How much would you pay for a bottle of wine?
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That is uncommonly decent of you old boy! I do like Valpolicella as well, one of the best of the Italian reds. Robust, but not harsh, I find it complements the gamier flavoured meats like venison or pheasant.
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You must have been univoted by a vegetarian. We cracked a bottle of Mouton Cadet white the other night: delightful.
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Good stuff isn't it! I'm woring from home today and I've just had a quick look at my wines. I am not a complete snob; I even have some Oz Wines here!
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Typical bloody Australian. This is red wine, you do not keep it in a fridge, it bruises. You keep red wine in a cellar or other cool place, but never in a fridge. You see when it is brought out to Chambre it must not undergo too much of a temperature change, and not quickly either. White wine is kept in a fridge because it is virtually undrinkable until it is ice cold.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Typical bloody Australian.
Whinging pom! Right, now we've got that out of the way... the problem here is that "room temperature" for red wine is 18C, not 32C. To get your reds to that temperature here, you need to either chill them in something, or drop an ice cube in the top if you are desperate...
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
and will only be drinkable around 2030.
Ah, come on, it'll be drinkable immediately. It would certainly be a waste of good wine and money, but I'm quite certain it would have a more than decent taste already after a year.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
'm quite certain it would have a more than decent taste already after a year
Actually no. One of the underlying reasons for their expense is that the wines are not in a drinkable state for about 10 years.
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£5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
£50,000 for a case
Worthless if you open it, pointless if you don't!!
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£5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:
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A good investment, if it reaches the price quoted. It represents 17.5% over 10 years (minus costs). This has been happening for ages: You pre-buy good wine (especially if the climate has been good ), then lay it down in a cellar. This is assuming you are the sort of person who has the financial & storage stability to be confident of the >10 year wait. It's possible to make a profit this way, but you have the benefit of your family inheriting a good wine cellar if you get it right.
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Good stuff isn't it! I'm woring from home today and I've just had a quick look at my wines. I am not a complete snob; I even have some Oz Wines here!
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I like wine (prefer red) but I really don't know much about it. I have 3 bottles left so I'll need ot get some for Krimble.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
'm quite certain it would have a more than decent taste already after a year
Actually no. One of the underlying reasons for their expense is that the wines are not in a drinkable state for about 10 years.
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I think that's a common misconception, do you actually know anyone that has tried wine of that quality before it's ripe. In this case (IMAO) the definition of a drinkable state is compared to what the wine might/will become. If you instead compare it with the house wine of the local greek restaurant, it will still be a waste of money, in both cases.
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£5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:
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Debateable, I do like my annual wine trips to the Loire. We usually come back with cases of methode traditionale, roses and varied at about 10 Euro per box of 6 bottles all of which are incredibly good. So while I appreciate the idea behidn investing in it, I do feel it's a bit of a waste. Good wine is for drinking.
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Typical bloody Australian. This is red wine, you do not keep it in a fridge, it bruises. You keep red wine in a cellar or other cool place, but never in a fridge. You see when it is brought out to Chambre it must not undergo too much of a temperature change, and not quickly either. White wine is kept in a fridge because it is virtually undrinkable until it is ice cold.
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Typical bloody Pom. Wine fridge, not beer fridge, 14-19C, depending on the grape, though I'm happy to branch out and make generalisations about Poms and their confusion surrounding the temperature beer should be served at. I guess for some, 14-19C would be considered a warm day. [Edit: looks like I was slow off the mark. Small, manly nod in Damian's direction. Atta boy]
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That is uncommonly decent of you old boy! I do like Valpolicella as well, one of the best of the Italian reds. Robust, but not harsh, I find it complements the gamier flavoured meats like venison or pheasant.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I do like Valpolicella as well, one of the best of the Italian reds.
So, you never had a Barolo?
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£5 for a decent one? £10 for a good wine? £100 for an EXCELLENT one? How about £4,000 for one that doesn't exsist? I was talking to my wine suppliers, I buy it by the dozen, and he was telling me about a recent auction and 2008 Lafite was selling at around £50,000 for a case. This is for a wine that is still in the barrel and won't be bottled until 2018 and will only be drinkable around 2030. You can only buy it by the case at the moment, but I thought it was good value. The current prediction is that it will worth around £250,000 per dozen by the time it's released in 2020! :omg:
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I generally stop at about £15; you can get a good Margaux for that for example. I have drunk some expensive clarets, yes, they were mostly good, but its pot luck how good it will be due to the variability of the cork. Thats why younger drinking wines are safer, the cork has had less time to affect the wine. Generally then, I think clarets are overrated. And personally, I find Burgundian reds horrible. Riojas are always good though, and there are some excellent Extremadura/Portuguese wines I have drunk (but almost impossible to find here). As for glugging, its the bag in a box, 12 euros for 5 liters. Good every day plonk thats as cheap as you would want and goes down well. (From a nearby vinyard).
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I so want to go drinking with you! I once had a few glasses of that beautiful stuff and was awfully glad I wasn't paying. It was Nectar, steeped in Ambrosia and washed over my palate as smooth as a virgin's thigh!
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I have to five that, just for the "smooth as a virgin's thigh!" part.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Typical bloody Australian.
Whinging pom! Right, now we've got that out of the way... the problem here is that "room temperature" for red wine is 18C, not 32C. To get your reds to that temperature here, you need to either chill them in something, or drop an ice cube in the top if you are desperate...
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I like wine (prefer red) but I really don't know much about it. I have 3 bottles left so I'll need ot get some for Krimble.
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digital man wrote:
I have 3 bottles left so I'll need ot[sic] get some for the weekend.
ftfy
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ROFL... I was referring to wine being served at "room temperature", which is defined as 18C (somewhere - ask a wine snob). However, room temperature here isn't that most of the time... matter of fact, it's more like 24C here right now, and it's 22:12.
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I generally stop at about £15; you can get a good Margaux for that for example. I have drunk some expensive clarets, yes, they were mostly good, but its pot luck how good it will be due to the variability of the cork. Thats why younger drinking wines are safer, the cork has had less time to affect the wine. Generally then, I think clarets are overrated. And personally, I find Burgundian reds horrible. Riojas are always good though, and there are some excellent Extremadura/Portuguese wines I have drunk (but almost impossible to find here). As for glugging, its the bag in a box, 12 euros for 5 liters. Good every day plonk thats as cheap as you would want and goes down well. (From a nearby vinyard).
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fat_boy wrote:
the bag in a box
Chateau de Cardboard.
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fat_boy wrote:
the bag in a box
Chateau de Cardboard.
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Its not bad stuff, believe me. You would happilly pay £4 a bottle in the UK for it.
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ROFL... I was referring to wine being served at "room temperature", which is defined as 18C (somewhere - ask a wine snob). However, room temperature here isn't that most of the time... matter of fact, it's more like 24C here right now, and it's 22:12.
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_Damian S_ wrote:
it's more like 24C here right now, and it's 22:12.
Wow! Makes me break out in a sweat just thinking about it. Possibly a good thing, as its about 7C here at noon.
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Its not bad stuff, believe me. You would happilly pay £4 a bottle in the UK for it.
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fat_boy wrote:
Its not bad stuff, believe me.
I'm sure it's great... I quite like supporting some of the boutique wineries around here... There's one about 45 mins up the road called the Black Cat, and the winery is inside an old Morgue... still has the hole in the floor where the coffins would be lowered and raised...
fat_boy wrote:
You would happilly pay £4 a bottle in the UK for it.
Seeing as I am in Australia, the travel cost might make it not such great value for money!!
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