The neat thing about VS2010
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I love the Add Reference dialog box. Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008, but it is also possible to sort on component name, version, runtime and path. Both .Net and COM reference list is populated almost instantly.
The Starter wrote:
Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008,
I thought it was an utterly BS implementation, because while the dialog comes up, it's obviously running a background thread to populate it. Come on, MSFT, you could have cached the references as a background thread while I'm still futzing with creating projects, edit code, etc! The result was frustrating--I had to wait for the whole damn thing to load before I actually saw the reference I wanted. And it's utterly useless while it loads, because of course the scrollbar is changing size as more items get added and the whole damn list was bouncing around in my attempt to scroll while loading. WTF were they thinking? Marc
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It 'launches fast' because it shows you the dialog, then makes you wait for it to populate. I think it's slower overall, the other one just used to not show until it was ready for use. I think it needs a search, esp when the default sort is not by name and it's by something ( .NET version ? ) that causes it to seem like it's by name unless you notice that it's not scrolled far enough.
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Is there anything you like about VS2010? (I'm betting it's something most of us really hate - I'd rather wait for a visible dialog to populate than wonder if it's ever going to appear...)
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The Starter wrote:
Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008,
I thought it was an utterly BS implementation, because while the dialog comes up, it's obviously running a background thread to populate it. Come on, MSFT, you could have cached the references as a background thread while I'm still futzing with creating projects, edit code, etc! The result was frustrating--I had to wait for the whole damn thing to load before I actually saw the reference I wanted. And it's utterly useless while it loads, because of course the scrollbar is changing size as more items get added and the whole damn list was bouncing around in my attempt to scroll while loading. WTF were they thinking? Marc
I think it's an improvement. I don't like seeing an empty screen while I wait for a dialog to open. I like to see some immediate feedback to know things didn't hang and that I didn't click the wrong thing. Also, it allows me to switch to the proper tab without having to wait around for the COM tab to load if I accidentally click it. They might consider some further enhancements, such as disabling the list until it's fully loaded, but I don't think it's a step in the wrong direction.
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The Starter wrote:
Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008,
I thought it was an utterly BS implementation, because while the dialog comes up, it's obviously running a background thread to populate it. Come on, MSFT, you could have cached the references as a background thread while I'm still futzing with creating projects, edit code, etc! The result was frustrating--I had to wait for the whole damn thing to load before I actually saw the reference I wanted. And it's utterly useless while it loads, because of course the scrollbar is changing size as more items get added and the whole damn list was bouncing around in my attempt to scroll while loading. WTF were they thinking? Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Come on, MSFT, you could have cached the references as a background thread while I'm still futzing with creating projects, edit code, etc!
That would be annoying. I use the "add references" dialog maybe once every few weeks; why should VS decide to background-scan the registry (while also background-recompiling the Intellisense database with occasional breaks to background-load debug symbols) every day? The rest of the UI issues (bouncing list, sketchy scrolling) could have and should have been handled more effectively. But then again, it took them a decade to get around to the background loading thing - this little dialog just doesn't seem to have much priority...
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I think it's an improvement. I don't like seeing an empty screen while I wait for a dialog to open. I like to see some immediate feedback to know things didn't hang and that I didn't click the wrong thing. Also, it allows me to switch to the proper tab without having to wait around for the COM tab to load if I accidentally click it. They might consider some further enhancements, such as disabling the list until it's fully loaded, but I don't think it's a step in the wrong direction.
aspdotnetdev wrote:
I think it's an improvement.
I agree, but only from the feedback point of view. It does seem to take about the same time to become useable, it's just nice to know that it is doing something.
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aspdotnetdev wrote:
I think it's an improvement.
I agree, but only from the feedback point of view. It does seem to take about the same time to become useable, it's just nice to know that it is doing something.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
There is also the point that you can switch to the appropriate tab while things are loading. I remember hitting the wrong tab before and having to wait forever until I could navigate to the correct tab. That can save a little time.
