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KaЯl wrote: Don't worry, I don't try to defend Hezbollah Then you know what a terrorist organization is. I don't think the world would care as much if the Palestinians only killed Israeli soldiers. But instead they purposefully target innocent civilians on buses, in restaurants, in shops, etc. And don't come back by saying the Israeli soldiers kill innocent people too, because I know they do. BUT, they don't target them on purpose. The Palestinians don't have an army anyway, they just have stone throwing kids. If they don't want to die, they shouldn't be trying to kill soldiers.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: you know what a terrorist organization is Nope, I still don't know. I condemn Hezbollah because they targets civilians, as I condemn some others to do blind bombing on cities. Jason Henderson wrote: BUT, they don't target them on purpose I could show you several articles explaining how some israelian soldiers killed deliberetly civilians, but you would probably say it a lie or propaganda, so I won't do this unuseful move. Jason Henderson wrote: If they don't want to die, they shouldn't be trying to kill soldiers Throwing stones on a Merkava or a M113 isn't the best way to kill soldiers is it ? Moreover, how were killed by stones ? Anyway, I don't think Palestinians are affraid to die. They are so desesperate that it doesn't matter. They are also so desperate that they are easy to be manipulated by some fanatic gurus. Don't you think in some circonstances there's a right to rebellion ?
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Maximilien wrote: Why does all things have to go down to israel, jew, arabs, palestinian ... why does the fact that some canadians are anti-american has to do with the situation in Israel/Palestine ? Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. They kill innocent people! Do the Canadian people condone such acts? Frankly, if I met a Canadian, I wouldn't care less where they are from. I think most Americans don't mind people from other countries as long as they are friendly and don't hate us. What did we do to the Canadians that are anti-American anyway? Make you rich because you are one of our largest trading partners? Is that what makes you mad at us?
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Did I write that I approve of the Hezbollah ? I don't, but the Middle east f*ck up has nothing to do with W.Bush being a moron or not! or being defined as pro/anti american. Jason Henderson wrote: What did we do to the Canadians that are anti-American anyway? Where do I start ! ;) not that much ! it's nothing that will make us do violent things ! most things are slightly aggravating, but nothing more, mostly policies ... the fact is that is simply fun to pick on the bigger brother ! there's no hatred! But there's one thing that most canadians don't like, is to be taken for granted ... Traditionally , the newly elected president makes his first trip to Canada, as a token of friendship; this time, W. decided that we were not that important and decided to go to Mexico instead. After 9/11, W. thanked a lot of countries for their support and "forgot" to thank Canada. Max.
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Jason Henderson wrote: you know what a terrorist organization is Nope, I still don't know. I condemn Hezbollah because they targets civilians, as I condemn some others to do blind bombing on cities. Jason Henderson wrote: BUT, they don't target them on purpose I could show you several articles explaining how some israelian soldiers killed deliberetly civilians, but you would probably say it a lie or propaganda, so I won't do this unuseful move. Jason Henderson wrote: If they don't want to die, they shouldn't be trying to kill soldiers Throwing stones on a Merkava or a M113 isn't the best way to kill soldiers is it ? Moreover, how were killed by stones ? Anyway, I don't think Palestinians are affraid to die. They are so desesperate that it doesn't matter. They are also so desperate that they are easy to be manipulated by some fanatic gurus. Don't you think in some circonstances there's a right to rebellion ?
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KaЯl wrote: I condemn some others to do blind bombing on cities. Who is doing this? Are you implying that the US targeted civilians in the Gulf War and Afghanistan? Show me some proof if you are. KaЯl wrote: I could show you several articles explaining how some israelian soldiers killed deliberetly civilians, but you would probably say it a lie or propaganda, so I won't do this unuseful move. I'm sure there is hatred on both sides, but you don't hear about Israeli soldiers killing a bus load of Paletinians do you? KaЯl wrote: Throwing stones on a Merkava or a M113 isn't the best way to kill soldiers is it ? Moreover, how were killed by stones ? A young boy (named Jihad) was killed this morning because he and his group threw gas bombs at soldiers. BTW, a stone in the right place can easily kill a man. KaЯl wrote: Don't you think in some circonstances there's a right to rebellion ? Absolutely, but a rebellion against civilians is not warranted. If they want more respect from the me they should attack soldiers.
Jason Henderson
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Did I write that I approve of the Hezbollah ? I don't, but the Middle east f*ck up has nothing to do with W.Bush being a moron or not! or being defined as pro/anti american. Jason Henderson wrote: What did we do to the Canadians that are anti-American anyway? Where do I start ! ;) not that much ! it's nothing that will make us do violent things ! most things are slightly aggravating, but nothing more, mostly policies ... the fact is that is simply fun to pick on the bigger brother ! there's no hatred! But there's one thing that most canadians don't like, is to be taken for granted ... Traditionally , the newly elected president makes his first trip to Canada, as a token of friendship; this time, W. decided that we were not that important and decided to go to Mexico instead. After 9/11, W. thanked a lot of countries for their support and "forgot" to thank Canada. Max.
