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  • R RugbyLeague

    I always hand edit XAML. I tried to use Expression Blend but it generated so much noise that I mostly gave up on it - I still use it occasionally just to try some stuff out but that's about it.

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    Super Lloyd
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    I never use it as well! But, as I'm learning WP7 dev, some tutorials I read, and it was handy to view and test the build-in text styles and icons!

    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Sorry - you didn't specify that. :laugh: To late now, once I vote, I vote!

      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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      Super Lloyd
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      That's ok, I prefer hand editing, hence I'm happy for any hand editing voting support! XAML by hand power! :-D

      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        I can't use Expression Blend for design because of the light gray on gray color scheme used in the UI. The agist pricks who designed it ought to be shot. The only time I use it is when I'm creating a new template for an existing control; it's the easiest way to modify the existing control template. At that, I use if to get the existing template, and then copy/paste it into Studio, where I edit the XAML by hand.

        Software Zen: delete this;
        Fold With Us![^]

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        Super Lloyd
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        Good idea!

        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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        • S Super Lloyd

          I never use it as well! But, as I'm learning WP7 dev, some tutorials I read, and it was handy to view and test the build-in text styles and icons!

          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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          RugbyLeague
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          Unfortunately more and more tutorials are using expression blend. The bad thing is quite a few spot solutions use xaml built in expression blend so it can take a while to remove all the fluff to get the xaml in a state where it is understandable and can be used in your own solution.

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          • S Super Lloyd

            [EDIT] changed the wording: 1 for hand written XAML Vote for this thread. 1. if you don't use the WPF Designer, i.e. write XAML by hand 5. if you use the WPF designer or another XAML generation tool! I'm just curious, I always hand edit my XAML files with the designer. I'm just starting to think perhaps I should have a new look at the designer?!? But I'm also curious, what other people do!

            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

            modified on Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:18 AM

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            Lost User
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            A good poll, shame I can't give you a five.

            Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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              A good poll, shame I can't give you a five.

              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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              Super Lloyd
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              I confused myself when I wrote it! :laugh: Hence I gave the value 1 to my favorite result! :rolleyes:

              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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              • S Super Lloyd

                [EDIT] changed the wording: 1 for hand written XAML Vote for this thread. 1. if you don't use the WPF Designer, i.e. write XAML by hand 5. if you use the WPF designer or another XAML generation tool! I'm just curious, I always hand edit my XAML files with the designer. I'm just starting to think perhaps I should have a new look at the designer?!? But I'm also curious, what other people do!

                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                Daniel Grunwald
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                I have written a WPF designer (for SharpDevelop), yet I never use it. WYSIWYG just doesn't work for WPF - at least not if you need your UI to be localizable, with automatically sized buttons and container panels. Hand-editing XAML is the way to go, unfortunately.

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                • D Daniel Grunwald

                  I have written a WPF designer (for SharpDevelop), yet I never use it. WYSIWYG just doesn't work for WPF - at least not if you need your UI to be localizable, with automatically sized buttons and container panels. Hand-editing XAML is the way to go, unfortunately.

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  What an Irony! But it's a good confirmation of my impressions hey! :P

                  A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                  • S Super Lloyd

                    [EDIT] changed the wording: 1 for hand written XAML Vote for this thread. 1. if you don't use the WPF Designer, i.e. write XAML by hand 5. if you use the WPF designer or another XAML generation tool! I'm just curious, I always hand edit my XAML files with the designer. I'm just starting to think perhaps I should have a new look at the designer?!? But I'm also curious, what other people do!

                    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

                    modified on Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:18 AM

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    I'll not vote - and here's why. I use a combination of the two. I hand code the basic stuff in XAML, such as laying out textboxes, textblocks and the such. I use Blend to style the app - that's just too cumbersome to do by hand.

                    I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      I'll not vote - and here's why. I use a combination of the two. I hand code the basic stuff in XAML, such as laying out textboxes, textblocks and the such. I use Blend to style the app - that's just too cumbersome to do by hand.

                      I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                      Got a poppy! I had lost the black cap on mine, the one that held it all together. I found another that I had picked up in my blazer pocket, with a broken stem. Take the black cap out, place it on the first one, and I've got a true poppy. The only question is where to wear it. A blazer is fine in London, where the temperature is generally around 12° C. Madras is blazing at 31° C, I will get cooked if I wear one. Will try to plug one into a buttonhole or something tomorrow to work. :cool:

                      Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                      • S Super Lloyd

                        [EDIT] changed the wording: 1 for hand written XAML Vote for this thread. 1. if you don't use the WPF Designer, i.e. write XAML by hand 5. if you use the WPF designer or another XAML generation tool! I'm just curious, I always hand edit my XAML files with the designer. I'm just starting to think perhaps I should have a new look at the designer?!? But I'm also curious, what other people do!

                        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

                        modified on Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:18 AM

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                        Christian Graus
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                        If the designer actually works in VS2010, then it was rubbish for so long that I got used to doing it by hand.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                          Got a poppy! I had lost the black cap on mine, the one that held it all together. I found another that I had picked up in my blazer pocket, with a broken stem. Take the black cap out, place it on the first one, and I've got a true poppy. The only question is where to wear it. A blazer is fine in London, where the temperature is generally around 12° C. Madras is blazing at 31° C, I will get cooked if I wear one. Will try to plug one into a buttonhole or something tomorrow to work. :cool:

                          Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          Good man. Well done.:thumbsup:

                          I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                          • P Pete OHanlon

                            I'll not vote - and here's why. I use a combination of the two. I hand code the basic stuff in XAML, such as laying out textboxes, textblocks and the such. I use Blend to style the app - that's just too cumbersome to do by hand.

                            I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                            Super Lloyd
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                            Interesting idea! :)

                            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                            • S Super Lloyd

                              [EDIT] changed the wording: 1 for hand written XAML Vote for this thread. 1. if you don't use the WPF Designer, i.e. write XAML by hand 5. if you use the WPF designer or another XAML generation tool! I'm just curious, I always hand edit my XAML files with the designer. I'm just starting to think perhaps I should have a new look at the designer?!? But I'm also curious, what other people do!

                              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

                              modified on Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:18 AM

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                              la01
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                              Hand written - I find it easier.

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                              • S Super Lloyd

                                [EDIT] changed the wording: 1 for hand written XAML Vote for this thread. 1. if you don't use the WPF Designer, i.e. write XAML by hand 5. if you use the WPF designer or another XAML generation tool! I'm just curious, I always hand edit my XAML files with the designer. I'm just starting to think perhaps I should have a new look at the designer?!? But I'm also curious, what other people do!

                                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

                                modified on Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:18 AM

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                I'm quite tall, so I'm disqualified from voting.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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