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The Starter wrote:
Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008,
I thought it was an utterly BS implementation, because while the dialog comes up, it's obviously running a background thread to populate it. Come on, MSFT, you could have cached the references as a background thread while I'm still futzing with creating projects, edit code, etc! The result was frustrating--I had to wait for the whole damn thing to load before I actually saw the reference I wanted. And it's utterly useless while it loads, because of course the scrollbar is changing size as more items get added and the whole damn list was bouncing around in my attempt to scroll while loading. WTF were they thinking? Marc
But for those of us with A.A.A.D.D.[^] getting something up quick to keep our attention from wandering is a good thing. :)
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I love the Add Reference dialog box. Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008, but it is also possible to sort on component name, version, runtime and path. Both .Net and COM reference list is populated almost instantly.
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It 'launches fast' because it shows you the dialog, then makes you wait for it to populate. I think it's slower overall, the other one just used to not show until it was ready for use. I think it needs a search, esp when the default sort is not by name and it's by something ( .NET version ? ) that causes it to seem like it's by name unless you notice that it's not scrolled far enough.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
What about the search assemblies box in the top right? Is that not a search?
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Is there anything you like about VS2010? (I'm betting it's something most of us really hate - I'd rather wait for a visible dialog to populate than wonder if it's ever going to appear...)
The slow load times allow him to look at porn while he waits.
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The slow load times allow him to look at porn while he waits.
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I love the Add Reference dialog box. Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008, but it is also possible to sort on component name, version, runtime and path. Both .Net and COM reference list is populated almost instantly.
This[^] makes it even better :)
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It 'launches fast' because it shows you the dialog, then makes you wait for it to populate. I think it's slower overall, the other one just used to not show until it was ready for use. I think it needs a search, esp when the default sort is not by name and it's by something ( .NET version ? ) that causes it to seem like it's by name unless you notice that it's not scrolled far enough.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
This[^] gives you a different view with search.
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The Starter wrote:
Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008,
I thought it was an utterly BS implementation, because while the dialog comes up, it's obviously running a background thread to populate it. Come on, MSFT, you could have cached the references as a background thread while I'm still futzing with creating projects, edit code, etc! The result was frustrating--I had to wait for the whole damn thing to load before I actually saw the reference I wanted. And it's utterly useless while it loads, because of course the scrollbar is changing size as more items get added and the whole damn list was bouncing around in my attempt to scroll while loading. WTF were they thinking? Marc
Productivity Power Tools[^] replaces the default dialog and allows you to search references. Check it out.
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I love the Add Reference dialog box. Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008, but it is also possible to sort on component name, version, runtime and path. Both .Net and COM reference list is populated almost instantly.
it's better than it was - in as much as the dialog appears quick then sits there for an age while it populates. Given the majority of solutions contain only a small number of projects - and it is reasonably likely (in my experiecne) that it is a reference to one of these projects that you might be adding, wouldn't it have been nice to have the default tab be the one to show this solution's assemblies - which would populate quickly, and then load the system assemblies in a background thread? seems logical to me - AIMS? ** EDIT ** just read this at blogs.msdn.com Thanks for all of the feedback. We'll be making the change to have the Add Reference dialog default to the project tab in the next version. It should also remember which tab you last used after that first initial session.
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I love the Add Reference dialog box. Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008, but it is also possible to sort on component name, version, runtime and path. Both .Net and COM reference list is populated almost instantly.
Yeah it is better than the older versions. I'm still not too sure about the speed though. :~
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Yeah it is better than the older versions. I'm still not too sure about the speed though. :~
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I love the Add Reference dialog box. Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008, but it is also possible to sort on component name, version, runtime and path. Both .Net and COM reference list is populated almost instantly.
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It 'launches fast' because it shows you the dialog, then makes you wait for it to populate. I think it's slower overall, the other one just used to not show until it was ready for use. I think it needs a search, esp when the default sort is not by name and it's by something ( .NET version ? ) that causes it to seem like it's by name unless you notice that it's not scrolled far enough.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I love the Add Reference dialog box. Not only it launches fast compared to the Add Reference dialog box in VS2008, but it is also possible to sort on component name, version, runtime and path. Both .Net and COM reference list is populated almost instantly.