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Dalek Dave wrote:
What have I said that was incorrect then?
They (I mean colonial British) created those articles of "development" that you hint they are only to be able to colonize better. They needed a better means of transport that could carry off the loot quicker to the docks. Every single "legacy", including corruption, was to ruin the land and nothing else. I hope how the allegory of rape is clear.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Did Indians invent any of the things I mentioned?
Well, neither did British invent any of those...
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bleedingfingers wrote:
Well, neither did British invent any of those...
Man are you so bitter and living in the past that you believe the shit you are peddling? Never heard of Richard Trevithick[^] or George Stephenson[^] I forgot how advanced and civilised India was. With it's disease and malnutrition, and it's interfaction rivalries, it was an absolute paradise, and today, 50 odd years after you have run your own affairs you have managed to stop all the problems the British caused, like Malaria (or is that not the case that there are 500,000 malarial deaths a year?), Water Shortages (Oh, wait, 600 foot drop in Water table in last 50 years), Religious Intolerance (Damn, still got that) etc.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Agreed, India is booming, it should not need aid. However there may be some major problems in the next 10-15 years. Water[^], and it is only going to get worse.
My city Bangalore is accelerating towards that as well. The ground water is over used. Whatever is left is contaminated. But who cares, people are going to emigrate more than usual...well the "west" must care :D
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Where will a billion people emigrate too? No country will take them, and no country has the resources to feed and water them. India must address population control or there will be major problems. And why do you say the West 'Must' care? The west will not be in a position to help. We have our own problems, or have you not seen the news? Riots all across France, Poverty in most of Southern Europe, Britain in Financial trouble, the US has major unemployment. This will take 20 years to clear, India probably hasn't got 20 years of viable water, so what can you do? China is the same, they will be invading Siberia soon!
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bleedingfingers wrote:
Well, neither did British invent any of those...
Man are you so bitter and living in the past that you believe the shit you are peddling? Never heard of Richard Trevithick[^] or George Stephenson[^] I forgot how advanced and civilised India was. With it's disease and malnutrition, and it's interfaction rivalries, it was an absolute paradise, and today, 50 odd years after you have run your own affairs you have managed to stop all the problems the British caused, like Malaria (or is that not the case that there are 500,000 malarial deaths a year?), Water Shortages (Oh, wait, 600 foot drop in Water table in last 50 years), Religious Intolerance (Damn, still got that) etc.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
bleedingfingers wrote: Well, neither did British invent any of those... Man are you so bitter and living in the past that you believe the sh*t you are peddling? Never heard of Richard Trevithick[^] or George Stephenson[^] I forgot how advanced and civilised India was. With it's disease and malnutrition, and it's interfaction rivalries, it was an absolute paradise, and today, 50 odd years after you have run your own affairs you have managed to stop all the problems the British caused, like Malaria (or is that not the case that there are 500,000 malarial deaths a year?), Water Shortages (Oh, wait, 600 foot drop in Water table in last 50 years), Religious Intolerance (Damn, still got that) etc.
Dude, I am a lot more aware than you expect me to be...considering me being Indian and all... I am not bitter, why must I be. I just countered your claims. From the list you mentioned, sure, the train but not the other biggies. For someone hailing from an island that didn't have any semblance of identity until it was raped by the Romans somewhere in the current era (CE) you have quite a gall to talk about civilizations like India (and China...just a reference for future to help you get rid of your congenital foot-in-mouth disease) that shared and exchanged knowledge with the likes of Greeks that "western" people like you claim to the originators of knowledge... why do I waste time talking to a wasted Brit.....
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Where will a billion people emigrate too? No country will take them, and no country has the resources to feed and water them. India must address population control or there will be major problems. And why do you say the West 'Must' care? The west will not be in a position to help. We have our own problems, or have you not seen the news? Riots all across France, Poverty in most of Southern Europe, Britain in Financial trouble, the US has major unemployment. This will take 20 years to clear, India probably hasn't got 20 years of viable water, so what can you do? China is the same, they will be invading Siberia soon!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
Where will a billion people emigrate too? No country will take them, and no country has the resources to feed and water them. India must address population control or there will be major problems. And why do you say the West 'Must' care? The west will not be in a position to help. We have our own problems, or have you not seen the news? Riots all across France, Poverty in most of Southern Europe, Britain in Financial trouble, the US has major unemployment. This will take 20 years to clear, India probably hasn't got 20 years of viable water, so what can you do? China is the same, they will be invading Siberia soon!
I am now convinced that coming up with single words and forging a CCC is your strong point and not the figures of speech or other aspects of language.
