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It's Official - Marijuana Is Legal In Arizona

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Legalize the lot. Then tax it. Result: Better quality on the street at cheaper or the same prices. Lower health costs as a result of badly cut rubbish. Lower policing costs. Less organised crime. Increased government revenue. Downsides? None that I can see. And before anyone gets started on "dope heads bias", I don't swallow, smoke, snort or jab any illegal substances. Or rub them on, if that would work.

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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    Rob Graham
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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    Better quality on the street at cheaper or the same prices

    I you go by what's happened to tobacco prices, that seems unlikely: 10% product cost + profit, 90% tax...

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      Better quality on the street at cheaper or the same prices

      I you go by what's happened to tobacco prices, that seems unlikely: 10% product cost + profit, 90% tax...

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      OriginalGriff
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      I had forgotten government greed, I admit. However, you effectively have that in illegal drugs at present. "Base price for a kilogram of cocaine: $610 and ends up on the street at $110000" (Source[^]) - which kinda puts even the UK government tobacco larceny into some kind of perspective!

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      • H Henry Minute

        cough! cough! cough! aaaaaaatchoooo!

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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        Mike Hankey
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        Got the munchies? Been stockin up on Moon Pies, I'm ready.

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        • R Roger Wright

          But only if you're really ill: Voters Approve Medical Marijuana[^] This will be interesting to watch firsthand. Opponents claim dire consequences will result, just as those who opposed California's move to "decriminalize" pot 20 years ago claimed. They predict a huge increase in drug use, heightened crime around the dispensaries, hordes of people driving impaired, and all sorts of wild terrors. It didn't happen in The Peoples' Republic; I wonder what will happen here? I find it entertaining to listen to the wild predictions of nutjobs on both sides of the issue, and I predict that nothing much will change, except that some very ill people will find relief that doctors can't otherwise provide, and some boneheads who are already using the stuff will find ways to scam the system and continue their old ways legally. As a bonus, a bunch of California kids who visit the river here each year, thinking it's safe to bring a little dope with them, will not be surprised by a ten year prison sentence when they get caught with it in AZ. It's my guess that judges will have trouble justifying harsh sentences after this change sets in... Let the mayhem begin - I've got a ringside seat! :-D

          Will Rogers never met me.

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          Roger Wright wrote:

          all sorts of wild terrors. It didn't happen in The Peoples' Republic;

          Have you taken a look at California's elected leaders? They are the very model of a modern wild terror, aren't they?

          “The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” ~ Carl Sagan

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            "Reefer Madness" Oh my god watch out gun totting pot-heads will be roaming the streets looking for there next fix. :) What will change nothing except like you say some people that need it will get relief and drug dealers won't be getting as rich as they were.

            Roger Wright wrote:

            It's my guess that judges will have trouble justifying harsh sentences after this change sets in...

            One can only hope.

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            JimmyRopes
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            Mike Hankey wrote:

            Oh my god watch out gun totting pot-heads will be roaming the streets looking for there next fix

            Is Arizona in Texas?

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            • J JimmyRopes

              Mike Hankey wrote:

              Oh my god watch out gun totting pot-heads will be roaming the streets looking for there next fix

              Is Arizona in Texas?

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              Mike Hankey
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              So close they share the cost of the fence. Like a good neighbor...

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              • O Oakman

                Roger Wright wrote:

                all sorts of wild terrors. It didn't happen in The Peoples' Republic;

                Have you taken a look at California's elected leaders? They are the very model of a modern wild terror, aren't they?

                “The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” ~ Carl Sagan

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                Mike Hankey
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                Maybe they should go ahead and inhale. :)

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                • J JimmyRopes

                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  Oh my god watch out gun totting pot-heads will be roaming the streets looking for there next fix

                  Is Arizona in Texas?

                  Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                  Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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                  JimmyRopes wrote:

                  Is Arizona in Texas?

