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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Haha, awesome. Guess I prefer the incorrect pronunciation then (P-N-G).

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    Daniel Grunwald
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    I looked around some more, and found that the authors of PNG were very specific:

    No detail was too small for consideration in the authors' quest for a near-perfect image format; yea, verily, even the acronym and pronunciation were major topics of discussion. The reason, of course, is the GIF format; some pronounce it with a soft G like giraffe, some with a hard G like gift, and no one really knows what they're talking about. (For the record, the soft G is correct; it is how the author of the format pronounces it.) "PNG" is always spelled* "PNG" (or "Portable Network Graphics") and always pronounced "ping" in English, not "pinj" or "pee en gee" or any other multi-syllabic disaster. (For non-English speakers, the three-letter pronunciation is fine, however.) See the introduction to the PNG specification[^] (or the Scope section of the newer ISO/IEC/W3C version[^]) for the definitive statement on the matter. * Greg follows American English rules, but read spelt here if you "favour" the British "flavour." ;-)

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.

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      Nish Nishant
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      aspdotnetdev wrote:

      I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?)

      Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff". Just FYI :-) I am not aware of whether he pronounces gift as jift though.

      Regards, Nish


      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      • I Indivara

        GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

        1. giff
        2. jiff
        3. never thought of it
        4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
        5. who gives a spit

        Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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        Nish Nishant
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        Indivara wrote:

        Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server

        I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

        Regards, Nish


        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

          1. giff
          2. jiff
          3. never thought of it
          4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
          5. who gives a spit

          Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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          Fernando A Gomez F
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          I always pronounce it as "hif"...

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          • A AspDotNetDev

            Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?

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            Maximilien
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            pee-an-gee.

            Watched code never compiles.

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            • I Indivara

              GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

              1. giff
              2. jiff
              3. never thought of it
              4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
              5. who gives a spit

              Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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              LloydA111
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              I always say it as G (gap) I (gap) F.


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              • N Nish Nishant

                aspdotnetdev wrote:

                I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?)

                Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff". Just FYI :-) I am not aware of whether he pronounces gift as jift though.

                Regards, Nish


                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                AspDotNetDev
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                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff".

                Wow, even the creator of the format pronounces it incorrectly. :doh:

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Indivara wrote:

                  Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server

                  I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                  Regards, Nish


                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  Indivara
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                  Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

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                    Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Indivara wrote:

                    Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

                    I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.

                    Regards, Nish


                    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?

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                      Indivara
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                      I never knew that it could be read as ping, I say P - N - G. Same with SQL - learned from books, and so did everyone else around me. GIF was jiff (imitating others)

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                      • F Fernando A Gomez F

                        I always pronounce it as "hif"...

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                        Indivara
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                        Why? Is your name read Homez? (serious question)

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                        • A AspDotNetDev

                          I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.

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                          Indivara
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                          That argument doesn't work, there is giant, Gillian (JIH-lee-uhn) etc :)

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                          • I Indivara

                            Why? Is your name read Homez? (serious question)

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                            Fernando A Gomez F
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                            No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").

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                            • N Nish Nishant

                              Indivara wrote:

                              Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

                              I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.

                              Regards, Nish


                              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              Indivara
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                              That's a good idea, avoid the article and let the reader deal with it :-D

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                              • I Indivara

                                GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                                1. giff
                                2. jiff
                                3. never thought of it
                                4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                                5. who gives a spit

                                Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                                Rick York
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                                I say either SQL or squeal.

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                                • F Fernando A Gomez F

                                  No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").

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                                  Indivara
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                                  Interesting, didn't know that G had another pronunciation in Spanish.

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                                  • I Indivara

                                    GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                                    1. giff
                                    2. jiff
                                    3. never thought of it
                                    4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                                    5. who gives a spit

                                    Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                                    modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                                    GIF: Giraffe SQL: Squirrel Of course I have to be a little careful about where I use my regular terms, as some might thing I'm a little strange. Like if they caught me saying that I'd put some giraffes in my squirrel database.

                                    My current favourite phrase: I've seen better!

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                                    • I Indivara

                                      GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                                      1. giff
                                      2. jiff
                                      3. never thought of it
                                      4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                                      5. who gives a spit

                                      Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      1 and 5 (6?) SQL (officially pronounced /ˌɛskjuːˈɛl/ like "S-Q-L" (but that's Wikipedia ::shrug:: ) "an SQL" (or "a squirrel") How about XML? I like to pronounce it "shimmel". :-D

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                                      • I Indivara

                                        GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                                        1. giff
                                        2. jiff
                                        3. never thought of it
                                        4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                                        5. who gives a spit

                                        Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                                        RaviBee
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                                        I've always said "jiff" and "sequel". /ravi

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                                        • N Nish Nishant

                                          Indivara wrote:

                                          Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server

                                          I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                          I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                                          That's cause they're all twats. It's S Q L, three letters, no more, no less.

                                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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