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    Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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      Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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      What about the XBOX games and Office? Are they any good?

      I are n00b.

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        Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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        Nish Nishant
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        Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

        yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support).

        No 3G? :wtf:

        Regards, Nish


        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Code Project Forums : New Posts Monitor This application monitors for new posts in the Code Project forums.

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        • L lepipele

          Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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          How did you get ten phone before the official launch?

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          • L lepipele

            Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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            Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

            To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone.

            The beat goes on... ;P

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              How did you get ten phone before the official launch?

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              Developers! Developers! DEVELOPERSSSSS! ... Dammit - http://developer.windowsphone.com/windows-phone-7/ - doesn't work ... developers?

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                Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support).

                No 3G? :wtf:

                Regards, Nish


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                Yeah... the funny thing is - it seems they are trying to copy iPhone even on bad things ;) - remember how iPhone didn't have 3G and copy/paste when initially released?

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                  Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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                  Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                  That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox.

                  Congrats

                  Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                  exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter Wink .

                  As you said HTC is only one providing TouchFlow (custom home screen). I have N1 (HTC make), an android device. N1 comes with plain android; no glossiness, touch-ups, etc. As you know, N1 is hackable that you can install custom android and I did that too. I install CM6 which is so famous in Custom Android. But I reverted back as I like the plain Android. It is up you, how you like. I am not sure whether is customizable in WM7. I am sure HTC also going to give the same version. I heard that the architectural design of WM7 is changes. I recommend you to check the existing functionality with WM6. Performance is another item to check.

                  Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                  WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support

                  You will get it soon. Its a baby now. Give some time. But LG, do you think it is good idea to buy LG hardware?

                  Venkatesh Mookkan (My: Website | Yahoo Group | Blog Spot | Follow me @ Twitter)

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                  • L lepipele

                    Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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                    Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                    they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G

                    The lack of copy/paste is weird but I don't know how you came to the conclusion that 3G is not supported as this is more a hardware function and both the LG Panther (GW910) and HTC Mozart both support 3G it is even mention on the WP7 what do the icons mean[^] page. I used to have an LG that would frequently not realise it had access to a 3G network and would drop back to the GSM connection so it could be that you have an LG phone that is the problem.

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                    • L lepipele

                      Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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                      Yeah, the featureset pretty much made up my mind that I would not be getting a WP7 phone, at least till it has progressed quite a bit.

                      • No tethering (I am making this post via a tethered conn with my Touch Pro 2 - gives me internet wherever I go)
                      • No copy and paste (how are you supposed to get any serious work done without it?)
                      • No true multitasking (which means for example you can't do anything else while using VOIP or listening to internet radio without the call or music stopping)
                      • No 3rd-party TCP connections (which means no 3rd-party VOIP at all, no custom streaming/dedicated conns, etc)
                      • No interchangeable removable storage (Yes, you can get the storage upgraded but you lose data)
                      • Very little UI customization (Don't like the plain UI? Tough luck)
                      • Can't change the default browser, search, etc
                      • No IPC, Bluetooth, gyroscope/accelerometer, or video capture support, etc available to 3rd parties - only to Microsoft's chosen few

                      I know some of these are planned for the future, but there are many we have no indication of any plans for.

                      modified on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:55 PM

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                      • S SinghUlarity

                        What about the XBOX games and Office? Are they any good?

                        I are n00b.

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                        lepipele
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                        Office looks OK - experience is kinda same as on WM6... the only new thingy I've saw is that you can open documents directly from SharePoint 2010 instance. As for XBOX Games - I can't manage to setup my account to access XBOX live. There aren't any games that come with the phone by default ;(

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                          Yeah, the featureset pretty much made up my mind that I would not be getting a WP7 phone, at least till it has progressed quite a bit.

                          • No tethering (I am making this post via a tethered conn with my Touch Pro 2 - gives me internet wherever I go)
                          • No copy and paste (how are you supposed to get any serious work done without it?)
                          • No true multitasking (which means for example you can't do anything else while using VOIP or listening to internet radio without the call or music stopping)
                          • No 3rd-party TCP connections (which means no 3rd-party VOIP at all, no custom streaming/dedicated conns, etc)
                          • No interchangeable removable storage (Yes, you can get the storage upgraded but you lose data)
                          • Very little UI customization (Don't like the plain UI? Tough luck)
                          • Can't change the default browser, search, etc
                          • No IPC, Bluetooth, gyroscope/accelerometer, or video capture support, etc available to 3rd parties - only to Microsoft's chosen few

                          I know some of these are planned for the future, but there are many we have no indication of any plans for.

