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  • W wizardzz

    I started to check out StyleCop this morning. I'm not going to rant about every other rule it follows, but has anyone noticed that the file **.Designer.cs violates:

    SA1201: All methods must be placed after all fields.

    Windows creates this file. I think I'm done with StyleCop.

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    Rob Philpott
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    Is that the latest incarnation of FXCOP? Perfect tool if you want lots of criticism of perfectly valid code if so.

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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    • S Slacker007

      I never understood the need to for formatting software (I think that is what StyleCop is right?).

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      Nish Nishant
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      Not so much formatting as code styles and guidelines, like variable naming, comments, order of fields, methods etc.

      Regards, Nish


      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      • S Slacker007

        I never understood the need to for formatting software (I think that is what StyleCop is right?).

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        wizardzz
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        It was recommended to me in a previous post regarding a coworker's use of under_score instead of underScore in the middle of variables. Someone recommended that I try StyleCop to settle our convention disputes.

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        • R Rob Philpott

          Is that the latest incarnation of FXCOP? Perfect tool if you want lots of criticism of perfectly valid code if so.

          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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          Nish Nishant
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          No, FxCop and StyleCop are different. StyleCop analyzes your source code, whereas FxCop does static analysis on your compiled assembly. Normally you are supposed to use them together, so they complement each other.

          Regards, Nish


          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          • W wizardzz

            It was recommended to me in a previous post regarding a coworker's use of under_score instead of underScore in the middle of variables. Someone recommended that I try StyleCop to settle our convention disputes.

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            Rob Philpott
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            You really don't need a tool to police that. The accepted convention is camel case for variables, so under_score is simply wrong. Suggest (s)he reads a book or something.

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            • N Nish Nishant

              No, FxCop and StyleCop are different. StyleCop analyzes your source code, whereas FxCop does static analysis on your compiled assembly. Normally you are supposed to use them together, so they complement each other.

              Regards, Nish


              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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              Rob Philpott
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              Oh, ok. In which case, I hate *both* of them.

              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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              • R Rob Philpott

                Oh, ok. In which case, I hate *both* of them.

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                Nish Nishant
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                :laugh:

                Regards, Nish


                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                • W wizardzz

                  It was recommended to me in a previous post regarding a coworker's use of under_score instead of underScore in the middle of variables. Someone recommended that I try StyleCop to settle our convention disputes.

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                  moon_stick
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                  How about the MS Naming Guidelines[^]??

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                  • S Slacker007

                    I never understood the need to for formatting software (I think that is what StyleCop is right?).

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                    MrSpackle
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                    I sometimes feel alone in this opinion, but I believe that source code readability is a very, very, close second place to code correctness. Anyone else?

                    "Why look within yourself for THE TRUTH, when you're the one who's confused in the first place?" Mr. Spackle

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                    • W wizardzz

                      I started to check out StyleCop this morning. I'm not going to rant about every other rule it follows, but has anyone noticed that the file **.Designer.cs violates:

                      SA1201: All methods must be placed after all fields.

                      Windows creates this file. I think I'm done with StyleCop.

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                      Ravi Sant
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                      i hate the need for styling in first place.

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                      • R Rob Philpott

                        You really don't need a tool to police that. The accepted convention is camel case for variables, so under_score is simply wrong. Suggest (s)he reads a book or something.

                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                        Slacker007
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                        Rob Philpott wrote:

                        The accepted convention is camel case for variables, so under_score is simply wrong.

                        That is your opinion. Microsoft begs to differ with their internal coding practices. I thought we killed this bird a few days ago.

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                        • M MrSpackle

                          I sometimes feel alone in this opinion, but I believe that source code readability is a very, very, close second place to code correctness. Anyone else?

                          "Why look within yourself for THE TRUTH, when you're the one who's confused in the first place?" Mr. Spackle

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                          Chris Losinger
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                          me too. which is why i think LINQ is crap.

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                          • S Slacker007

                            Rob Philpott wrote:

                            The accepted convention is camel case for variables, so under_score is simply wrong.

                            That is your opinion. Microsoft begs to differ with their internal coding practices. I thought we killed this bird a few days ago.

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                            Rob Philpott
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                            Mine and everyone else I know - yes.

                            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                            • R Ravi Sant

                              i hate the need for styling in first place.

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                              wizardzz
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                              I'll admit that I'm not a fan of all styling conventions, and I think when working on the same project as others, it's nice to just stay consistent. But the underscore in variable names is killing me, I didn't think it would bug me so much.

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                              • N Nish Nishant

                                Not so much formatting as code styles and guidelines, like variable naming, comments, order of fields, methods etc.

                                Regards, Nish


                                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                Slacker007
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                                Thanks for the correction. :)

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                                  Thanks for the correction. :)

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  No problem :)

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                  • R Rob Philpott

                                    Mine and everyone else I know - yes.

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                    Electron Shepherd
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                                    Since you like it, what's the rationale for starting just the first word with a lower case letter? Why is customerAccountNumber better than CustomerAccountNumber or strCustomerAccountNumber or lpszCustomerAccountNumber ?

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                                      Since you like it, what's the rationale for starting just the first word with a lower case letter? Why is customerAccountNumber better than CustomerAccountNumber or strCustomerAccountNumber or lpszCustomerAccountNumber ?

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                                      Rob Philpott
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                                      Who knows? The point is convention. You can tell at a glance what you're dealing with (local/member/property etc). And if we all do things the same way it makes it easier to understand each other's code. A good thing surely.

                                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                        StyleCop is meant to be used on user-written source files. Do not use it on auto-generated files :-)

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        realJSOP
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                                        Hmmm, I always thought StyleCop was intended for the garbage can...

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                                        • R Rob Philpott

                                          Who knows? The point is convention. You can tell at a glance what you're dealing with (local/member/property etc). And if we all do things the same way it makes it easier to understand each other's code. A good thing surely.

                                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                          Electron Shepherd
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                                          Rob Philpott wrote:

                                          Who knows? The point is convention.

                                          And that's my point. All you're saying is that being consistent is good, and being able to identify scope from name is good. But that's not a justification for using camel case. I've never seen a good reason why it's "better" than other naming standards, and I think it's worse. My deliberately chosen example is something that is conventionally called a number, but in the real world is very ofen a mixture of letters and numbers, and so has to be represented as a string. Using the camel case standard, you somethings can't infer data type from the name, which to me seems a backward step.

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