Shopping for new cars
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Ok, first off, let me just say I am not buying a new car. I am just shopping for the fantasy of buying one. My current car is paid off and runs great. In my fantasy I dreamed that I wanted to step up in the world to something a little bit better built than an America car (or fake American car, since technically I am driving a Monaro and it is built like crap). In the beginning of my search I settled on the staple of overpaid software engineers everywhere, the BMW M3. $67,000, more like $79,000 out the door. Nice, perfect waste of money. Gas Guzzler tax, German Engineering. Car and Driver's best car, yadda, yadda. But it only has 414 HP and pays an enormous gas guzzler tax. I want more from my fantasy car. Then I stumbled upon unobtanium, the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500. $58,000. 540 horsepower, 510 ft-lbs of torque, no gas guzzler tax. Larger rear-set! Then I looked into a Mustang GT (same performance as the GT500? Wow, I guess it is hard to get more than 400 HP to the road, read note below) $41k for the same! Admittedly, it is still a little hard to swallow. I bought a Mustang GT in 2002 for $20,000 fully loaded. This one would be double! Wow. Good thing this is just a fantasy. Cars are too expensive these days. All of the above said. What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it. Note about power to the wheels. Apparently, I am a mature driver. My current car, the 2004 GTO is heavily modified and has 430 HP and 420 ft-lbs and I have never lost control or even brought it to the edge. My nephew's friend (16 with a car) has been begging me to drive it. After listening to the begging for months I finally relented only after much agreements as to how sedately he had to drive. All is going well ... until we return to the neighborhood. On a left hand turn at about 15MPH in 2nd gear he completely lost control of the car; nearly spinning it into a ditch. I did not know my car had that much power. I guess, what that means, is that I am not driving my car hard enough.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it.
I don't really fantasize about cars. I always find it silly when most guys talk non-stop about most unpractical and pretty much unaffordable cars they "would get" if they could. But then again, I think their obsession with sports when most of them can't run a hundred yards without getting a heart attack is equally as silly. That said I'd love to have Subary Legacy 2.5 Turbo Wagon with roof rack. IMO it's a perfect combination of gas mileage, usability - all wheel drive, utility - lots of cargo space in the back, roof rack for kayaks, hitch for carrying bikes, and turbo power to haul all of the above. Sadly it is not offered in North America. Perhaps some day Subary will bring it to N.A. and perhaps it will just so happen that I would be looking to replace my current car...
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You are a bitter man, aren't you :-) I've encountered nasty drivers on roads too, but they are such a minority that I usually just ignore them. What I mean is I am not affected enough by them to formulate complex strategies just to pass them!
Regards, Nish
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You would be surprised just how many of those jerks are out there. And minority is irrelevant. If only 1% of the drivers on the road are morons that intentionally block the flow of traffic consider just how many you face. You are in Atlanta, right? Try the left-lane on 285 at 4PM and watch idiots brake because they forgot to change lanes early and watch as drivers change into your lane off speed. Of course, if you try the same thing at 2 PM could probably drive 95mph with no problem. Atlanta is the only place I have been where bumper to bumper traffic can exceed 90 MPH.
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You would be surprised just how many of those jerks are out there. And minority is irrelevant. If only 1% of the drivers on the road are morons that intentionally block the flow of traffic consider just how many you face. You are in Atlanta, right? Try the left-lane on 285 at 4PM and watch idiots brake because they forgot to change lanes early and watch as drivers change into your lane off speed. Of course, if you try the same thing at 2 PM could probably drive 95mph with no problem. Atlanta is the only place I have been where bumper to bumper traffic can exceed 90 MPH.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
You are in Atlanta, right?
Used to. Moved to Columbus, OH recently.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Try the left-lane on 285 at 4PM
When I lived in Atlanta my work commute was 5 minutes, so I never had to drive in peak traffic!
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Atlanta is the only place I have been where bumper to bumper traffic can exceed 90 MPH.
Yeah totally agree, and perhaps downtown Detroit too (if you've ever been there).
