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  • N Nish Nishant

    My biggest concern with add-ins and extensions for Visual Studio is how they somehow make the app a little slower and a tad more unstable. I do install some add-ins because the advantages they offer outweigh the loss in speed and stability. But the power tools, I'll probably skip - even though that searchable references dialog looks very enticing.

    Regards, Nish


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    Not to mention the chaos that ensues if MS ever releases a service pack for VS...

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      I agree - they do make VS2010 a little slower. Their solution navigator (with the search) is very neat and the best feature. BTW, who can complain about colored file tabs (based on the project the file belongs too). :)

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      Dan Neely
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      Abhinav S wrote:

      BTW, who can complain about colored file tabs (based on the project the file belongs too).

      Me. When a project needs to be reloaded after Tortise changes it* and I reopen files in it they show up in a different color/different location. Otherwise the vertical tabstrip is pure win. * I use Tortise for gets because Ank automatically closes the update window when it's done so I don't know what changed, and can't easily do diffs to see what my coworkers are up to.

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      • A Abhinav S

        Dont know if anything about this[^] was ever posted here. But some of these Productivity Power tools are nice. I just discovered them now (thanks to Venkatesh Mookkan).

        The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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        Mike Hankey
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        Thanks I didn't get the PPT but got the snippet editor...nice!

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          Dont know if anything about this[^] was ever posted here. But some of these Productivity Power tools are nice. I just discovered them now (thanks to Venkatesh Mookkan).

          The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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          Here is an addin I really like and think is awesome, for 2008. Wordlight http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ad686131-47d4-4c13-ada2-5b1a9019fb6f[^] The guy even implemented my request for a feature.

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            Here is an addin I really like and think is awesome, for 2008. Wordlight http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ad686131-47d4-4c13-ada2-5b1a9019fb6f[^] The guy even implemented my request for a feature.

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            Dan Neely
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            Dunno if it's stock VS2k10 or part of the PPT, but I have something similar to that too. No option to save a highlight, but just leaving the cursor in a keyword is sufficient, no need to actively highlight.

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            • A Abhinav S

              Dont know if anything about this[^] was ever posted here. But some of these Productivity Power tools are nice. I just discovered them now (thanks to Venkatesh Mookkan).

              The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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              Rutvik Dave
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              I hate to re-post, but I have these[^] extensions installed. might be useful :)

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                Dunno if it's stock VS2k10 or part of the PPT, but I have something similar to that too. No option to save a highlight, but just leaving the cursor in a keyword is sufficient, no need to actively highlight.

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                I *think* I heard it is in 2010--don't use that yet. When talking to someone about code, it is a must have, and helps with coding tremendously when you copy and paste a section of code and have to change some identifiers--the highlighting shows where you made your mistake. Wordlight has a nice configuration menu, too.

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                  I hate to re-post, but I have these[^] extensions installed. might be useful :)

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                  Dan Neely
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                  What are you using as a spell checker? the only one I'm aware of is Redgate's whose free version is heavily nerfed to promote the one that costs $lots.

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                    What are you using as a spell checker? the only one I'm aware of is Redgate's whose free version is heavily nerfed to promote the one that costs $lots.

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                    Rutvik Dave
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                    This one[^], It is free and nice. It might not have lot of features, But it serves the purpose.

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                    • A Abhinav S

                      Dont know if anything about this[^] was ever posted here. But some of these Productivity Power tools are nice. I just discovered them now (thanks to Venkatesh Mookkan).

                      The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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                      Other than the whole thread about vs extensions last week? ;)


                      “If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        My biggest concern with add-ins and extensions for Visual Studio is how they somehow make the app a little slower and a tad more unstable. I do install some add-ins because the advantages they offer outweigh the loss in speed and stability. But the power tools, I'll probably skip - even though that searchable references dialog looks very enticing.

                        Regards, Nish


                        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Code Project Forums : New Posts Monitor This application monitors for new posts in the Code Project forums.

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                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        My biggest concern with add-ins and extensions for Visual Studio is how they somehow make the app a little slower and a tad more unstable.

                        By definition you should only get a performance impact from extensions that respond to events - those which are passive (i.e. completely command invoked) shouldn't affect it at all. The actual impact depends on that they do, which interfaces they use, how they are written and which language they're implemented in (like it or not, this is one of those areas where managed code carries an overhead you could well do without). Stability depends on the skill/competance of the developers (both of the extension and the IDE - extensions use internal interfaces MS don't test as thoroughly as the external UI, and which can break unpredictably between versions) and level of testing. The right mix for a given developer is a very personal thing - and for some "none" is almost certainly the right choice. I still can't understand how any VS developer can live without Visual Assist though. :rose:

                        Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          My biggest concern with add-ins and extensions for Visual Studio is how they somehow make the app a little slower and a tad more unstable.

