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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    Rob Graham wrote:

    VMware Workstation is free now

    Wow - didn't know that. Thanks!

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    Mike Winiberg
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    I think you'll find that vmware server is free, not workstation. But it uses the same emulation, so will definitely do what you want! In fact I'm about to run up an XP machine using Workstation to see if the wretched Samsung KIes software will play better than it does under Win7... 8)

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    • R Rob Graham

      Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).

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      jim norcal
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      VMware Workstation is free now ...

      I went to find this free version of workstation at VMWare and I only found the expensive versions of everything except for Zimbra open source, which isn't vmware.

      Do you have a link?

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      • R Rob Graham

        Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).

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        adudley256
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        I tried Red Alert on MS Virtual PC a few years back, it would *work* well, but multiplayer didn’t for some reason (can’t remember why) so it was a no go, Red Alert Multiplayer was amazing, we used to play every Sunday when the phone call / modem connection was 1p a minute! Worse happened to Total Annihilation (which is an amazing game), it just crashed straight away, apparently Total Annihilation uses some special instruction that just isn’t implemented in MS VPC. If I were to do this again, I’d use VirtualBox, it seems much faster than MS VPC.

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        • B blackjack2150

          Descent 3 and its expansion can be legally bought for next to nothing (DRM free) from here: http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/descent_3_expansion[^] It's already patched to work on XP, Vista and Seven. Be sure to check their entire catalogue for that matter. That site is just awesome. Red Alert is now freeware and I've seen a friend playing it a few months ago on Vista: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Red_Alert#Released_as_freeware[^]

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          adudley256
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          Red Alert free, with a patch to make it work... downloading :) thanks.

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          • D Dan Neely

            You can configure Sata drives to work in legacy mode via BIOS, but IIRC there's a performance penalty in doing so.

            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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            The Cake of Deceit
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            I'm specifically avoiding SATA here. Nothing but me, looooooooooong IDE cables, and two IDE drives.

            People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)

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            • R Rob Graham

              Two words: Virtual Machine. VMware Workstation is free now, as is the Microsoft Virtual PC (VMWare is better).

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              Alexander DiMauro
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              Rob Graham wrote:

              VMware Workstation is free now

              Huh?! When you said this, I got excited and checked their website...it's not free. $189 list, current special at $141. Where did you hear it was free?

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              • R realJSOP

                The problem with virtual machines is that they don't really work well with DirectX or OpenGL apps because the video card is treated like a standard VGA adapter - unless things have changed radically snce the last time I tried...

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                Andre Sanches alvs
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                VirtualBox claims to support hardware based 3D support in virtual machines (although I never really tried it). Might be worth a shot.

                --------- Andre Sanches "UNIX is friendly, it's just picky about its friends"

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                • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

                  That is a great site! (gog). I can now blame you for 2011 being 10% less efficient than it would otherwise have been... Iain.

                  I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!

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                  DaveP62
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                  Iain Clarke, Warrior Programmer wrote:

                  I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!

                  Well, at least your "over here" contributing in some way by paying taxes. All the jobs that went overseas are a complete loss. :laugh:

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                  • T The Cake of Deceit

                    Because I wanna play Red Alert and Descent 3 at 1680x1050 dammit, all natively, I'm curious how installing Windows 98 will go with 1 GB RAM. (I do know of tricks to get it to play nice with more, just that I'll be installing. I'd buy 2 512 MB sticks but they don't have DDR2 800 ones :( ) If needed I can use Windows ME. I've checked the the mobo has W98 compatible things on it.

                    People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)

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                    patbob
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                    Check gaming sites, or even places like Target stores. A lot of these older games have mods that will enable them to run on newer OSs, and some get actual company-blessed ports and show up on the shelves of Target and the like. My experience has been that such ports usually work better on newer, faster, more capable hardware than the old versions of the games. You may run into some really odd issues, like having too much free disk space. I had one Win98 era game that refused to install (on 2k and XP) because there was too much free disk space. I had to temporarily fill my disk till it had less than 2GB free... and now we all know what that short sighted programmer did wrong :) Have fun.. at least it'll keep you ungainfully entertained for a while :)

                    patbob

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                    • T The Cake of Deceit

                      Because I wanna play Red Alert and Descent 3 at 1680x1050 dammit, all natively, I'm curious how installing Windows 98 will go with 1 GB RAM. (I do know of tricks to get it to play nice with more, just that I'll be installing. I'd buy 2 512 MB sticks but they don't have DDR2 800 ones :( ) If needed I can use Windows ME. I've checked the the mobo has W98 compatible things on it.

                      People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)

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                      skydvr
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                      At the very least Red Alert[^] (and others) is free for download, and should run on XP (and Win7?)... Not sure if this helps - just throwin it out there.

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