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  • R R Erasmus

    The first letter doesn't start with a C. That is I love any syntax of a programming language that starts with a C.

    "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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    KP Lee
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    You love COBOL!!!???!!! Well, there's a first time for everything. OK, I'm kidding, I've met people who like COBOL. (Also, read about one in this thread.)

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      You love COBOL!!!???!!! Well, there's a first time for everything. OK, I'm kidding, I've met people who like COBOL. (Also, read about one in this thread.)

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      R Erasmus
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      I was waiting for someone to point that out, ;-) ok, let me rephrase:

      string language = getLanguage();

      if ((language.Length < 4) &&
      ((language.StartsWith('C') == true) ||
      (language.StartsWith('c') == true)))
      {
      MessageBox.Show("I like this shit!! ;-)");
      }

      "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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      • R R Erasmus

        I was waiting for someone to point that out, ;-) ok, let me rephrase:

        string language = getLanguage();

        if ((language.Length < 4) &&
        ((language.StartsWith('C') == true) ||
        (language.StartsWith('c') == true)))
        {
        MessageBox.Show("I like this shit!! ;-)");
        }

        "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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        KP Lee
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        #42

        CBL? That would be COBOL without OO design. (Is that redundant?)

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP
          1. The intellisense refuses to "let go" unless I tap the Escape key 1) Syntax highlighting sucks. In C#, all types are highlighted - in VB, only intrinisc types are highlighted. 2) It's VB. 3) There are no automatic code formatting options like we get with C#

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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          eslsys
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          #43

          |-O

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          • I Ian Shlasko
            1. Extra keywords... List(Of Integer) vs. List<int> 5) It's VB. 6) There is NOOOOOOO.... Rule 6 :)

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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            Fabio Franco
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            #44
            1. There is Rule 6 8) Rule 6 is on Rule 9 9) It's VB 10) Option Explicit 11) Option Strict
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            • J Jason Christian

              Funny - those all sound like problems with your VB IDE (granted, not a lot of options there), not the language itself. (Which has plenty of reasons to hate it).

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              Michael Kingsford Gray
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              Such as?

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP
                1. The intellisense refuses to "let go" unless I tap the Escape key 1) Syntax highlighting sucks. In C#, all types are highlighted - in VB, only intrinisc types are highlighted. 2) It's VB. 3) There are no automatic code formatting options like we get with C#

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                -----
                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                Michael Kingsford Gray
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                #46

                Well, don't use it then. Duh!

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP
                  1. The intellisense refuses to "let go" unless I tap the Escape key 1) Syntax highlighting sucks. In C#, all types are highlighted - in VB, only intrinisc types are highlighted. 2) It's VB. 3) There are no automatic code formatting options like we get with C#

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  AMAMH
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                  I hate it because it's VB. let's explain a bit: I hate VB mainly because morons use VB :^) ....

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                  • R R Erasmus

                    I was waiting for someone to point that out, ;-) ok, let me rephrase:

                    string language = getLanguage();

                    if ((language.Length < 4) &&
                    ((language.StartsWith('C') == true) ||
                    (language.StartsWith('c') == true)))
                    {
                    MessageBox.Show("I like this shit!! ;-)");
                    }

                    "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                    Dan Neely
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                    #48

                    So you like C, and... ...not "C#" or "C Sharp", not "c++" or "C Plus Plus".... what else matches?

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      So you like C, and... ...not "C#" or "C Sharp", not "c++" or "C Plus Plus".... what else matches?

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      R Erasmus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #49

                      Maybe I didn't express myself better, Let me try again:

                      if ((language == 'c') ||
                      (language == 'C') ||
                      (language == "c#") ||
                      (language == "C#") ||
                      (language == "c++") ||
                      (language == "C++"))
                      {
                      MessageBox.Show("Good choice of language!!");
                      }
                      else
                      {
                      MessageBox.Show("Enter the abbreviated programming language name and if you did, I'm sorry, your language sux.")
                      }

                      "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        Yep, VB3 was great (I never used VB1 or 2)... Before then, I had stuck to console programming because... Let's face it... I was lazy. Then VB4 came along, and that was great... Then VB5 came along, finally adding OOP (Kinda... Well, almost... Eh) Then VB6 came along, and I started to wonder. Then VB.NET came along, and I cheered. Then I looked over at C#, and thought, "Why am I still writing VB code?"

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                        gritter
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                        You forgot VB for DOS, with its ansi controls.

