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GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?
- giff
- jiff
- never thought of it
- whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
- who gives a spit
Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server
<edit>Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...</edit>(I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)(* stack overflow)
modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM
Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?
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Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?
PNG is pronouned ping, according to the libpng site on png's history[^]. In fact, they even include "unambiguous pronunciation" in the PNG feature list :laugh:
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PNG is pronouned ping, according to the libpng site on png's history[^]. In fact, they even include "unambiguous pronunciation" in the PNG feature list :laugh:
Haha, awesome. Guess I prefer the incorrect pronunciation then (P-N-G).
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Haha, awesome. Guess I prefer the incorrect pronunciation then (P-N-G).
I looked around some more, and found that the authors of PNG were very specific:
No detail was too small for consideration in the authors' quest for a near-perfect image format; yea, verily, even the acronym and pronunciation were major topics of discussion. The reason, of course, is the GIF format; some pronounce it with a soft G like giraffe, some with a hard G like gift, and no one really knows what they're talking about. (For the record, the soft G is correct; it is how the author of the format pronounces it.) "PNG" is always spelled* "PNG" (or "Portable Network Graphics") and always pronounced "ping" in English, not "pinj" or "pee en gee" or any other multi-syllabic disaster. (For non-English speakers, the three-letter pronunciation is fine, however.) See the introduction to the PNG specification[^] (or the Scope section of the newer ISO/IEC/W3C version[^]) for the definitive statement on the matter. * Greg follows American English rules, but read spelt here if you "favour" the British "flavour." ;-)
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I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.
aspdotnetdev wrote:
I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?)
Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff". Just FYI :-) I am not aware of whether he pronounces gift as jift though.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?
- giff
- jiff
- never thought of it
- whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
- who gives a spit
Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server
<edit>Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...</edit>(I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)(* stack overflow)
modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM
Indivara wrote:
Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server
I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?
- giff
- jiff
- never thought of it
- whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
- who gives a spit
Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server
<edit>Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...</edit>(I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)(* stack overflow)
modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM
I always pronounce it as "hif"...
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Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?
pee-an-gee.
Watched code never compiles.
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GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?
- giff
- jiff
- never thought of it
- whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
- who gives a spit
Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server
<edit>Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...</edit>(I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)(* stack overflow)
modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM
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aspdotnetdev wrote:
I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?)
Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff". Just FYI :-) I am not aware of whether he pronounces gift as jift though.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff".
Wow, even the creator of the format pronounces it incorrectly. :doh:
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Indivara wrote:
Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server
I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)
Indivara wrote:
Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)
I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?
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I always pronounce it as "hif"...
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I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.
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No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").
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Indivara wrote:
Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)
I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?
- giff
- jiff
- never thought of it
- whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
- who gives a spit
Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server
<edit>Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...</edit>(I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)(* stack overflow)
modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM
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No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").
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GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?
- giff
- jiff
- never thought of it
- whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
- who gives a spit
Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server
<edit>Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...</edit>(I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)(* stack overflow)
modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM
GIF: Giraffe SQL: Squirrel Of course I have to be a little careful about where I use my regular terms, as some might thing I'm a little strange. Like if they caught me saying that I'd put some giraffes in my squirrel database.
My current favourite phrase: I've seen better!
-SK Genius