Windows 98 and a modern PC
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Because I wanna play Red Alert and Descent 3 at 1680x1050 dammit, all natively, I'm curious how installing Windows 98 will go with 1 GB RAM. (I do know of tricks to get it to play nice with more, just that I'll be installing. I'd buy 2 512 MB sticks but they don't have DDR2 800 ones :( ) If needed I can use Windows ME. I've checked the the mobo has W98 compatible things on it.
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
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Because I wanna play Red Alert and Descent 3 at 1680x1050 dammit, all natively, I'm curious how installing Windows 98 will go with 1 GB RAM. (I do know of tricks to get it to play nice with more, just that I'll be installing. I'd buy 2 512 MB sticks but they don't have DDR2 800 ones :( ) If needed I can use Windows ME. I've checked the the mobo has W98 compatible things on it.
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
Try a gaming site? Mya be able to help you with the excact specs need for the games.
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Because I wanna play Red Alert and Descent 3 at 1680x1050 dammit, all natively, I'm curious how installing Windows 98 will go with 1 GB RAM. (I do know of tricks to get it to play nice with more, just that I'll be installing. I'd buy 2 512 MB sticks but they don't have DDR2 800 ones :( ) If needed I can use Windows ME. I've checked the the mobo has W98 compatible things on it.
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).
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Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).
It's gonna be a Windows 98/ME and Debian dual boot (If I get my Vista disc it will be the triple bypass, the unholy alliance), I don't really want to use VirtualBox; I want to impress nerds with my blasphemous desktop.
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
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Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).
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It's gonna be a Windows 98/ME and Debian dual boot (If I get my Vista disc it will be the triple bypass, the unholy alliance), I don't really want to use VirtualBox; I want to impress nerds with my blasphemous desktop.
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
+5 for the pseudo-religious, self-condemning boastfulness nature of this post ;) Will you liquid-cool the system with holy water?
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Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).
Rob Graham wrote:
VMware Workstation is free now
It is and I have been messing with the player for 3 days? Darn.. Edit: It does not seem to be free at their site. How does one get it for free?\ http://www.vmware.com/products/workstation/[^]
John
modified on Thursday, January 6, 2011 9:01 AM
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Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).
The problem with virtual machines is that they don't really work well with DirectX or OpenGL apps because the video card is treated like a standard VGA adapter - unless things have changed radically snce the last time I tried...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
It's gonna be a Windows 98/ME and Debian dual boot (If I get my Vista disc it will be the triple bypass, the unholy alliance), I don't really want to use VirtualBox; I want to impress nerds with my blasphemous desktop.
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
I think may have problems with disk sizes as well. Win98 might be an ultimately better choice, or even Windows 2000.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
The problem with virtual machines is that they don't really work well with DirectX or OpenGL apps because the video card is treated like a standard VGA adapter - unless things have changed radically snce the last time I tried...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Several of the virtual machines have 2D and 3D accelerated opengl and directx. This still comes with a performance penalty but a lot less then 100% emulated. Also several will allow you to allocate GPUs to your guest provided you have extra GPUs and that you have a processor with the support for this.
John
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I think may have problems with disk sizes as well. Win98 might be an ultimately better choice, or even Windows 2000.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Not if I partition the disk with GParted into nice little chunks first! My plan is a a 20 GB FAT32 part for Win98, 10 GB for Debian ext3 and how it likes it's partitions, maybe 40 for Vista NTFS if it's possible and the rest in a shared FAT32 partition
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
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Because I wanna play Red Alert and Descent 3 at 1680x1050 dammit, all natively, I'm curious how installing Windows 98 will go with 1 GB RAM. (I do know of tricks to get it to play nice with more, just that I'll be installing. I'd buy 2 512 MB sticks but they don't have DDR2 800 ones :( ) If needed I can use Windows ME. I've checked the the mobo has W98 compatible things on it.
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
Descent 3 and its expansion can be legally bought for next to nothing (DRM free) from here: http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/descent_3_expansion[^] It's already patched to work on XP, Vista and Seven. Be sure to check their entire catalogue for that matter. That site is just awesome. Red Alert is now freeware and I've seen a friend playing it a few months ago on Vista: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Red_Alert#Released_as_freeware[^]
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It's gonna be a Windows 98/ME and Debian dual boot (If I get my Vista disc it will be the triple bypass, the unholy alliance), I don't really want to use VirtualBox; I want to impress nerds with my blasphemous desktop.
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
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Not if I partition the disk with GParted into nice little chunks first! My plan is a a 20 GB FAT32 part for Win98, 10 GB for Debian ext3 and how it likes it's partitions, maybe 40 for Vista NTFS if it's possible and the rest in a shared FAT32 partition
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
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Not if I partition the disk with GParted into nice little chunks first! My plan is a a 20 GB FAT32 part for Win98, 10 GB for Debian ext3 and how it likes it's partitions, maybe 40 for Vista NTFS if it's possible and the rest in a shared FAT32 partition
People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)
I have a removable drive tray instead of a multi-boot system. BTW, is your boot drive a SATA drive? If so, are there SATA drivers for Win9x? EDIT ------- I found that there are no SATA drivers for Win98, but at least one person has gotten it to install.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Descent 3 and its expansion can be legally bought for next to nothing (DRM free) from here: http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/descent_3_expansion[^] It's already patched to work on XP, Vista and Seven. Be sure to check their entire catalogue for that matter. That site is just awesome. Red Alert is now freeware and I've seen a friend playing it a few months ago on Vista: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Red_Alert#Released_as_freeware[^]
I used to play Descent - I think I'm gonna have to buy this (and a joystick).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I have a removable drive tray instead of a multi-boot system. BTW, is your boot drive a SATA drive? If so, are there SATA drivers for Win9x? EDIT ------- I found that there are no SATA drivers for Win98, but at least one person has gotten it to install.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Descent 3 and its expansion can be legally bought for next to nothing (DRM free) from here: http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/descent_3_expansion[^] It's already patched to work on XP, Vista and Seven. Be sure to check their entire catalogue for that matter. That site is just awesome. Red Alert is now freeware and I've seen a friend playing it a few months ago on Vista: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Red_Alert#Released_as_freeware[^]
That is a great site! (gog). I can now blame you for 2011 being 10% less efficient than it would otherwise have been... Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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I think you'll find that vmware server is free, not workstation. But it uses the same emulation, so will definitely do what you want! In fact I'm about to run up an XP machine using Workstation to see if the wretched Samsung KIes software will play better than it does under Win7... 8)
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Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).
VMware Workstation is free now ...
I went to find this free version of workstation at VMWare and I only found the expensive versions of everything except for Zimbra open source, which isn't vmware.
Do you have a link?