CodeProject article editor sucks ass [modified]
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I assume the article is on the async ctp? :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
Judah Himango wrote:
I authored my post in Word...
I've always used Notepad, and just viewed the HTML file locally until it was the way I want it. With the exception of one article, it's always worked fine. All told, it's a 5-10 minute process.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I use Office Frontpage, more than happy with it :)
See if you can crack this: fb29a481781fe9b3fb8de57cda45fbef
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I assume the article is on the async ctp? :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Funny. I actually considered using the Async CTP in the code, but threw out the idea as frivolous article snaz. :) Check it out: building a Pandora clone in Silverlight 4. :thumbsup:
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Judah Himango -
Funny. I actually considered using the Async CTP in the code, but threw out the idea as frivolous article snaz. :) Check it out: building a Pandora clone in Silverlight 4. :thumbsup:
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Judah HimangoJudah Himango wrote:
Funny. I actually considered it, but threw out the idea as frivolous article snaz.
Ah okay. I always associate you with the type of guy who'd be spending hours digging into the latest alphas/betas of anything C# or .NET related :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Judah Himango wrote:
Funny. I actually considered it, but threw out the idea as frivolous article snaz.
Ah okay. I always associate you with the type of guy who'd be spending hours digging into the latest alphas/betas of anything C# or .NET related :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Good call, and you're right. :) If you check out the article, you'll see I use some fancy new tech (RX and CodeContracts) and comment on their viability and utility towards the end of the article.
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Judah Himango -
Judah Himango wrote:
I authored my post in Word...
I've always used Notepad, and just viewed the HTML file locally until it was the way I want it. With the exception of one article, it's always worked fine. All told, it's a 5-10 minute process.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
Old school!
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Judah Himango -
CP should just integrate with Windows Live Writer :)
Ashish Kaila
No. They really shouldn't.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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Good call, and you're right. :) If you check out the article, you'll see I use some fancy new tech (RX and CodeContracts) and comment on their viability and utility towards the end of the article.
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Judah HimangoThanks for the link Judah, I will check it out.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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No. They really shouldn't.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001If Chris ever exposes a service interface, it would be fairly simple to write article submission apps, or if people want to use stuff like Live Writer they could easily write a plugin for it.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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If Chris ever exposes a service interface, it would be fairly simple to write article submission apps, or if people want to use stuff like Live Writer they could easily write a plugin for it.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Using Live Writer or Word or any other document processor program you might care to mention is precisely why so many article submissions look like crap. I'm not onboard with the idea.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Funny, I've been working on an update for my WinForms article editor today. Old version: A Code Project Article Editor with Live Preview[^]. That version is out of date, but gives you an idea. The new version is quite stable, and has spell checking and thesaurus, and various bits and bobs including a prototype HTML validator. Would you like to do some beta testing? :) Nick
I'll check that out next article I write. Thanks.
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Judah Himango -
Using Live Writer or Word or any other document processor program you might care to mention is precisely why so many article submissions look like crap. I'm not onboard with the idea.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Using Live Writer or Word or any other document processor program you might care to mention is precisely why so many article submissions look like crap. I'm not onboard with the idea.
Maybe, but it will be fun to write a plugin :-) It probably won't be fun to read submissions that were made using the plugin, but that's a different issue there! :-D
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Using Live Writer or Word or any other document processor program you might care to mention is precisely why so many article submissions look like crap. I'm not onboard with the idea.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001No they look like crap because people cut and paste. If there is data migration in real terms via Live Writer then it will look just as it should and does in the blogging writer. If such an integration was possible I would write twice as many articles as I do now.
Ashish Kaila
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Old school!
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Judah HimangoSo are such comments. I tend to use what works, not what the latest fad is or what someone suggests simply because it has 1,000 bells and whistles. Follow the crowd, I do not.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
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So are such comments. I tend to use what works, not what the latest fad is or what someone suggests simply because it has 1,000 bells and whistles. Follow the crowd, I do not.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
That's nice. I use WLW because it works great for writing HTML posts.
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah Himango -
I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I write mine in Notepad and submit by email. They never should have added the online editor/submitifier thingy. X|
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I write them in SharepointDesigner (Beer-Free! And works for HTML idiots like me!), then paste into the so-called article editor. Just dowenload and link the CP style sheet, and you are set.
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I used Kompozer[^] for my first article and when I asked here for some advice on alternatives at least one kind respondent asked why I didn't use Visual Studio. I have done ever since for that kind of thing and it has many advantages. As the others have mentioned, I then use the Email route.
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Hi Henry, I just gave it a spin. It looks great. Thanks for the tip. :)
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