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Where will a billion people emigrate too? No country will take them, and no country has the resources to feed and water them. India must address population control or there will be major problems. And why do you say the West 'Must' care? The west will not be in a position to help. We have our own problems, or have you not seen the news? Riots all across France, Poverty in most of Southern Europe, Britain in Financial trouble, the US has major unemployment. This will take 20 years to clear, India probably hasn't got 20 years of viable water, so what can you do? China is the same, they will be invading Siberia soon!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
The Solutions would be 1. Drink beer instead of water. 2. Stop taking baths and save water. 3. ration water like Petrol. Besides fun, we always have floods every year in most of the places, we have to use them properly(I meant the rain). Divert the rivers. public awareness, thats the tough part of the plan. :)
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" -Pascal
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21st October 1805 Nelson defeated the villainous French at the battle of Trafalgar. To mark this we have lost The Ark Royal, no Aircraft for our Aircraft Carriers for 9 years and major cuts across the board. I always though Navy Cuts were a type of cigarette, (We know how sailors love tobacco, always up for some rough shag). Strangely, despite having to cut £3,000,000,000 from the defence budget, we appear to be giving foreign aid. So help foreigners at the cost of defending the country? Very odd. Personally we should cut all foreign aid to countries with nuclear technology, if you can afford that you don't need our money. Also we have to pay into EU Funds. That should stop as well. Oh look, I have just saved £20 Billion a year! /rant
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
modified on Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:25 AM
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Dalek Dave wrote:
But look what we gave you! We created India, it was a bunch of individual states. Civil Service, Trains, The English Language, Democracy, Curry. Still, I think we have paid enough now, build your own space ships! Smile
You are the Arab equivalent of knowledge, you hardly came up with anything original and just propagated what you came across. Besides, you can't rape a woman and claim to have given her an opportunity to experience the joy of motherhood.
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bleedingfingers wrote:
You are the Arab equivalent of knowledge, you hardly came up with anything original and just propagated what you came across.
I've reported this message as abuse, I think it is racist. My wife is an Arab, and for some reason it is OK to attack them, but not other groups. How dare you assume all Arabs are the same, just an ignorant attitude from an ignorant person.
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21st October 1805 Nelson defeated the villainous French at the battle of Trafalgar. To mark this we have lost The Ark Royal, no Aircraft for our Aircraft Carriers for 9 years and major cuts across the board. I always though Navy Cuts were a type of cigarette, (We know how sailors love tobacco, always up for some rough shag). Strangely, despite having to cut £3,000,000,000 from the defence budget, we appear to be giving foreign aid. So help foreigners at the cost of defending the country? Very odd. Personally we should cut all foreign aid to countries with nuclear technology, if you can afford that you don't need our money. Also we have to pay into EU Funds. That should stop as well. Oh look, I have just saved £20 Billion a year! /rant
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
modified on Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:25 AM
This is a failure in the first duty of government, which is to protect its people. I couldn't beleive it when I found out the UK won't have an aircraft carrier, we live on an island for heaven's sake, naval defences are probably important.....
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Civil Service, Trains, The English Language, Democracy, Curry.
That reminds me of - "Tell me one thing the Romans did for us..."
Go and never darken my towels again - Groucho Marx
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bleedingfingers wrote:
You are the Arab equivalent of knowledge, you hardly came up with anything original and just propagated what you came across.
I've reported this message as abuse, I think it is racist. My wife is an Arab, and for some reason it is OK to attack them, but not other groups. How dare you assume all Arabs are the same, just an ignorant attitude from an ignorant person.
Keith Barrow wrote:
I've reported this message as abuse, I think it is racist. My wife is an Arab, and for some reason it is OK to attack them, but not other groups. How dare you assume all Arabs are the same, just an ignorant attitude from an ignorant person.
Considering a mere mention of an ethnicity as "racist" depends on lot of factors, including latent disgust. Why can't you "westerners" (oops was I racist again or directionist perhaps) take things at face value without reading between the lines and whining? You are free to report by the way. It is well known that Arabs retained, maintained and helped propagate knowledge during the "dark ages". This was their major role as opposed to "original" aspects; they synthesised. If it wasn't for them we might have still been in dark ages.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
bleedingfingers wrote: Well, neither did British invent any of those... Man are you so bitter and living in the past that you believe the sh*t you are peddling? Never heard of Richard Trevithick[^] or George Stephenson[^] I forgot how advanced and civilised India was. With it's disease and malnutrition, and it's interfaction rivalries, it was an absolute paradise, and today, 50 odd years after you have run your own affairs you have managed to stop all the problems the British caused, like Malaria (or is that not the case that there are 500,000 malarial deaths a year?), Water Shortages (Oh, wait, 600 foot drop in Water table in last 50 years), Religious Intolerance (Damn, still got that) etc.
