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Looking for a new hobbie, the most easy programming language for writing games?

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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    Basic (isn't that why they call it that?)

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    NormDroid
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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    Basic

    And that's what it is, all I suggest for this guy is to pick up a spade and do some trusty gardening.

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      XNA on Windows Phone 7.

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      I agree it would be fun, but not very practical. You'd only be able to use it on the emulator unless you got a phone, which is available from only one carrier for the time being. Not worth buying a new device or switching carriers. Also, from what I've seen the numbers don't look promising, Windows Phone 7 could go the way of the Kin, then you'd be stuck with a game no one can use and a device that isn't supported.


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        I agree it would be fun, but not very practical. You'd only be able to use it on the emulator unless you got a phone, which is available from only one carrier for the time being. Not worth buying a new device or switching carriers. Also, from what I've seen the numbers don't look promising, Windows Phone 7 could go the way of the Kin, then you'd be stuck with a game no one can use and a device that isn't supported.


        I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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        Nish Nishant
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        Mark Nischalke wrote:

        which is available from only one carrier for the time being

        :confused: ATT and T-Mobile have WP7 phones. Dell offers one too (unlocked I guess).

        Regards, Nish


        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          Mark Nischalke wrote:

          which is available from only one carrier for the time being

          :confused: ATT and T-Mobile have WP7 phones. Dell offers one too (unlocked I guess).

          Regards, Nish


          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          Windows Phone 7 devices are only available non-CDMA networks, just like iPhone. AT&T and T-Mobile are the same, T-Mobile is just the low end version.


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          • L LloydA111

            Cool :) I know someone who took a week off work to play black ops when it came out, all they did that week was play COD and sleep :laugh:


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            Regarding the in-game statistics three weeks ago about 15% of the world population has been killed in the COD servers/numbers wise/. For me it took me about 25 hours game time to get to this level.

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              Windows Phone 7 devices are only available non-CDMA networks, just like iPhone. AT&T and T-Mobile are the same, T-Mobile is just the low end version.


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              Nish Nishant
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              Ok, I've never used a CDMA phone. I guess you are on Sprint or Verizon then.

              Regards, Nish


              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                Ok, I've never used a CDMA phone. I guess you are on Sprint or Verizon then.

                Regards, Nish


                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                Yes, me and about 30 million more people than AT&T


                I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                  Yes, me and about 30 million more people than AT&T


                  I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                  Yeah I reckon it's safer to stick with the most popular providers then. Not that I've had bad service from ATT except in some really rural towns where I've lost 3G and sometimes even Edge.

                  Regards, Nish


                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  • S Single Step Debugger

                    I’m 48 level with 1800 kills, looking forward to enter the “prestige“ mode sometime this week. My amusement was caused from the usage of COD and VB in one sentence.

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                    Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                    My amusement was caused from the usage of COD and VB in one sentence.

                    That was meant for amusement. :)

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                      If you want to have real fun, may I recommend Unity[^]? There's a free version to play around with.

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                      Looks nice, i would give it a try. Thanks :thumbsup:

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                        Try gardening, best to do something more meaningful in life.

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                        Been there, done that! Believe me, that's the real reason i try software developing in the first place :laugh: At least having fun coding is more meaningful than been criticizing people around...

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                          I used to be a developer in VB [insert sarcastic note here!], and after a couple of years without coding, i feel my mind is getting slower. So i was thinking about a new hobby and start writing games, only to remember how good it felt to solve something and give some healthy work for my brain. I'm not thinking about fancy graphics and anything like that, just in learning the logic to implement some situations (turn by turn battles, etc.) Recommendations are welcome... :-D

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                            I agree it would be fun, but not very practical. You'd only be able to use it on the emulator unless you got a phone, which is available from only one carrier for the time being. Not worth buying a new device or switching carriers. Also, from what I've seen the numbers don't look promising, Windows Phone 7 could go the way of the Kin, then you'd be stuck with a game no one can use and a device that isn't supported.


                            I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                            Dan Neely
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                            2 carriers in the US. ATT and TMobile. CDMA support is expected in next months update which should get WP7 to at least 3 of the 4 major carriers (depending on how strong the Kin Grudges are).

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                              I used to be a developer in VB [insert sarcastic note here!], and after a couple of years without coding, i feel my mind is getting slower. So i was thinking about a new hobby and start writing games, only to remember how good it felt to solve something and give some healthy work for my brain. I'm not thinking about fancy graphics and anything like that, just in learning the logic to implement some situations (turn by turn battles, etc.) Recommendations are welcome... :-D

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                              XNA

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                                Yes, me and about 30 million more people than AT&T


                                I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                                Now start counting around the world and you'll notice how 30 million gets small compared to GSM.

