Herr Jobler and Apple
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
They don't want to advertise a rival product on their product.
When did censoring the material that people are allowed to read go from being totally unacceptable behaviour to good corporate practice? I'll subscribe to whatever newspapers, magazines, e-zines, feeds, and e-mail lists I damned well want to. The idea of a private company assuming the right to censor my reading material in such a way goes far beyond the pale.
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Mark Wallace wrote:
When did censoring the material that people are allowed to read go from being totally unacceptable behaviour to good corporate practice?
They aren't censoring it, they are saying they don't want to sell it. Censorship is when you are prevented from reading it. This is completely different.
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http://www.reghardware.com/2010/11/29/apple_vs_android_on_ipad/ Yeah, Apple, you're so "nice" and "friendly" with your roundy corners and funky ads. I think this is unacceptable. It's taking things too far by half.
Nice publicity for the mag. Probably no one knew about the mag, now many people know about it because of this incident.
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Mark Wallace wrote:
When did censoring the material that people are allowed to read go from being totally unacceptable behaviour to good corporate practice?
They aren't censoring it, they are saying they don't want to sell it. Censorship is when you are prevented from reading it. This is completely different.
Electron Shepherd wrote:
Censorship is when you are prevented from reading it. This is completely different.
Denying you access to something doesn't prevent you from reading it? A curious viewpoint.
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Nice publicity for the mag. Probably no one knew about the mag, now many people know about it because of this incident.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Nice publicity for the mag. Probably no one knew about the mag, now many people know about it because of this incident.
Yup. Hopefully, everyone will now download it from elsewhere, read it, and say "You can do That with Android?!? Wow, I can't do that on my piece of cr@p idud!" They'll find plenty of reasons to.
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Sorry, but I kind of agree with their stance. They don't want to advertise a rival product on their product.
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Should a maker of TVs build in software to prevent the adverts of other makers of TVs from being shown on their TVs?
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Electron Shepherd wrote:
Censorship is when you are prevented from reading it. This is completely different.
Denying you access to something doesn't prevent you from reading it? A curious viewpoint.
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1. Go to your local baker or butcher 2. Try to buy the latest best-selling novel 3. When the baker / butcher says they don't sell it, accuse them of censorship Important point: It's available elsewhere
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1. Go to your local baker or butcher 2. Try to buy the latest best-selling novel 3. When the baker / butcher says they don't sell it, accuse them of censorship Important point: It's available elsewhere
Are you somehow suffering from the delusion that the remit of bakers and butchers is to DELIVER INFORMATION?
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Are you somehow suffering from the delusion that the remit of bakers and butchers is to DELIVER INFORMATION?
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Mark Wallace wrote:
Are you somehow suffering from the delusion that the remit of bakers and butchers is to DELIVER INFORMATION?
No, I'm not. Are you somehow suffering from the delusion that a company cannot decide what it does and doesn't sell? Apple have made a commercial decision not to sell something. That's their right. It's a commercial decision. It is not censorship.
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1. Go to your local baker or butcher 2. Try to buy the latest best-selling novel 3. When the baker / butcher says they don't sell it, accuse them of censorship Important point: It's available elsewhere
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One company deciding not to sell one publication is not censorship.
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Sorry, but I kind of agree with their stance. They don't want to advertise a rival product on their product.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
They don't want to advertise a rival product on their product.
It's not *their* product, after I buy it, it's MY product, and I decide what I subscribe to in it. If you buy a Samsung TV, would it be left to Samsung to decide if or not to display a Panasonic TV advert in it? I've paid for the TV, so I'll watch whatever I want to in it. [Add] Just noticed someone else said the same thing! [/Add] Surprisingly, they'll get away with all this crap, because apple fans are complete imbeciles.
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One of the many reasons I would never buy anything like an IPhone or IPad, because Apple are such pigs. I would also never buy anything with Android on it, because despite Android being Linux based a lot of devices with Android on are so restrictive, which I would find really irritating.
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Lloyd Atkinson wrote:
One of the many reasons I would never buy anything like an IPhone or IPad, because Apple are such pigs.
Completely agreed!
Lloyd Atkinson wrote:
I would also never buy anything with Android on it, because despite Android being Linux based a lot of devices with Android on are so restrictive, which I would find really irritating.
Root the damn thing! :)
It was ever thus, the Neophiles will always rush out and get 'The Latest Thing' at a high price and with all the inherent faults - Dalek Dave.
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One company deciding not to sell one publication is not censorship.
Maybe not, I wasn't saying it is, though if I think about it this situation is a little suspicious. It seems to me like they specifically crafted a busyness model that would make their censorship "technically not censorship" - in other words, they found a loophole.
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http://www.reghardware.com/2010/11/29/apple_vs_android_on_ipad/ Yeah, Apple, you're so "nice" and "friendly" with your roundy corners and funky ads. I think this is unacceptable. It's taking things too far by half.
Isn't the main problem with Apple's rejection of apps that they don't tell you why they did so, and it often seems arbitrary? I think the author here is assuming it was rejected because of the content, but it's possible his app looks like garbage, violates some dictated iOS UI standard or his icon isn't shiny enough. I bet Apple caves to the bad press (if it's anywhere other than here) and allows the thing, saying, "See? It's crap!" Just guessing. I just want to make sure we label Apple evil for the right reasons.
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Should a maker of TVs build in software to prevent the adverts of other makers of TVs from being shown on their TVs?
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
What about ITV advertising BBC? That's more the spirit of why I can see there point.
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What about ITV advertising BBC? That's more the spirit of why I can see there point.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
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Mark Wallace wrote:
When did censoring the material that people are allowed to read go from being totally unacceptable behaviour to good corporate practice?
They aren't censoring it, they are saying they don't want to sell it. Censorship is when you are prevented from reading it. This is completely different.
Since Apple has a true monopoly on the selling, it's a distinction without a difference.
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Since Apple has a true monopoly on the selling, it's a distinction without a difference.
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Since Apple has a true monopoly on the selling
Well, yes, apart from the other places you can buy the magazine.
From The Register:
Android Magasinet launched in Denmark on 11 November as a bi-monthly paper title
My Danish is pretty weak, so I can't read the original article, but I would imaging it's also available via the Android App Store?
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Lloyd Atkinson wrote:
One of the many reasons I would never buy anything like an IPhone or IPad, because Apple are such pigs.
Completely agreed!
Lloyd Atkinson wrote:
I would also never buy anything with Android on it, because despite Android being Linux based a lot of devices with Android on are so restrictive, which I would find really irritating.
Root the damn thing! :)
It was ever thus, the Neophiles will always rush out and get 'The Latest Thing' at a high price and with all the inherent faults - Dalek Dave.
I have an IPod Nano, but that's a lot different to the other Apple stuff (eg, it's actually good).
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Root the damn thing!
I could, but it still wouldn't feel the same as for example, installing Android on it entirely from scratch with no manafacturers crapware on it.
See if you can crack this: fb29a481781fe9b3fb8de57cda45fbef
The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."