Regards, Nish
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a BMW 3 convertible would be fine. i don't have any use for more than 300hp. hell, the 200hp my Audi A4 gets is wasted on the 12 mile drive to work - i can speed the whole way there and never get the tach above 3K.
Same here on my 06 Buick LaCross. There're a few spots I drive occasionally where I have to pull out into traffic on a steep uphill where I get the tach briefly above 5k; but none are on my commute. I probably could hit 5k if I floored it on the highway on ramp, but it's long enough that there's no need to do anything like that; and the cars in front of you generally mean you couldn't anyway.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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Ok, first off, let me just say I am not buying a new car. I am just shopping for the fantasy of buying one. My current car is paid off and runs great. In my fantasy I dreamed that I wanted to step up in the world to something a little bit better built than an America car (or fake American car, since technically I am driving a Monaro and it is built like crap). In the beginning of my search I settled on the staple of overpaid software engineers everywhere, the BMW M3. $67,000, more like $79,000 out the door. Nice, perfect waste of money. Gas Guzzler tax, German Engineering. Car and Driver's best car, yadda, yadda. But it only has 414 HP and pays an enormous gas guzzler tax. I want more from my fantasy car. Then I stumbled upon unobtanium, the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500. $58,000. 540 horsepower, 510 ft-lbs of torque, no gas guzzler tax. Larger rear-set! Then I looked into a Mustang GT (same performance as the GT500? Wow, I guess it is hard to get more than 400 HP to the road, read note below) $41k for the same! Admittedly, it is still a little hard to swallow. I bought a Mustang GT in 2002 for $20,000 fully loaded. This one would be double! Wow. Good thing this is just a fantasy. Cars are too expensive these days. All of the above said. What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it. Note about power to the wheels. Apparently, I am a mature driver. My current car, the 2004 GTO is heavily modified and has 430 HP and 420 ft-lbs and I have never lost control or even brought it to the edge. My nephew's friend (16 with a car) has been begging me to drive it. After listening to the begging for months I finally relented only after much agreements as to how sedately he had to drive. All is going well ... until we return to the neighborhood. On a left hand turn at about 15MPH in 2nd gear he completely lost control of the car; nearly spinning it into a ditch. I did not know my car had that much power. I guess, what that means, is that I am not driving my car hard enough.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it.
If money were no object, a 3/4-ton extended cab diesel Silverado. If I had some monies left over, I'd throw in a bed liner, towing package, and a custom stereo system.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it.
I don't really fantasize about cars. I always find it silly when most guys talk non-stop about most unpractical and pretty much unaffordable cars they "would get" if they could. But then again, I think their obsession with sports when most of them can't run a hundred yards without getting a heart attack is equally as silly. That said I'd love to have Subary Legacy 2.5 Turbo Wagon with roof rack. IMO it's a perfect combination of gas mileage, usability - all wheel drive, utility - lots of cargo space in the back, roof rack for kayaks, hitch for carrying bikes, and turbo power to haul all of the above. Sadly it is not offered in North America. Perhaps some day Subary will bring it to N.A. and perhaps it will just so happen that I would be looking to replace my current car...
