Visual Studio .NET 2003
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Have any of you MSDN subscribers gotten the Visual Studio .NET 2003 beta yet? Is it any better? Why waste time learning when ignorance in instantaneous -Hobbes
Visual C++ certainly is, plus some things that were broke are no longer. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Have any of you MSDN subscribers gotten the Visual Studio .NET 2003 beta yet? Is it any better? Why waste time learning when ignorance in instantaneous -Hobbes
<plug> Hey you fine folks, don't forget when it's time to either renew MSDN, or pickup VS.NET, there's no better place than right here at CodeProject! http://www.codeproject.com/info/vsnet/[^] </plug> ;) David
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Visual C++ certainly is, plus some things that were broke are no longer. cheers, Chris Maunder
What was broken ? And now that you're in Canada, are you and David sitting on opposite sides of the same desk ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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<plug> Hey you fine folks, don't forget when it's time to either renew MSDN, or pickup VS.NET, there's no better place than right here at CodeProject! http://www.codeproject.com/info/vsnet/[^] </plug> ;) David
David Cunningham wrote: there's no better place than right here at CodeProject! Will CP be selling upgrades from the current VS.NET to the new one ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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David Cunningham wrote: there's no better place than right here at CodeProject! Will CP be selling upgrades from the current VS.NET to the new one ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Have any of you MSDN subscribers gotten the Visual Studio .NET 2003 beta yet? Is it any better? Why waste time learning when ignorance in instantaneous -Hobbes
A few things I noticed right away. 1. Outlining for C++ now works right in conjunction with the class view. 2. Winforms designer now works with C++, which I don't *think* was the case in 2002. However, Visual Assist has stopped working. :eek: Anyone know how to make it work? -Lunchy
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Visual C++ certainly is, plus some things that were broke are no longer. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Visual C++ certainly is, plus some things that were broke are no longer. Yah, sounds good. :) I don't see why they arent letting people order it on CD like they did for VS .NET 2002 BETA 2. :(( Why waste time learning when ignorance in instantaneous -Hobbes
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David Cunningham wrote: there's no better place than right here at CodeProject! Will CP be selling upgrades from the current VS.NET to the new one ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Will CP be selling upgrades from the current VS.NET to the new one ? No, I think MS will be handling that directly. David
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What was broken ? And now that you're in Canada, are you and David sitting on opposite sides of the same desk ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian Graus wrote: What was broken If you believe Nick Hodapp, nothing ;) There are some IDE issues that are fixed plus general bug fixes. Also things like MC++ not working properly in ASP.NET and the whole Forms designer thing. Christian Graus wrote: are you and David sitting on opposite sides of the same desk ? Yes - and if he starts playing footsies again I'm gonna slap him. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Christian Graus wrote: What was broken If you believe Nick Hodapp, nothing ;) There are some IDE issues that are fixed plus general bug fixes. Also things like MC++ not working properly in ASP.NET and the whole Forms designer thing. Christian Graus wrote: are you and David sitting on opposite sides of the same desk ? Yes - and if he starts playing footsies again I'm gonna slap him. cheers, Chris Maunder
You've got to be kidding me, Chris. I've never said VS was perfect. If it were, I'd have nothing to do... Nick This posting is provided “AS IS” with no warranties, and confers no rights. You assume all risk for your use. © 2002 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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Have any of you MSDN subscribers gotten the Visual Studio .NET 2003 beta yet? Is it any better? Why waste time learning when ignorance in instantaneous -Hobbes
I am downloading it currently. 6 CD images X| Regards Thomas Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi
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Christian Graus wrote: What was broken If you believe Nick Hodapp, nothing ;) There are some IDE issues that are fixed plus general bug fixes. Also things like MC++ not working properly in ASP.NET and the whole Forms designer thing. Christian Graus wrote: are you and David sitting on opposite sides of the same desk ? Yes - and if he starts playing footsies again I'm gonna slap him. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Also things like MC++ not working properly in ASP.NET Oh. I don't use MC++ at all, so I never noticed. Chris Maunder wrote: Yes - and if he starts playing footsies again I'm gonna slap him. I'd have thought being the new boy in town, you'd take whatever action is going ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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You've got to be kidding me, Chris. I've never said VS was perfect. If it were, I'd have nothing to do... Nick This posting is provided “AS IS” with no warranties, and confers no rights. You assume all risk for your use. © 2002 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Nick Hodapp (MSFT) wrote: I've never said VS was perfect. If it were, I'd have nothing to do... So essetially your striving to lose your job in the end. ;P Nick Parker
May your glass be ever full. May the roof over your head be always strong. And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you’re dead. - Irish Blessing
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Chris Maunder wrote: Also things like MC++ not working properly in ASP.NET Oh. I don't use MC++ at all, so I never noticed. Chris Maunder wrote: Yes - and if he starts playing footsies again I'm gonna slap him. I'd have thought being the new boy in town, you'd take whatever action is going ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian Graus wrote: I'd have thought being the new boy in town, you'd take whatever action is going ? This is almost crossing the CP line of standards, almost. :) Nick Parker
May your glass be ever full. May the roof over your head be always strong. And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you’re dead. - Irish Blessing
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Christian Graus wrote: I'd have thought being the new boy in town, you'd take whatever action is going ? This is almost crossing the CP line of standards, almost. :) Nick Parker
May your glass be ever full. May the roof over your head be always strong. And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you’re dead. - Irish Blessing
We have standards ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Chris Maunder wrote: Also things like MC++ not working properly in ASP.NET Oh. I don't use MC++ at all, so I never noticed. Chris Maunder wrote: Yes - and if he starts playing footsies again I'm gonna slap him. I'd have thought being the new boy in town, you'd take whatever action is going ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian Graus wrote: I'd have thought being the new boy in town, you'd take whatever action is going ? That is so, so wrong :P cheers, Chris Maunder
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Have any of you MSDN subscribers gotten the Visual Studio .NET 2003 beta yet? Is it any better? Why waste time learning when ignorance in instantaneous -Hobbes
I got my CDs last week through the VS.NET Beta programme, only got around to installing it today though and I haven't had a chance to put it through its paces. -- Paul "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." - David Brent, from "The Office" MS Messenger: paul@oobaloo.co.uk Sonork: 100.22446
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Visual C++ certainly is, plus some things that were broke are no longer. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Christian Graus wrote: What was broken If you believe Nick Hodapp, nothing ;) There are some IDE issues that are fixed plus general bug fixes. Also things like MC++ not working properly in ASP.NET and the whole Forms designer thing. Christian Graus wrote: are you and David sitting on opposite sides of the same desk ? Yes - and if he starts playing footsies again I'm gonna slap him. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: and if he starts playing footsies again I'm gonna slap him. lol. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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We have standards ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian Graus wrote: We have standards ? In a fake abstract sort of way, well err....not really. :~ Nick Parker
May your glass be ever full. May the roof over your head be always strong. And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you’re dead. - Irish Blessing