                          By definition you should only get a performance impact from extensions that respond to events - those which are passive (i.e. completely command invoked) shouldn't affect it at all. The actual impact depends on that they do, which interfaces they use, how they are written and which language they're implemented in (like it or not, this is one of those areas where managed code carries an overhead you could well do without). Stability depends on the skill/competance of the developers (both of the extension and the IDE - extensions use internal interfaces MS don't test as thoroughly as the external UI, and which can break unpredictably between versions) and level of testing. The right mix for a given developer is a very personal thing - and for some "none" is almost certainly the right choice. I still can't understand how any VS developer can live without Visual Assist though. :rose:

                          Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                          I'm with you on the Visual Assist thing. Since I've been using it, I do so much less typing than I used to in order to get more coding done. ... And it works with C++ (my primary language) and not just C# and VB.

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                            I'm with you on the Visual Assist thing. Since I've been using it, I do so much less typing than I used to in order to get more coding done. ... And it works with C++ (my primary language) and not just C# and VB.

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                            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                            I'm still amazed there are developers (and particularly C++ developers) who don't use it. :omg: VSFileFinder, vs-build-timer, IncrediBuild and IncludeManager are the other ones I have loaded all of the time, along with ResOrg and Visual Lint when I'm not actively working on them (running and developing the same add-in at the same time is kinda messy!).

                            Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                              Dont know if anything about this[^] was ever posted here. But some of these Productivity Power tools are nice. I just discovered them now (thanks to Venkatesh Mookkan).

                              The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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                              I've found some of them to be very useful, but others of course not so much. The auto-complete for braces and quoates and such gets annoying sometimes.


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                              • A Abhinav S

                                Dont know if anything about this[^] was ever posted here. But some of these Productivity Power tools are nice. I just discovered them now (thanks to Venkatesh Mookkan).

                                The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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                                Kenneth Kasajian
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                                If they have an add-in that will start my IDE faster, I'm there.

                                ken@kasajian.com / www.kasajian.com

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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  My biggest concern with add-ins and extensions for Visual Studio is how they somehow make the app a little slower and a tad more unstable.

                                  By definition you should only get a performance impact from extensions that respond to events - those which are passive (i.e. completely command invoked) shouldn't affect it at all. The actual impact depends on that they do, which interfaces they use, how they are written and which language they're implemented in (like it or not, this is one of those areas where managed code carries an overhead you could well do without). Stability depends on the skill/competance of the developers (both of the extension and the IDE - extensions use internal interfaces MS don't test as thoroughly as the external UI, and which can break unpredictably between versions) and level of testing. The right mix for a given developer is a very personal thing - and for some "none" is almost certainly the right choice. I still can't understand how any VS developer can live without Visual Assist though. :rose:

                                  Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Too expensive to buy out of pocket and work won't....

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                                    Too expensive to buy out of pocket and work won't....

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                                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                    If they can't work out that sometimes spending a little capital (and let's face it, it ain't a lot) is worth it to increase the productivity of their key people, it doesn't sound like they are particularly astute at managing their business.

                                    Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                      If they can't work out that sometimes spending a little capital (and let's face it, it ain't a lot) is worth it to increase the productivity of their key people, it doesn't sound like they are particularly astute at managing their business.

                                      Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      Beancounter is an overly long four letter word. Edit, and so is Process. It's not standard software so IT won't buy it, and I'd need to start a process that would likely consume several hundred dollars of time to try and get it bought out of someone elses overhead budget. Having spent several months doing that to get a $60 ergonomic mouse (I'm a lefty and the only one on the market was a 10 button cordless mouse that someone kept balking at as being too expensive) I have no desire to waste my time on it again.

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                                      • A Abhinav S

                                        I agree - they do make VS2010 a little slower. Their solution navigator (with the search) is very neat and the best feature. BTW, who can complain about colored file tabs (based on the project the file belongs too). :)

                                        The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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                                        Abhinav S wrote:

                                        BTW, who can complain about colored file tabs (based on the project the file belongs too).

                                        The colored tabs are sweet. Does anyone know if they can be applied to SSMS? I recall the SSMS team saying something about their tabs were pulled from Visual Studio, and so they couldn't fix all the issues they have with them. Makes me wonder if there are some registry hacks somewhere to re-use the goodness.

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                                          Beancounter is an overly long four letter word. Edit, and so is Process. It's not standard software so IT won't buy it, and I'd need to start a process that would likely consume several hundred dollars of time to try and get it bought out of someone elses overhead budget. Having spent several months doing that to get a $60 ergonomic mouse (I'm a lefty and the only one on the market was a 10 button cordless mouse that someone kept balking at as being too expensive) I have no desire to waste my time on it again.

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                                          Stefan_Lang
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                                          It took me all of 5 minutes of demonstration to convince my coworkers and my boss to buy VisualAssist! Do get the trial, get used to it for a week, then uninstall it and see how much you miss it. It is worth every length of process you have to go through to get it. And, honestly, if I hadn't managed to convince my boss I would have strongly considered to buy it privately, just to make my work less tedious!

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