JazzJackRabbit wrote:
I don't really fantasize about cars. I always find it silly when most guys talk non-stop about most unpractical and pretty much unaffordable cars they "would get" if they could. But then again
Same here. I drive a Buick sedan which is about as boring as it gets. My only regrets about the purchase are all boring stuff. The fact that noone sold a smaller car with the same amount of drivers leg room (any less and I can't drive long distance without cramping badly), and that when I couldn't find one with remote start and a fold flat back seat that didn't have several grand of junk accessories I went with the remote starter; adding one of those aftermarket would've been fairly strait forward, I'm SOL on the fold flat seat. :doh:
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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Ok, first off, let me just say I am not buying a new car. I am just shopping for the fantasy of buying one. My current car is paid off and runs great. In my fantasy I dreamed that I wanted to step up in the world to something a little bit better built than an America car (or fake American car, since technically I am driving a Monaro and it is built like crap). In the beginning of my search I settled on the staple of overpaid software engineers everywhere, the BMW M3. $67,000, more like $79,000 out the door. Nice, perfect waste of money. Gas Guzzler tax, German Engineering. Car and Driver's best car, yadda, yadda. But it only has 414 HP and pays an enormous gas guzzler tax. I want more from my fantasy car. Then I stumbled upon unobtanium, the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500. $58,000. 540 horsepower, 510 ft-lbs of torque, no gas guzzler tax. Larger rear-set! Then I looked into a Mustang GT (same performance as the GT500? Wow, I guess it is hard to get more than 400 HP to the road, read note below) $41k for the same! Admittedly, it is still a little hard to swallow. I bought a Mustang GT in 2002 for $20,000 fully loaded. This one would be double! Wow. Good thing this is just a fantasy. Cars are too expensive these days. All of the above said. What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it. Note about power to the wheels. Apparently, I am a mature driver. My current car, the 2004 GTO is heavily modified and has 430 HP and 420 ft-lbs and I have never lost control or even brought it to the edge. My nephew's friend (16 with a car) has been begging me to drive it. After listening to the begging for months I finally relented only after much agreements as to how sedately he had to drive. All is going well ... until we return to the neighborhood. On a left hand turn at about 15MPH in 2nd gear he completely lost control of the car; nearly spinning it into a ditch. I did not know my car had that much power. I guess, what that means, is that I am not driving my car hard enough.
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I love my Infinity G37...
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Ok, first off, let me just say I am not buying a new car. I am just shopping for the fantasy of buying one. My current car is paid off and runs great. In my fantasy I dreamed that I wanted to step up in the world to something a little bit better built than an America car (or fake American car, since technically I am driving a Monaro and it is built like crap). In the beginning of my search I settled on the staple of overpaid software engineers everywhere, the BMW M3. $67,000, more like $79,000 out the door. Nice, perfect waste of money. Gas Guzzler tax, German Engineering. Car and Driver's best car, yadda, yadda. But it only has 414 HP and pays an enormous gas guzzler tax. I want more from my fantasy car. Then I stumbled upon unobtanium, the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500. $58,000. 540 horsepower, 510 ft-lbs of torque, no gas guzzler tax. Larger rear-set! Then I looked into a Mustang GT (same performance as the GT500? Wow, I guess it is hard to get more than 400 HP to the road, read note below) $41k for the same! Admittedly, it is still a little hard to swallow. I bought a Mustang GT in 2002 for $20,000 fully loaded. This one would be double! Wow. Good thing this is just a fantasy. Cars are too expensive these days. All of the above said. What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it. Note about power to the wheels. Apparently, I am a mature driver. My current car, the 2004 GTO is heavily modified and has 430 HP and 420 ft-lbs and I have never lost control or even brought it to the edge. My nephew's friend (16 with a car) has been begging me to drive it. After listening to the begging for months I finally relented only after much agreements as to how sedately he had to drive. All is going well ... until we return to the neighborhood. On a left hand turn at about 15MPH in 2nd gear he completely lost control of the car; nearly spinning it into a ditch. I did not know my car had that much power. I guess, what that means, is that I am not driving my car hard enough.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -
I want the 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8. 6.4L engine with 500+ hp, same for torque, from the factory. < 5s 0-60. My brother is an engine tuner and could squeeze out another 100hp relatively cheap. Not bad for a 4x4 with 4 doors that seats 5 and can be driven in the worst of conditions (that's how you pitch it to your wife).
