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  • M Member 96

    Ideally you would *want* to make *something*, that would be your passion and the language and tools to do it would all be incidental and learned along the way to making something you really like and believe in. Personally I find it really easy to learn stuff when it is in aid of whatever I'm actually interested in accomplishing.


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    John C wrote:

    Ideally you would *want* to make *something*, that would be your passion and the language and tools to do it would all be incidental and learned along the way to making something you really like and believe in.

    Well said.  :thumbsup: I don't know anyone who decided to become a software engineer because they "hoped it would pay well." /ravi

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      He said he wanted to learn something from the ground up. Can't get anymore low-level than assembler.

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      100100101010101... How's that for a bit more low level.

      I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

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        Not when I play it. I like it distorted.

        I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

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        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        Not when I play it. I like it distorted.

        Those are just, ummm, harmonics! :) Marc

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          100100101010101... How's that for a bit more low level.

          I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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          Not good enough. You have manipulate the CPU with a AA battery and some wires on the leads of the CPU. Use a volt meter to check the results.

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            Learn an instrument. The language of music is purest. :) Marc

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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            The language of music

            would that be C# or F#? :)

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              Not good enough. You have manipulate the CPU with a AA battery and some wires on the leads of the CPU. Use a volt meter to check the results.

              Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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              You win.

              I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                100100101010101... How's that for a bit more low level.

                I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                fjdiewornncalwe
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                Sorry. Too many bits for my liking...

                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                  You win.

                  I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  Gracious as ever, huh Pete? Take a 5 just for that :-)

                  Regards, Nish


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                    Gracious as ever, huh Pete? Take a 5 just for that :-)

                    Regards, Nish


                    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    Thanks Nish. He deserved it - he did top my answer. I believe in rewarding positive behaviour.

                    I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                    • L Luc Pattyn

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      The language of music

                      would that be C# or F#? :)

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                      Luc Pattyn wrote:

                      would that be C# or F#?

                      Db[^] Marc

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Luc Pattyn wrote:

                        would that be C# or F#?

                        Db[^] Marc

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                        I'm afraid I missed that before. Would I still be on time when I study it now, or has its future already passed? :)

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                          Not when I play it. I like it distorted.

                          I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

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                            I'm afraid I missed that before. Would I still be on time when I study it now, or has its future already passed? :)

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                            Luc Pattyn wrote:

                            Would I still be on time when I study it now, or has its future already passed?

                            We're working on version 2^n (codenamed two'to'n), so there's still time. :) Marc

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                              Luc Pattyn wrote:

                              Would I still be on time when I study it now, or has its future already passed?

                              We're working on version 2^n (codenamed two'to'n), so there's still time. :) Marc

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                              OK, I'll try and catch up right away. Thanks. :)

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                              • M Member 96

                                Ideally you would *want* to make *something*, that would be your passion and the language and tools to do it would all be incidental and learned along the way to making something you really like and believe in. Personally I find it really easy to learn stuff when it is in aid of whatever I'm actually interested in accomplishing.


                                There is no failure only feedback

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                                Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                So very true! 5+

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                                  John C wrote:

                                  Ideally you would *want* to make *something*, that would be your passion and the language and tools to do it would all be incidental and learned along the way to making something you really like and believe in.

                                  Well said.  :thumbsup: I don't know anyone who decided to become a software engineer because they "hoped it would pay well." /ravi

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                                  Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                  I don't know anyone who decided to become a software engineer because they "hoped it would pay well."

                                  .... um .... :~ .... I did. I put aside my aspirations to be a professional mattress tester (and sleep all day) or professional gamer (and play games all day) or bar tender (and drink all day) with the thought that maybe one day I will need a steady income. Seriously, when I had to choose a major (didn't even want to go to college) I had only two 'A' grades. One was studio art, and the other was C programming. I figured this would pay more. However, many years later, I'm trying again to figure out how to escape this cubicle :mad: Edit: Multiple edits because I can't spell after multiple 'on call' situations last night :confused:

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                                    In my experience you will do far better if you have problem and are looking for a solution than if you have a solution looking for a problem, unless it's a purely academic exercise. If it's academic, then study and learn whatever you want. If it supposed to be practical, figure out what problem you want to solve, then learn whatever it takes to solve it.

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                                    You can't solve the problem if you don't know the question :laugh:

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                      I don't know anyone who decided to become a software engineer because they "hoped it would pay well."

                                      .... um .... :~ .... I did. I put aside my aspirations to be a professional mattress tester (and sleep all day) or professional gamer (and play games all day) or bar tender (and drink all day) with the thought that maybe one day I will need a steady income. Seriously, when I had to choose a major (didn't even want to go to college) I had only two 'A' grades. One was studio art, and the other was C programming. I figured this would pay more. However, many years later, I'm trying again to figure out how to escape this cubicle :mad: Edit: Multiple edits because I can't spell after multiple 'on call' situations last night :confused:

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                                      I'm sure you're not in the minority but maybe it's just prejudice but I can't see anyone creating anything truly great or wonderful if their only doing it for the money, then again in a big shop I guess there isn't a lot of opportunity to do anything great anyway being just a big cog in a development machine.


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                                        I'm sure you're not in the minority but maybe it's just prejudice but I can't see anyone creating anything truly great or wonderful if their only doing it for the money, then again in a big shop I guess there isn't a lot of opportunity to do anything great anyway being just a big cog in a development machine.


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                                        I guess thats the difference eh, most people I know don't want to create something great or wonderful, but just want to make it to the next pay day and feed their kids and still have somewhere to live. The sad part is I am sure they DID want to make something great and wonderful in whatever career they chose, but have had their spirits ground down by decades of debt and week-to-week living.

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                                          I guess thats the difference eh, most people I know don't want to create something great or wonderful, but just want to make it to the next pay day and feed their kids and still have somewhere to live. The sad part is I am sure they DID want to make something great and wonderful in whatever career they chose, but have had their spirits ground down by decades of debt and week-to-week living.

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                                          Phil Martin... wrote:

                                          most people I know don't want to create something great or wonderful, but just want to make it to the next pay day and feed their kids and still have somewhere to live.

                                          Yup, same thing goes on here as well and everywhere I'm sure. Most of those people that just want to make it to the next payday are people who chose (consciously or not) to live beyond their means and are paying for it year after crushing year. The real kicker is that there is a great deal of money to be made in creating something great that you truly enjoy doing and everyone would do well to take a step back and look at their lives and decide if they'd rather focus their energy towards owning cool stuff or making cool stuff.


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