                          modified on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:55 PM

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                          lepipele
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                          Yeah, you've summed it up really good...

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                          • V Venkatesh Mookkan

                            Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                            That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox.

                            Congrats

                            Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                            exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter Wink .

                            As you said HTC is only one providing TouchFlow (custom home screen). I have N1 (HTC make), an android device. N1 comes with plain android; no glossiness, touch-ups, etc. As you know, N1 is hackable that you can install custom android and I did that too. I install CM6 which is so famous in Custom Android. But I reverted back as I like the plain Android. It is up you, how you like. I am not sure whether is customizable in WM7. I am sure HTC also going to give the same version. I heard that the architectural design of WM7 is changes. I recommend you to check the existing functionality with WM6. Performance is another item to check.

                            Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                            WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support

                            You will get it soon. Its a baby now. Give some time. But LG, do you think it is good idea to buy LG hardware?

                            Venkatesh Mookkan (My: Website | Yahoo Group | Blog Spot | Follow me @ Twitter)

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                            lepipele
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                            Dunlap has kinda already answered what you are saying - http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3631166/Re-Just-got-WM7-phone-modified.aspx Microsoft declared that they won't give manufacturers an option to customize UI (which is, if you ask me - really bad decisions - no point in copying Apple in everything). As for if it is good idea to buy LG hardware - I haven't bought phone, I got it from Microsoft; haven't had much choice ;)

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                              Dunlap has kinda already answered what you are saying - http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3631166/Re-Just-got-WM7-phone-modified.aspx Microsoft declared that they won't give manufacturers an option to customize UI (which is, if you ask me - really bad decisions - no point in copying Apple in everything). As for if it is good idea to buy LG hardware - I haven't bought phone, I got it from Microsoft; haven't had much choice ;)

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                              Venkatesh Mookkan
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                              Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                              Dunlap has kinda already answered what you are saying

                              Sorry, I haven't noticed that.

                              Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                              Microsoft declared that they won't give manufacturers an option to customize UI (which is, if you ask me - really bad decisions - no point in copying Apple in everything).

                              Even Android is going to do the same in the Next version (rumors says that).

                              Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                              I haven't bought phone, I got it from Microsoft; haven't had much choice

                              :thumbsup:

                              Venkatesh Mookkan (My: Website | Yahoo Group | Blog Spot | Follow me @ Twitter)

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                                Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                                they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G

                                The lack of copy/paste is weird but I don't know how you came to the conclusion that 3G is not supported as this is more a hardware function and both the LG Panther (GW910) and HTC Mozart both support 3G it is even mention on the WP7 what do the icons mean[^] page. I used to have an LG that would frequently not realise it had access to a 3G network and would drop back to the GSM connection so it could be that you have an LG phone that is the problem.

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                                lepipele
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                                http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/16/microsoft-windows-phone-7-to-be-gsm-only-until-first-half-of-20/

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                                • V Venkatesh Mookkan

                                  Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                                  Dunlap has kinda already answered what you are saying

                                  Sorry, I haven't noticed that.

                                  Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                                  Microsoft declared that they won't give manufacturers an option to customize UI (which is, if you ask me - really bad decisions - no point in copying Apple in everything).

                                  Even Android is going to do the same in the Next version (rumors says that).

                                  Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                                  I haven't bought phone, I got it from Microsoft; haven't had much choice

                                  :thumbsup:

                                  Venkatesh Mookkan (My: Website | Yahoo Group | Blog Spot | Follow me @ Twitter)

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                                  lepipele
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                                  Heh... I'm not buying the rumor that Google will force manufacturers into not customizing Android UI. For Apple it made sense 'cause they are only hardware manufacturers, but for Microsoft & Google, who work with tons of companies... there is no point of having 100 phone models, all with same UI.

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                                  • L lepipele

                                    Heh... I'm not buying the rumor that Google will force manufacturers into not customizing Android UI. For Apple it made sense 'cause they are only hardware manufacturers, but for Microsoft & Google, who work with tons of companies... there is no point of having 100 phone models, all with same UI.