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Ok, first off, let me just say I am not buying a new car. I am just shopping for the fantasy of buying one. My current car is paid off and runs great. In my fantasy I dreamed that I wanted to step up in the world to something a little bit better built than an America car (or fake American car, since technically I am driving a Monaro and it is built like crap). In the beginning of my search I settled on the staple of overpaid software engineers everywhere, the BMW M3. $67,000, more like $79,000 out the door. Nice, perfect waste of money. Gas Guzzler tax, German Engineering. Car and Driver's best car, yadda, yadda. But it only has 414 HP and pays an enormous gas guzzler tax. I want more from my fantasy car. Then I stumbled upon unobtanium, the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500. $58,000. 540 horsepower, 510 ft-lbs of torque, no gas guzzler tax. Larger rear-set! Then I looked into a Mustang GT (same performance as the GT500? Wow, I guess it is hard to get more than 400 HP to the road, read note below) $41k for the same! Admittedly, it is still a little hard to swallow. I bought a Mustang GT in 2002 for $20,000 fully loaded. This one would be double! Wow. Good thing this is just a fantasy. Cars are too expensive these days. All of the above said. What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it. Note about power to the wheels. Apparently, I am a mature driver. My current car, the 2004 GTO is heavily modified and has 430 HP and 420 ft-lbs and I have never lost control or even brought it to the edge. My nephew's friend (16 with a car) has been begging me to drive it. After listening to the begging for months I finally relented only after much agreements as to how sedately he had to drive. All is going well ... until we return to the neighborhood. On a left hand turn at about 15MPH in 2nd gear he completely lost control of the car; nearly spinning it into a ditch. I did not know my car had that much power. I guess, what that means, is that I am not driving my car hard enough.
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Unfortunately, other drivers on the road like to intentionally block you from passing. They do this by either pulling out and front of you when you try to pass or by speeding up when you pass. The only effective strategy I have found to pass is to tailgate, downshift, and pass. Slowly accelerating, signaling and changing lanes usually only results in frustration.
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Some of us (like me) are just stupid. For example, the other day I was on the left of a 2-lane on ramp. The guy to the front/right of me wasn't merging in (he would have to eventually), so I sped up to go past him (I like to get up to the speed of the highway traffic, and this guy was going much slower). Rather than let me pass by continuing at the speed he was going and then merging left, he decided to speed up and stick to the right of me (slightly back, so his front end was around the middle of my car) while his lane was merging into mine. I slowed down to avoid him crashing into me and he went on his merry way. I can't decide who was the dick in that particular scenario. Was I, for not following the cross hatch pattern (which the back seat driver I was with at the time was happy to inform me of)? Was he, for sticking to the right of me? In retrospect, I'm still not sure... but in the future, I'll probably just wait for slow pokes to merge in, so I can avoid an accident.
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Ok, first off, let me just say I am not buying a new car. I am just shopping for the fantasy of buying one. My current car is paid off and runs great. In my fantasy I dreamed that I wanted to step up in the world to something a little bit better built than an America car (or fake American car, since technically I am driving a Monaro and it is built like crap). In the beginning of my search I settled on the staple of overpaid software engineers everywhere, the BMW M3. $67,000, more like $79,000 out the door. Nice, perfect waste of money. Gas Guzzler tax, German Engineering. Car and Driver's best car, yadda, yadda. But it only has 414 HP and pays an enormous gas guzzler tax. I want more from my fantasy car. Then I stumbled upon unobtanium, the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500. $58,000. 540 horsepower, 510 ft-lbs of torque, no gas guzzler tax. Larger rear-set! Then I looked into a Mustang GT (same performance as the GT500? Wow, I guess it is hard to get more than 400 HP to the road, read note below) $41k for the same! Admittedly, it is still a little hard to swallow. I bought a Mustang GT in 2002 for $20,000 fully loaded. This one would be double! Wow. Good thing this is just a fantasy. Cars are too expensive these days. All of the above said. What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it. Note about power to the wheels. Apparently, I am a mature driver. My current car, the 2004 GTO is heavily modified and has 430 HP and 420 ft-lbs and I have never lost control or even brought it to the edge. My nephew's friend (16 with a car) has been begging me to drive it. After listening to the begging for months I finally relented only after much agreements as to how sedately he had to drive. All is going well ... until we return to the neighborhood. On a left hand turn at about 15MPH in 2nd gear he completely lost control of the car; nearly spinning it into a ditch. I did not know my car had that much power. I guess, what that means, is that I am not driving my car hard enough.