                  ROFL

                  “The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” ~ Carl Sagan

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    But only if you're really ill: Voters Approve Medical Marijuana[^] This will be interesting to watch firsthand. Opponents claim dire consequences will result, just as those who opposed California's move to "decriminalize" pot 20 years ago claimed. They predict a huge increase in drug use, heightened crime around the dispensaries, hordes of people driving impaired, and all sorts of wild terrors. It didn't happen in The Peoples' Republic; I wonder what will happen here? I find it entertaining to listen to the wild predictions of nutjobs on both sides of the issue, and I predict that nothing much will change, except that some very ill people will find relief that doctors can't otherwise provide, and some boneheads who are already using the stuff will find ways to scam the system and continue their old ways legally. As a bonus, a bunch of California kids who visit the river here each year, thinking it's safe to bring a little dope with them, will not be surprised by a ten year prison sentence when they get caught with it in AZ. It's my guess that judges will have trouble justifying harsh sentences after this change sets in... Let the mayhem begin - I've got a ringside seat! :-D

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Russell Jones
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                    So have they won the war? St Bill[^]

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      But only if you're really ill: Voters Approve Medical Marijuana[^] This will be interesting to watch firsthand. Opponents claim dire consequences will result, just as those who opposed California's move to "decriminalize" pot 20 years ago claimed. They predict a huge increase in drug use, heightened crime around the dispensaries, hordes of people driving impaired, and all sorts of wild terrors. It didn't happen in The Peoples' Republic; I wonder what will happen here? I find it entertaining to listen to the wild predictions of nutjobs on both sides of the issue, and I predict that nothing much will change, except that some very ill people will find relief that doctors can't otherwise provide, and some boneheads who are already using the stuff will find ways to scam the system and continue their old ways legally. As a bonus, a bunch of California kids who visit the river here each year, thinking it's safe to bring a little dope with them, will not be surprised by a ten year prison sentence when they get caught with it in AZ. It's my guess that judges will have trouble justifying harsh sentences after this change sets in... Let the mayhem begin - I've got a ringside seat! :-D

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Yeah, maybe now my brother will move over here... :~ But, yeah, most drugs should be handled like alcohol -- do what you want in the privacy of your own home (or have a designated driver), but don't try to drive or otherwise endanger others.

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                      • O Oakman

                        Roger Wright wrote:

                        all sorts of wild terrors. It didn't happen in The Peoples' Republic;

                        Have you taken a look at California's elected leaders? They are the very model of a modern wild terror, aren't they?

                        “The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” ~ Carl Sagan

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                        Roger Wright
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                        Nothing new there. They were the first ones to elect Ronald Reagan. They had Jerry Brown, too, after his dad bankrupted the state while he was in office. Jerry did the same in true family tradition the first time around, and now they've given him the reins again. You can't blame pot for that... maybe it's the water.

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Legalize the lot. Then tax it. Result: Better quality on the street at cheaper or the same prices. Lower health costs as a result of badly cut rubbish. Lower policing costs. Less organised crime. Increased government revenue. Downsides? None that I can see. And before anyone gets started on "dope heads bias", I don't swallow, smoke, snort or jab any illegal substances. Or rub them on, if that would work.

                          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          Better quality on the street at cheaper or the same prices.

                          You're kidding, right? "Hey, they're willing to pay $N per unit now*, so let's charge the same!" "OK, but don't forget we need to cover taxes, so they'll have to take a drop in quality to reduce the materials costs." 'Tis the very essence of capitalism.

                          * I've just realised that, despite my living in the Netherlands, I have no idea what any of these substances cost.

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            But only if you're really ill: Voters Approve Medical Marijuana[^] This will be interesting to watch firsthand. Opponents claim dire consequences will result, just as those who opposed California's move to "decriminalize" pot 20 years ago claimed. They predict a huge increase in drug use, heightened crime around the dispensaries, hordes of people driving impaired, and all sorts of wild terrors. It didn't happen in The Peoples' Republic; I wonder what will happen here? I find it entertaining to listen to the wild predictions of nutjobs on both sides of the issue, and I predict that nothing much will change, except that some very ill people will find relief that doctors can't otherwise provide, and some boneheads who are already using the stuff will find ways to scam the system and continue their old ways legally. As a bonus, a bunch of California kids who visit the river here each year, thinking it's safe to bring a little dope with them, will not be surprised by a ten year prison sentence when they get caught with it in AZ. It's my guess that judges will have trouble justifying harsh sentences after this change sets in... Let the mayhem begin - I've got a ringside seat! :-D

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                            Went through the same dire warnings when medical marijuana was approved in Washington State. Cops have busted more dispensaries than actual users since. Flynn

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