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  • I Indivara

    Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

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    Nish Nishant
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    Indivara wrote:

    Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

    I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.

    Regards, Nish


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    • A AspDotNetDev

      Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?

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      Indivara
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      I never knew that it could be read as ping, I say P - N - G. Same with SQL - learned from books, and so did everyone else around me. GIF was jiff (imitating others)

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      • F Fernando A Gomez F

        I always pronounce it as "hif"...

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        Indivara
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        Why? Is your name read Homez? (serious question)

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          I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.

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          Indivara
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          That argument doesn't work, there is giant, Gillian (JIH-lee-uhn) etc :)

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          • I Indivara

            Why? Is your name read Homez? (serious question)

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            Fernando A Gomez F
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            No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").

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              Indivara wrote:

              Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

              I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.

              Regards, Nish


              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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              Indivara
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              That's a good idea, avoid the article and let the reader deal with it :-D

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              • I Indivara

                GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                1. giff
                2. jiff
                3. never thought of it
                4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                5. who gives a spit

                Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                I say either SQL or squeal.

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                • F Fernando A Gomez F

                  No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").

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                  Indivara
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                  Interesting, didn't know that G had another pronunciation in Spanish.

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                  • I Indivara

                    GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                    1. giff
                    2. jiff
                    3. never thought of it
                    4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                    5. who gives a spit

                    Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

                    (* stack overflow)

                    modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                    Anthony Mushrow
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                    GIF: Giraffe SQL: Squirrel Of course I have to be a little careful about where I use my regular terms, as some might thing I'm a little strange. Like if they caught me saying that I'd put some giraffes in my squirrel database.

                    My current favourite phrase: I've seen better!

                    -SK Genius

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                    • I Indivara

                      GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                      1. giff
                      2. jiff
                      3. never thought of it
                      4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                      5. who gives a spit

                      Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

                      (* stack overflow)

                      modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      1 and 5 (6?) SQL (officially pronounced /ˌɛskjuːˈɛl/ like "S-Q-L" (but that's Wikipedia ::shrug:: ) "an SQL" (or "a squirrel") How about XML? I like to pronounce it "shimmel". :-D

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                      • I Indivara

                        GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                        1. giff
                        2. jiff
                        3. never thought of it
                        4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                        5. who gives a spit

                        Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

                        (* stack overflow)

                        modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                        RaviBee
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                        I've always said "jiff" and "sequel". /ravi

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                          Indivara wrote:

                          Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server

                          I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                          Regards, Nish


                          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                          That's cause they're all twats. It's S Q L, three letters, no more, no less.

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            Haha, awesome. Guess I prefer the incorrect pronunciation then (P-N-G).

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                            Abhinav S
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                            You might want to check with the inventor of the png format. :)

                            The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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                            • I Indivara

                              GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                              1. giff
                              2. jiff
                              3. never thought of it
                              4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                              5. who gives a spit

                              Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

                              (* stack overflow)

                              modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                              I pronounce jif as jif, and gif as gif. That way, people will know whether I'm talking about gif files or jif files.

                              Indivara wrote:

                              when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...

                              What a ridiculous question. "What are the pronunciation rules for the English language?" It depends on whether you pronounce it as an initialism or as a acronym.

                              A little common sense goes a lot further than a lot of cliquey nonsense.

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                              • I Indivara

                                Interesting, didn't know that G had another pronunciation in Spanish.

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                                Indivara wrote:

                                Interesting, didn't know that G had another pronunciation in Spanish.

                                The same rule applies in Italian, where the C has the same e/i rule: "Sci" is pronounced "she", and "schi" is pronounced "ski".

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  I pronounce jif as jif, and gif as gif. That way, people will know whether I'm talking about gif files or jif files.

                                  Indivara wrote:

                                  when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...

                                  What a ridiculous question. "What are the pronunciation rules for the English language?" It depends on whether you pronounce it as an initialism or as a acronym.

                                  A little common sense goes a lot further than a lot of cliquey nonsense.

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                                  Syed Wayez Ahmed
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                                  If Gif can be pronounced as JIF then i can call my colig JAY as GAY? what say?

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                                  • S Syed Wayez Ahmed

                                    If Gif can be pronounced as JIF then i can call my colig JAY as GAY? what say?

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                                    Syed Wayez Ahmed wrote:

                                    If Gif can be pronounced as JIF then i can call my colig JAY as GAY? what say?

                                    I'd say that if you mispronounce either, you should expect a smack in the mouth. Going by the voting, it appears that people don't like being told that they're behaving like cliquey idiots. Well, the day I need the comradeship of people who are only half a step up from marketing cretins is the day I'll hang up my mouse.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    • I Indivara

                                      That argument doesn't work, there is giant, Gillian (JIH-lee-uhn) etc :)

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                                      AspDotNetDev
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                                      The only word that starts with gif is "gift". It is the best word to set a precedent for how to pronounce "GIF". :-D

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                                        Syed Wayez Ahmed wrote:

                                        If Gif can be pronounced as JIF then i can call my colig JAY as GAY? what say?

                                        I'd say that if you mispronounce either, you should expect a smack in the mouth. Going by the voting, it appears that people don't like being told that they're behaving like cliquey idiots. Well, the day I need the comradeship of people who are only half a step up from marketing cretins is the day I'll hang up my mouse.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        Indivara
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                                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                                        Going by the voting

                                        Not me, gave you a compensating 5, though I have no idea what you are talking about. jif files? ;P

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                                        • A Anthony Mushrow

                                          GIF: Giraffe SQL: Squirrel Of course I have to be a little careful about where I use my regular terms, as some might thing I'm a little strange. Like if they caught me saying that I'd put some giraffes in my squirrel database.

                                          My current favourite phrase: I've seen better!

                                          -SK Genius

                                          Source Indexing and Symbol Servers[^]

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                                          Indivara
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                                          That's nice, then PostgreSQL will be post gray squirrel, mysql will be my squirrel. You'll have to be even more careful with this, or it will get you certified even faster Client: So what should I use to store our client data? SK Genius: Oh, you can use my squirrel Client: :omg: :wtf:

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