, and all that shit. He is taxed enough already and since he didn't pay his mafia protection fee his house burned down.

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            He pays property taxes, income taxes, sales taxes, perhaps business related taxes, state and city fees, and all that shit. He is taxed enough already and since he didn't pay his mafia protection fee his house burned down.

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            If his "fire protection" is a separate fee, that means his taxes are reduced by the amount that would normally go to the fire department.

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              If his "fire protection" is a separate fee, that means his taxes are reduced by the amount that would normally go to the fire department.

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              No it doesn't.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                No it doesn't.

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                Proof?

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                • I Ian Shlasko

                  Proof?

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                  No, you are the one with the burden of requiring proof, hard evidence that his city cut his taxes as a result of instating the fee.

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                    No, you are the one with the burden of requiring proof, hard evidence that his city cut his taxes as a result of instating the fee.

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                    Seems pretty logical that his taxes would be higher if the city was providing fire protection without an extra fee. If you think they're double-charging, let's see some evidence. Right now, they're providing fire protection as an optional service... That's closer to free-market, not further from it. You should be cheering this on, kiddo. But that's ok... We know you're too drugged up and infested to think straight... It's not your fault.

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                    • I Ian Shlasko

                      Seems pretty logical that his taxes would be higher if the city was providing fire protection without an extra fee. If you think they're double-charging, let's see some evidence. Right now, they're providing fire protection as an optional service... That's closer to free-market, not further from it. You should be cheering this on, kiddo. But that's ok... We know you're too drugged up and infested to think straight... It's not your fault.

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                      Give me the proof you little slimy worm.

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                        Give me the proof you little slimy worm.

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                        You're the one criticizing the system, kiddo.

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