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First off, I've just uninstalled it. Why? Well as soon as I installed it, it was flaky, crashed frequently, worse VS2008 and VS2010 exhibited the same symptoms whilst prior to this they had both been rock solid. Admittedly the system I installed it on is old and creaky, it creaks running MineSweeper, but it didn't used to crash. Too soon to decide if uninstalling has cured my VS problems. What's my overall impression? Good points: UI can be modified whilst running in debug mode. (see bad points, though) The default UI is a reasonable design Appearance and functionally. (It is Tabs based.) It really does simplify and speed up the creation of simple data dependent apps. Bad Points: Unstable (on my system at least) Current options for UI mods too restrictive, mostly just two options. e.g. DataGrid or ListBox. The main UI and any data-entry type forms appear to be generated dynamically, nothing wrong with this but it means that hacking the layout/design is soooo much more difficult than it needs to be. Overall: Would I recommend it? Not in this iteration of the Beta, no. Will I look at it again? Yes, I think I might. The idea has possibilities.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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First off, I've just uninstalled it. Why? Well as soon as I installed it, it was flaky, crashed frequently, worse VS2008 and VS2010 exhibited the same symptoms whilst prior to this they had both been rock solid. Admittedly the system I installed it on is old and creaky, it creaks running MineSweeper, but it didn't used to crash. Too soon to decide if uninstalling has cured my VS problems. What's my overall impression? Good points: UI can be modified whilst running in debug mode. (see bad points, though) The default UI is a reasonable design Appearance and functionally. (It is Tabs based.) It really does simplify and speed up the creation of simple data dependent apps. Bad Points: Unstable (on my system at least) Current options for UI mods too restrictive, mostly just two options. e.g. DataGrid or ListBox. The main UI and any data-entry type forms appear to be generated dynamically, nothing wrong with this but it means that hacking the layout/design is soooo much more difficult than it needs to be. Overall: Would I recommend it? Not in this iteration of the Beta, no. Will I look at it again? Yes, I think I might. The idea has possibilities.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Just finsished installing it. No crash for me(Wewen 64). But as you can tell I can't have a proper ideea of the product from a 5 minute quick project. It's easy. Too easy I'm afraid, to create a data app. Personally I think it will have a huge success especially on corporate/enterprise enviroments. The "Power Useres" could easily create the apps they need. And from what I've heard it will integrate very well with Exchange Server. If they(MS) get it right, it will be very succesfull at least in the corporate/enterprise enviroments. Time will tell...
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Just finsished installing it. No crash for me(Wewen 64). But as you can tell I can't have a proper ideea of the product from a 5 minute quick project. It's easy. Too easy I'm afraid, to create a data app. Personally I think it will have a huge success especially on corporate/enterprise enviroments. The "Power Useres" could easily create the apps they need. And from what I've heard it will integrate very well with Exchange Server. If they(MS) get it right, it will be very succesfull at least in the corporate/enterprise enviroments. Time will tell...
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MDL=>Moshu wrote:
The "Power Useres" could easily create the apps they need
I smell VB all over again :sigh:
Two heads are better than one.
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Just finsished installing it. No crash for me(Wewen 64). But as you can tell I can't have a proper ideea of the product from a 5 minute quick project. It's easy. Too easy I'm afraid, to create a data app. Personally I think it will have a huge success especially on corporate/enterprise enviroments. The "Power Useres" could easily create the apps they need. And from what I've heard it will integrate very well with Exchange Server. If they(MS) get it right, it will be very succesfull at least in the corporate/enterprise enviroments. Time will tell...
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MDL=>Moshu wrote:
going to get bussy now
or carry? or trainy? :-D
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MDL=>Moshu wrote:
going to get bussy now
or carry? or trainy? :-D
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MDL=>Moshu wrote:
going to get bussy now
or carry? or trainy? :-D
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I wonder if that's a bendy bussy?
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I wonder if that's a bendy bussy?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
rumor has it they can be quite aggressive. :)
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I wonder if that's a bendy bussy?
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rumor has it they can be quite aggressive. :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
rumor has it they can be quite aggressive.
So what, I'm part of a dissapearing and bussy species now? :-D
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read this[^] if you haven't already. :)
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read this[^] if you haven't already. :)
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Now I'm gonna get sleepy. So stop wondering. You never know where you might end up. :)
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you'd better turn the light switch off then. :)
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Norm .net wrote:
I smell VB all over again
Yeah, most likely. VB or C#. Power users would go for VB I'm quite sure.
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First off, I've just uninstalled it. Why? Well as soon as I installed it, it was flaky, crashed frequently, worse VS2008 and VS2010 exhibited the same symptoms whilst prior to this they had both been rock solid. Admittedly the system I installed it on is old and creaky, it creaks running MineSweeper, but it didn't used to crash. Too soon to decide if uninstalling has cured my VS problems. What's my overall impression? Good points: UI can be modified whilst running in debug mode. (see bad points, though) The default UI is a reasonable design Appearance and functionally. (It is Tabs based.) It really does simplify and speed up the creation of simple data dependent apps. Bad Points: Unstable (on my system at least) Current options for UI mods too restrictive, mostly just two options. e.g. DataGrid or ListBox. The main UI and any data-entry type forms appear to be generated dynamically, nothing wrong with this but it means that hacking the layout/design is soooo much more difficult than it needs to be. Overall: Would I recommend it? Not in this iteration of the Beta, no. Will I look at it again? Yes, I think I might. The idea has possibilities.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
i have been running it for a little over a month... with little to no problems. you do have to have SQL2008 express installed as your Default Named Instance(the "SQLEXPRESS" instance), and there is an update to the windows 4 API (if you are running XP) that is a good install. my machine is a very old Dell Dimension 4600 and it performs beautifully, although if slow, on it. i have noticed that is has a good chance to stay broken, if you have an error. mostly just annoying, you can save and re-open the project and that will fix it(at worst case). also, can you change the settings and config files for the actual project template, which gives you all the rope you need to hang your self(think of editing the MSBuild files with a sledgehammer). not a good situation. i am waiting for the extensibility points to opened up to all of us though. in it current state it is really nothing more than a toy for the layman. all and all it has been a pretty good experience, far better than the VS2008 beta was in the past.
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i have been running it for a little over a month... with little to no problems. you do have to have SQL2008 express installed as your Default Named Instance(the "SQLEXPRESS" instance), and there is an update to the windows 4 API (if you are running XP) that is a good install. my machine is a very old Dell Dimension 4600 and it performs beautifully, although if slow, on it. i have noticed that is has a good chance to stay broken, if you have an error. mostly just annoying, you can save and re-open the project and that will fix it(at worst case). also, can you change the settings and config files for the actual project template, which gives you all the rope you need to hang your self(think of editing the MSBuild files with a sledgehammer). not a good situation. i am waiting for the extensibility points to opened up to all of us though. in it current state it is really nothing more than a toy for the layman. all and all it has been a pretty good experience, far better than the VS2008 beta was in the past.
Magnetomage wrote:
i am waiting for the extensibility points to opened up to all of us though. in it current state it is really nothing more than a toy for the layman.
I'm looking forward to looking at what the next iteration provides too.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”