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                        • I Ian Shlasko
                          1. Extra keywords... List(Of Integer) vs. List<int> 5) It's VB. 6) There is NOOOOOOO.... Rule 6 :)

                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                          David_Bass
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                          In the other languages the programmers are more than happy to share information. With VB programmers everything is obscure and in some secret code. They act as if they are giving away national secrets if you ask them a question. The best way to show you are knowledgible is to share it. I share mine without any hassles or ridicule. If someome wants to learn I'm all in. VB programmers hide in the corner whispering so their secrets don't fall into the wrong hand. Sheesh!!!

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP
                            1. The intellisense refuses to "let go" unless I tap the Escape key 1) Syntax highlighting sucks. In C#, all types are highlighted - in VB, only intrinisc types are highlighted. 2) It's VB. 3) There are no automatic code formatting options like we get with C#

                            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                            agolddog
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                            Don't forget the craptastic, "You have to actually tell the compiler to shortcut boolean logic with AndAlso and OrElse." Also that you have to call a method Function or Sub depending whether it returns something (or not). When I took my current position, I thought, "It's the problems that make the work interesting, and the language won't bother me too much." By now, I'm out looking for something in C#.

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                              Don't forget the craptastic, "You have to actually tell the compiler to shortcut boolean logic with AndAlso and OrElse." Also that you have to call a method Function or Sub depending whether it returns something (or not). When I took my current position, I thought, "It's the problems that make the work interesting, and the language won't bother me too much." By now, I'm out looking for something in C#.

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                              realJSOP
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                              Had to ask you about your user ID. Are you a golden retriever fan?

                              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                              • M Michael Kingsford Gray

                                Well, don't use it then. Duh!

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                                realJSOP
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                                #54

                                Easy to say when you're free to look for other work. For reasons I've already gone over, I don't have that option until late next year.

                                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                • I Ian Shlasko

                                  Yep, VB3 was great (I never used VB1 or 2)... Before then, I had stuck to console programming because... Let's face it... I was lazy. Then VB4 came along, and that was great... Then VB5 came along, finally adding OOP (Kinda... Well, almost... Eh) Then VB6 came along, and I started to wonder. Then VB.NET came along, and I cheered. Then I looked over at C#, and thought, "Why am I still writing VB code?"

                                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                  Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                  Warpfield
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                                  Anyone remember VB1 for DOS? I did quite a bit of stuff on the old 286's in that language. Language?!? All it was a wrapper around Quick Basic.

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP
                                    1. The intellisense refuses to "let go" unless I tap the Escape key 1) Syntax highlighting sucks. In C#, all types are highlighted - in VB, only intrinisc types are highlighted. 2) It's VB. 3) There are no automatic code formatting options like we get with C#

                                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                    -----
                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                    K Lynn
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                                    C# is the VB for developers that enjoy writing .NET code using the (arcane) C/C++ syntax! Just let it go and enjoy your preferred language.

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                                    • D David_Bass

                                      In the other languages the programmers are more than happy to share information. With VB programmers everything is obscure and in some secret code. They act as if they are giving away national secrets if you ask them a question. The best way to show you are knowledgible is to share it. I share mine without any hassles or ridicule. If someome wants to learn I'm all in. VB programmers hide in the corner whispering so their secrets don't fall into the wrong hand. Sheesh!!!

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                                      DavidSherwood
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                                      #57

                                      The reason VB'ers don't share is because of people like you. We're afraid to reveal that we write in VB (and feel guilty that we like it).So If you ask us for a sample code, we may try to quickly convert it to C#. But then you would find us out because we would inevitably make a syntax error.

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                                        The reason VB'ers don't share is because of people like you. We're afraid to reveal that we write in VB (and feel guilty that we like it).So If you ask us for a sample code, we may try to quickly convert it to C#. But then you would find us out because we would inevitably make a syntax error.

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                                        David_Bass
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                                        Actually, that is the best answer I have ever gotten :)

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                                        • I Ian Shlasko

                                          Yep, VB3 was great (I never used VB1 or 2)... Before then, I had stuck to console programming because... Let's face it... I was lazy. Then VB4 came along, and that was great... Then VB5 came along, finally adding OOP (Kinda... Well, almost... Eh) Then VB6 came along, and I started to wonder. Then VB.NET came along, and I cheered. Then I looked over at C#, and thought, "Why am I still writing VB code?"

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                          Kieryn Phipps
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                                          Microsoft should have just called C# "VB7" and never invented VB.NET. Old school VB programmers like myself would have naturally moved to the new "C-style" VB language long ago, and we would all be better off. Why they would keep perpetuating this duality of quality on the same framework I have no idea...

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