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                                    Venkatesh Mookkan
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                                    Predrag Tomasevic wrote:

                                    I'm not buying the rumor that Google will force manufacturers into not customizing Android UI

                                    Do you heard about that Gingerbread version is targeting with UI Customization and Video calling? I read it on some Android forums. Anyways this is off topic. Play with the WP7 and give your final feedback. May be as another article. I am glad that I talked to you. :)

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                                    • L lepipele

                                      http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/16/microsoft-windows-phone-7-to-be-gsm-only-until-first-half-of-20/

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                                      Windows Phone 7 debuts on the Telstra Next G™ network[^] Like I said what network it can access is down to the phone hardware more than anything so maybe it really comes down to WP7 phones on Verizon are stuck on GSM.

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                                        Yeah, the featureset pretty much made up my mind that I would not be getting a WP7 phone, at least till it has progressed quite a bit.

                                        • No tethering (I am making this post via a tethered conn with my Touch Pro 2 - gives me internet wherever I go)
                                        • No copy and paste (how are you supposed to get any serious work done without it?)
                                        • No true multitasking (which means for example you can't do anything else while using VOIP or listening to internet radio without the call or music stopping)
                                        • No 3rd-party TCP connections (which means no 3rd-party VOIP at all, no custom streaming/dedicated conns, etc)
                                        • No interchangeable removable storage (Yes, you can get the storage upgraded but you lose data)
                                        • Very little UI customization (Don't like the plain UI? Tough luck)
                                        • Can't change the default browser, search, etc
                                        • No IPC, Bluetooth, gyroscope/accelerometer, or video capture support, etc available to 3rd parties - only to Microsoft's chosen few

                                        I know some of these are planned for the future, but there are many we have no indication of any plans for.

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                                        No socket access is the biggest pain for me but on the bright side at least it will be a software update to enable access unlike WM6.x. For accelerometer access add a reference to Microsoft.Devices.Sensors this will then give access to the Accelerometer class.

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                                        • L lepipele

                                          Dunno how many of you guys read my article on different phone platforms ( Windows Mobile, iPhone, Android - Marketplace Comparison ) but as I made some predictions in it I was anxious to finally get my hands on WM 7 device. That finally happened today when LG GW910 arrived to my mailbox. First impression after playing with it for half an hour is - meh. Really, nothing special - nothing that will really excite you. To compare it to the old generation - I was way more excited when I got my first WM6 device... exploring HTC TouchFlow and spending almost whole day playing Teeter ;). What adds to the plain taste is UI, which to me feels more like a prototype than something destined for production. I understand striving for removing clutter (and I'm all for that), but to have rectangle + text for a button? Seriously guys? What is this, 1984? So far, the biggest thing I liked about the device is that it's way more responsive than previous generations. Transitions between menus are smooth, scrolling is kinda smooth, great job on that. To sum it up - I really don't think that Microsoft is going anywhere with Windows Mobile 7. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that WM7 is _bad_. What I am saying is that it doesn't bring up anything new to the table that will allow it to rival Android/iPhone. Simple question to Microsoft: WHY should any hardware manufacturer license WM7 ($40 per phone I believe) instead of Android ($0 per phone)? And, please note that at this point of time Android is far more advanced OS than WM7 (hell, at this point I would even say that WM6 has brighter future and more to offer than WM7 - Skype, copy/paste, 3G... yeah, you read it right, they are launching WM7 without copy/paste and 3G support). Would love to hear your thoughts on WM7 fellow CPians ;). EDIT 1: I am glad to see that so many of you guys have positive expectations for WM7. And I wouldn't mind to be wrong on this one as it means that I could trade Eclipse back for Visual Studio ;) But I just don't see it happening as (again) - there is nothing that will "incentify" manufacturers to produce WM7 phones (licensing costs) and customers to buy them (go with our phone, and trust us - we'll later add support for feature you need and already have on o

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                                          There's only so much fun you can have with a phone, before it becomes "normal" and mundane. Any excitement I ever felt over them dried up with the third or fourth one. Now, it's just one more thing I've got to remember to put in my pocket. I doubt that any OS could inspire me to feel any excitement over a phone again.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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