Windows Phone 7 - Smart Phone haters and non geeks avert your eyes [modified]
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
modified on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:01 PM
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
modified on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:01 PM
What about the available applications for WP7? Quantity, quality etc.?
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What about the available applications for WP7? Quantity, quality etc.?
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There seem to be quite a few apps out there already. The few that I've tried (all free) have been of good quality.
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
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Yes, I also tried yesterday in the at&t store, the AMOLED screen was stunning (I want 24" AMOLED monitor :rolleyes: ), and the fonts are so sharp. The overall OS was fluid, and more responsive than my iPhone 3GS. if you compare the weight and size of Samsung Focus, you will not notice that it's in your pocket. HTC Surround was disappointing, there was nothing surround about that... but I will still wait for the Dell Venue Pro. cant wait to buy one... :)
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
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I'm a big fan as well, having tried an HD7 in store. 2 things I'd seriously miss from Android though: 1. The ability to tether without having to pay my carrier extra, or even tell them at all 2. Included satnav I'm pretty sold on it anyway though, might pick one up early next year if their app store matures well.
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
I am crazy about the device themselves
Missing not?
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
I must say the OS is awesome.
This is great to hear! :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
modified on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:01 PM
Need to try... Drop test, the iPhone is prone to a smashed screen Battery Life, the iPhone has dire battery life.
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
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:-D :-D :-D But can you actually make a "phone" call. :-D :-D :-D
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
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Ahhhh, another standard established by yours truly. It's very hard to argue against the fact that I truly inspire greatness. :)
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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Ahhhh, another standard established by yours truly. It's very hard to argue against the fact that I truly inspire greatness. :)
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001The persistence pays back. :)
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
modified on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:01 PM
But did you try browsing while doing other things, like listening to music? As far as I understand WP7 doesn't support multi-tasking. For me that's a deal breaker.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
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But did you try browsing while doing other things, like listening to music? As far as I understand WP7 doesn't support multi-tasking. For me that's a deal breaker.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
If you use the Zune software built into the phone, it'll play while in the background. I just tested this out (streaming music from the Zune Marketplace while browsing the web), just for you! :-D If you're talking about using a 3rd party media player instead of Zune, I believe that you're right that it won't play.
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But did you try browsing while doing other things, like listening to music? As far as I understand WP7 doesn't support multi-tasking. For me that's a deal breaker.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
But way? It’s not like MS or Apple are not capable to create multi-threaded OS for a smart phone. We know that this has nothing to do with the hardware since for a single core processor it’s just simulated from the OS so probably there is a reason behind not doing this. I think they’ve decided that the usability of multi-tasking with this very small screen will be close to zero. Also it will make the phone more expensive because the additional memory required when more than one application is running. What is the situation with the Android? Do it have a multitasking?
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I got a chance to try Windows Phone 7 phones at a store: samsung focus and HTC Surround. I must say the OS is awesome. What stands apart is the performance. My friend tested his iPhone 4 and samsung focus, side by side, and surprisingly windows phone 7 loaded the pages faster on the few sites we tried. The animations are really smooth and the UI is clearly different and refreshing. I am not crazy about the device themselves Samsung Focus is the only device I liked (form factor + it has a good AMOLED screen). Also, the phones are available at reasonably discounted prices on Amazon.com.
modified on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:01 PM
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
I must say the OS is awesome
Of course it is. And what is even better is how extremely easy it is to write apps for it, compared with their competitors
i am a Microsoft fanboy. That is all you need to know.
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I'm a big fan as well, having tried an HD7 in store. 2 things I'd seriously miss from Android though: 1. The ability to tether without having to pay my carrier extra, or even tell them at all 2. Included satnav I'm pretty sold on it anyway though, might pick one up early next year if their app store matures well.
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.
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But way? It’s not like MS or Apple are not capable to create multi-threaded OS for a smart phone. We know that this has nothing to do with the hardware since for a single core processor it’s just simulated from the OS so probably there is a reason behind not doing this. I think they’ve decided that the usability of multi-tasking with this very small screen will be close to zero. Also it will make the phone more expensive because the additional memory required when more than one application is running. What is the situation with the Android? Do it have a multitasking?
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Android has 3rd party multitasking, and IIRC did before the iPhone did. WP7 will get it in a future update, adding support while making sure background apps don't rape the battery was one of the features removed from the 1.0 release in order to keep the launch timetable as short as possible.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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If you use the Zune software built into the phone, it'll play while in the background. I just tested this out (streaming music from the Zune Marketplace while browsing the web), just for you! :-D If you're talking about using a 3rd party media player instead of Zune, I believe that you're right that it won't play.
Exactly, you can't use Pandora and other apps in WP7. Taking away features people have come to expect is not the way to sell devices.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
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But way? It’s not like MS or Apple are not capable to create multi-threaded OS for a smart phone. We know that this has nothing to do with the hardware since for a single core processor it’s just simulated from the OS so probably there is a reason behind not doing this. I think they’ve decided that the usability of multi-tasking with this very small screen will be close to zero. Also it will make the phone more expensive because the additional memory required when more than one application is running. What is the situation with the Android? Do it have a multitasking?
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Sorry but your arguments don't hold up. Android is capable of such tasks. I routinely have Pandora and a GPS tracking app running in the background while checking emails.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
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Exactly, you can't use Pandora and other apps in WP7. Taking away features people have come to expect is not the way to sell devices.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
I ask this seriously because I don't know and can't be bothered to fire up Google to find out ;) ... did the first version of the iPhone support backgrounding Pandora, etc.? If so, I can (kind of) see your point; however, even if it did, I'd rather have Microsoft produce a product that works well at everything it does than one that promises something that it delivers poorly. I believe that there will (eventually) be an update to allow third-party apps to run in the background if they need that capability. I imagine that it'll wind up being another thing the app has to ask permission to do (like accessing location info, etc.) and that most apps won't do it because most won't need to do so. I think that most apps (obviously not ones like Pandora) will work just fine with the push notification system that WP7 supports. That said, I really wish the twitter app supported push notifications (that, or that someone would point me toward one that does). Anyway, I upgraded from a WM6.5 device to my WP7-based Focus and haven't missed multitasking (except for twitter, that is, and that could be resolved if the app supported push) but then I don't use Pandora and the like.
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Need to try... Drop test, the iPhone is prone to a smashed screen Battery Life, the iPhone has dire battery life.