Dude, I am a lot more aware than you expect me to be...considering me being Indian and all... I am not bitter, why must I be. I just countered your claims. From the list you mentioned, sure, the train but not the other biggies. For someone hailing from an island that didn't have any semblance of identity until it was raped by the Romans somewhere in the current era (CE) you have quite a gall to talk about civilizations like India (and China...just a reference for future to help you get rid of your congenital foot-in-mouth disease) that shared and exchanged knowledge with the likes of Greeks that "western" people like you claim to the originators of knowledge... why do I waste time talking to a wasted Brit.....
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Read your history books. 3000 BC we had flushing toilets and trade with the east. It took the Romans 3 attempts to take the Islands, and even then they had to garrison the largest part of their army here because we fought them for 400 years. We do not take shit!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
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The Solutions would be 1. Drink beer instead of water. 2. Stop taking baths and save water. 3. ration water like Petrol. Besides fun, we always have floods every year in most of the places, we have to use them properly(I meant the rain). Divert the rivers. public awareness, thats the tough part of the plan. :)
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" -Pascal
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This is a failure in the first duty of government, which is to protect its people. I couldn't beleive it when I found out the UK won't have an aircraft carrier, we live on an island for heaven's sake, naval defences are probably important.....
Some shipyards and a merchant navy probably wouldn't go amiss either. Whoops, too late :( . Andy B
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bleedingfingers wrote:
You are the Arab equivalent of knowledge, you hardly came up with anything original and just propagated what you came across.
I've reported this message as abuse, I think it is racist. My wife is an Arab, and for some reason it is OK to attack them, but not other groups. How dare you assume all Arabs are the same, just an ignorant attitude from an ignorant person.
Keith Barrow wrote:
I've reported this message as abuse
I vote to have this thread moved to the Soap Box forum where it belongs. Matter of fact, any thread that has rivalry between cultures should be done in the Soap Box fourm at the least.
Just do it!
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Keith Barrow wrote:
I've reported this message as abuse
I vote to have this thread moved to the Soap Box forum where it belongs. Matter of fact, any thread that has rivalry between cultures should be done in the Soap Box fourm at the least.
Just do it!
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Keith Barrow wrote:
I've reported this message as abuse, I think it is racist. My wife is an Arab, and for some reason it is OK to attack them, but not other groups. How dare you assume all Arabs are the same, just an ignorant attitude from an ignorant person.
Considering a mere mention of an ethnicity as "racist" depends on lot of factors, including latent disgust. Why can't you "westerners" (oops was I racist again or directionist perhaps) take things at face value without reading between the lines and whining? You are free to report by the way. It is well known that Arabs retained, maintained and helped propagate knowledge during the "dark ages". This was their major role as opposed to "original" aspects; they synthesised. If it wasn't for them we might have still been in dark ages.
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bleedingfingers wrote:
Considering a mere mention of an ethnicity as "racist" depends on lot of factors
No, you were being derogatory about a race, which you named, this is pretty much a definition of racism. I quote once more: "You are the Arab equivalent of knowledge". How is this not racist? It is pretty clear that whatever you consider the "Arab Equivelent of Knowledge" to be, it is (and therefore by extension Arabs) inferior to some other standard you hold.
bleedingfingers wrote:
You are free to report by the way.
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Yeah, but this thread IMO has gone south for the winter. Sorry Dave.
Just do it!
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21st October 1805 Nelson defeated the villainous French at the battle of Trafalgar. To mark this we have lost The Ark Royal, no Aircraft for our Aircraft Carriers for 9 years and major cuts across the board. I always though Navy Cuts were a type of cigarette, (We know how sailors love tobacco, always up for some rough shag). Strangely, despite having to cut £3,000,000,000 from the defence budget, we appear to be giving foreign aid. So help foreigners at the cost of defending the country? Very odd. Personally we should cut all foreign aid to countries with nuclear technology, if you can afford that you don't need our money. Also we have to pay into EU Funds. That should stop as well. Oh look, I have just saved £20 Billion a year! /rant
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
modified on Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:25 AM
Yes it baffles me why we don't cut foreign aid, it's a complete waste of money.
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Keith Barrow wrote:
I've reported this message as abuse
I vote to have this thread moved to the Soap Box forum where it belongs. Matter of fact, any thread that has rivalry between cultures should be done in the Soap Box fourm at the least.
Just do it!
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Some shipyards and a merchant navy probably wouldn't go amiss either. Whoops, too late :( . Andy B
You're telling me, I'm from Newcastle, my Grandad was a welder for Swan Hunters. I used to work in Sunderland (at one point the world's largest shipbuilers) it is a total wasteland (or more of a wasteland than it would've been if the yards handn't closed :-)).