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                                  I'll second a vote for XNA (though just for Windows, not for XBox or the Windows Phone 7). That may require you to learn C# (though it's very similar to VB.Net). And if you buy a USB wireless XBox controller, that makes it even more fun. I implemented controller logic for the OmniSnake pseudo-game I started making. Was pretty fun.

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                                  aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                  That may require you to learn C# (though it's very similar to VB.Net)

                                  :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: John Simmons is probably having a nerve attack just because of the fact that this sentence has been created. Of course, we are not talking about the .net API, but the language itself

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                                    I used to be a developer in VB [insert sarcastic note here!], and after a couple of years without coding, i feel my mind is getting slower. So i was thinking about a new hobby and start writing games, only to remember how good it felt to solve something and give some healthy work for my brain. I'm not thinking about fancy graphics and anything like that, just in learning the logic to implement some situations (turn by turn battles, etc.) Recommendations are welcome... :-D

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                                    It depends on what exactly you want to get. The domains of different languages overlap a lot our days. The easiest is JavaScript. You will be able to create games for modern (HTML5 capable) browsers, especially IE9. You will get some HTML/CSS understanding as a side effect, and even be able to do some generic computing and system administration with Windows Script Host. Look at Pirates Like Daisies for a game side example. Next is Python or Ruby. They are easy to learn, there are libraries that support game development to different extent (I guess Ruby + Shoes is the shortest way to a Hello World game here), and each has a personal endless universe of tools, frameworks, and applications waiting to be explored. The games will run on Windows, Mac, or Linux, with more learning - in a browser and on a server. The next is the good old (fading out?) Flash with its FLEX. Will run nearly everywhere, there are tons of flash games hanging there, but it is Flash and nothing more. Next is Java since it is the natural way to do games for Android. Next is C# and the XNA game studio. It is .NET and .NET is the door to Windows everything. The games will run on Windows, Windows phone 7, XBOX. The downside, according to my observations, is that if you try to get some results early, before getting proper understanding of the big picture, you will write funny architecturally unacceptable code and develop bad habits to fight with later. And yes, it is Microsoft owned world regardless all the Mono efforts. My heart lies with C#, but I already understand the big picture and I am optimistic. That is, I disbelieve that Windows Phone 7 will join KIN and take down Silverlight with it, which in turn will take down .NET, succeeding with the destruction Vista failed by narrow margin.

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                                      I'll second a vote for XNA (though just for Windows, not for XBox or the Windows Phone 7). That may require you to learn C# (though it's very similar to VB.Net). And if you buy a USB wireless XBox controller, that makes it even more fun. I implemented controller logic for the OmniSnake pseudo-game I started making. Was pretty fun.

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                                      I put a 3rd vote in for XNA there are so many how to videos, and such its easy to pick up and learn, heck for about 60 bucks you can grab a book at the store to walk you through about 3 games and get you a hands up on it. Depending on your flavor you can use XNA for the computer, for xbox 360 and a dumbed down version for Windows 7 phone. Key thing is its the same concept / language just different amounts of code libraries you have access to. Also for those tech people that don't read much WP7 coming to Verizon early next year, possibly as early as late Jan / Early Feb. Another possible option I have started picking up is Silverlight games, mainly for the cross platform option, and the web based hosting options. Same thing watch about 10 videos for about 1-2 hours worth of time and you can create everything from tetris to othello, from there you can start making your way into more compelling games. If you fall in love with it, there are a few physics and 3d code libraries available that will take your game to the next level. Heck with silverlight you can create basic games without writing a real line of code, if your tricky / use behaviors well. Behaviors are reactions that objects preform when basic interaction happens. IE on mouse enter do this, etc. There are a few other good options around as well, if your looking for a good drag and drop option there are a few good game engines as posted above as well.

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                                        Yeah I reckon it's safer to stick with the most popular providers then. Not that I've had bad service from ATT except in some really rural towns where I've lost 3G and sometimes even Edge.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        They all have their share of dead spots. I've been with T-Mobile since '06 and have a couple of bad spots outside of town. Buddy of mine has AT&T and he also experiences a few. It goes with the territory.

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                                          I used to be a developer in VB [insert sarcastic note here!], and after a couple of years without coding, i feel my mind is getting slower. So i was thinking about a new hobby and start writing games, only to remember how good it felt to solve something and give some healthy work for my brain. I'm not thinking about fancy graphics and anything like that, just in learning the logic to implement some situations (turn by turn battles, etc.) Recommendations are welcome... :-D

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                                          Get a copy of never winter nights (the original, about $10 online). It allows you to script the actions of just about anything in the game (combat AI for example). The scripting langauge is like C, but I assume you are really more interested in the logic then the language.

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