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I would buy a lignt weight, relatively high spec'd Caterham; I would just add a couple of options, such as a heater and all-weather trim.
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Jag E type with the David Brown refit and, of course, Autin Powers Shaguar livery. :cool:
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And Pierce Brosnan wearing a yellow tie/only/ siting besides you on the passenger seat? :-D
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Ok, first off, let me just say I am not buying a new car. I am just shopping for the fantasy of buying one. My current car is paid off and runs great. In my fantasy I dreamed that I wanted to step up in the world to something a little bit better built than an America car (or fake American car, since technically I am driving a Monaro and it is built like crap). In the beginning of my search I settled on the staple of overpaid software engineers everywhere, the BMW M3. $67,000, more like $79,000 out the door. Nice, perfect waste of money. Gas Guzzler tax, German Engineering. Car and Driver's best car, yadda, yadda. But it only has 414 HP and pays an enormous gas guzzler tax. I want more from my fantasy car. Then I stumbled upon unobtanium, the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500. $58,000. 540 horsepower, 510 ft-lbs of torque, no gas guzzler tax. Larger rear-set! Then I looked into a Mustang GT (same performance as the GT500? Wow, I guess it is hard to get more than 400 HP to the road, read note below) $41k for the same! Admittedly, it is still a little hard to swallow. I bought a Mustang GT in 2002 for $20,000 fully loaded. This one would be double! Wow. Good thing this is just a fantasy. Cars are too expensive these days. All of the above said. What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it. Note about power to the wheels. Apparently, I am a mature driver. My current car, the 2004 GTO is heavily modified and has 430 HP and 420 ft-lbs and I have never lost control or even brought it to the edge. My nephew's friend (16 with a car) has been begging me to drive it. After listening to the begging for months I finally relented only after much agreements as to how sedately he had to drive. All is going well ... until we return to the neighborhood. On a left hand turn at about 15MPH in 2nd gear he completely lost control of the car; nearly spinning it into a ditch. I did not know my car had that much power. I guess, what that means, is that I am not driving my car hard enough.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it.
Dang!
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Ok, first off, let me just say I am not buying a new car. I am just shopping for the fantasy of buying one. My current car is paid off and runs great. In my fantasy I dreamed that I wanted to step up in the world to something a little bit better built than an America car (or fake American car, since technically I am driving a Monaro and it is built like crap). In the beginning of my search I settled on the staple of overpaid software engineers everywhere, the BMW M3. $67,000, more like $79,000 out the door. Nice, perfect waste of money. Gas Guzzler tax, German Engineering. Car and Driver's best car, yadda, yadda. But it only has 414 HP and pays an enormous gas guzzler tax. I want more from my fantasy car. Then I stumbled upon unobtanium, the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500. $58,000. 540 horsepower, 510 ft-lbs of torque, no gas guzzler tax. Larger rear-set! Then I looked into a Mustang GT (same performance as the GT500? Wow, I guess it is hard to get more than 400 HP to the road, read note below) $41k for the same! Admittedly, it is still a little hard to swallow. I bought a Mustang GT in 2002 for $20,000 fully loaded. This one would be double! Wow. Good thing this is just a fantasy. Cars are too expensive these days. All of the above said. What is your fantasy marginally affordable over-the-top car? Keep in mind you have to actually be able to buy it or finance it. Note about power to the wheels. Apparently, I am a mature driver. My current car, the 2004 GTO is heavily modified and has 430 HP and 420 ft-lbs and I have never lost control or even brought it to the edge. My nephew's friend (16 with a car) has been begging me to drive it. After listening to the begging for months I finally relented only after much agreements as to how sedately he had to drive. All is going well ... until we return to the neighborhood. On a left hand turn at about 15MPH in 2nd gear he completely lost control of the car; nearly spinning it into a ditch. I did not know my car had that much power. I guess, what that means, is that I am not driving my car hard enough.
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I drive a Jaguar. No need to shop or to fantasize.
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