Maximilien wrote: W. thanked a lot of countries for their support and "forgot" to thank Canada. Really? Well, I can see why your so miffed. :rolleyes:
Jason Henderson
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Methinks that you over evaluate your self. Of course that is a common fallicy of those who think that they have all the answers and everyone else has the questions. I'll be glad to take you on in an intellectual debate on any subject that I am conversant with - say anything from physics to music to philosophy and I am just a Texas boy like GW who did not get the education he did - I went to UCLA - he went to Yale. But I don't think I would have a big problem and there are no advisors here. Richard When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar
Richard Stringer wrote: Methinks that you over evaluate your self. Maybe. I haven't been proven wrong in regards to W. and I have been proven wrong by many people, some of them my friends and family! I have a lot of questions, and I don't have a lot of answers, danm, I'd be somewhere else than sitting in front of a computer typing MFC code if I had all the answers! I pride myself in learning as much as possible of the world around me, I think it's quality that can be either a great advantage, and sometimes be very dangerous, someone can become arrogant, and refuse other opinions! I think I'm enough open minded to accept the positions of others. Going to Yale doesn't make someone intelligent! or going to UCLA makes you stupid. On a simple educational point, any university should be equivalent, it's what you make out of it that makes a better person. W. is not a better person because he went to Yale. I don't like debates ( it's confrontational and it's not in my nature ), I can have a good conversation about a lot of things, even when I don't know much about a subject; we could talk about physic as a science in general, but I cannot talk about physic finer points; same things, you take two physicians ( not medical doctors ) one in nuclear physics, and the other one in interstallar-something physic, they can't have a discussion about the particularity of each speciality, but they can and should be able to talk about physics. Max.
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Maximilien wrote: W. thanked a lot of countries for their support and "forgot" to thank Canada. Really? Well, I can see why your so miffed. :rolleyes:
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: Well, I can see why your so miffed Yep, I've been holding my breath in protest since then! Max.
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Problems with speaking in public does not a moron make.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Nenehehee! :) Max.
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Nenehehee! :) Max.
I have trouble speaking in public. I get all nervous and fumble my words sometimes (like W.). Am I a moron, Max? :confused: Btw, we need a :dumb: or :moron: emoticon.
Jason Henderson
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I'd never go back to States.[^] :wtf::eek: Kant Sonork-100.28114
Are there any countries in the world that get more flak than the US*? I hear people complain about American zealots who always defend the US, but does anyone think maybe they are motivated to defend because everyone loves to take pot-shots at their country? (And everyone loves it when they do?) * Other than France ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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KaЯl wrote: I condemn some others to do blind bombing on cities. Who is doing this? Are you implying that the US targeted civilians in the Gulf War and Afghanistan? Show me some proof if you are. KaЯl wrote: I could show you several articles explaining how some israelian soldiers killed deliberetly civilians, but you would probably say it a lie or propaganda, so I won't do this unuseful move. I'm sure there is hatred on both sides, but you don't hear about Israeli soldiers killing a bus load of Paletinians do you? KaЯl wrote: Throwing stones on a Merkava or a M113 isn't the best way to kill soldiers is it ? Moreover, how were killed by stones ? A young boy (named Jihad) was killed this morning because he and his group threw gas bombs at soldiers. BTW, a stone in the right place can easily kill a man. KaЯl wrote: Don't you think in some circonstances there's a right to rebellion ? Absolutely, but a rebellion against civilians is not warranted. If they want more respect from the me they should attack soldiers.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: Are you implying that the US targeted civilians in the Gulf War and Afghanistan No, I was more refering to WWII, when civilians from both sides were designed as targets. Jason Henderson wrote: Israeli soldiers killing a bus load of Paletinians do you? I'm as you (on this point :)), I strongly disapprove this kind of bombing, of course. However, as you said before, there's no palestinian army, so there can't be "traditionnal" battles, only guerilla actions, as did maquisards and partisans. However, I don't legitimate any palestinian violent actions, even against military targets, because Israel is a democracy. India has shown how to get its independance from the colonial power without a civil war. Palestine deserves Independance (without settlers sifting more and more on its territory), as Israël does.
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I have trouble speaking in public. I get all nervous and fumble my words sometimes (like W.). Am I a moron, Max? :confused: Btw, we need a :dumb: or :moron: emoticon.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *As far as I can read from your posts and discussions around here, I think not, but I might need a second opinion :) Again, it's not the container that matters, it's the content. I just read your sig. I hope I'm not going to have nightmares about you !
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Jason Henderson wrote: Are you implying that the US targeted civilians in the Gulf War and Afghanistan No, I was more refering to WWII, when civilians from both sides were designed as targets. Jason Henderson wrote: Israeli soldiers killing a bus load of Paletinians do you? I'm as you (on this point :)), I strongly disapprove this kind of bombing, of course. However, as you said before, there's no palestinian army, so there can't be "traditionnal" battles, only guerilla actions, as did maquisards and partisans. However, I don't legitimate any palestinian violent actions, even against military targets, because Israel is a democracy. India has shown how to get its independance from the colonial power without a civil war. Palestine deserves Independance (without settlers sifting more and more on its territory), as Israël does.
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KaЯl wrote: Palestine deserves Independance (without settlers sifting more and more on its territory), as Israël does. Do they? As you said, Israel is a democracy, so why do they need independence? The country of Jordan is over 90% Palestinian (last I heard). Why do they need a Palestine to call their own? When the Brits and French divided the land back in the 20s or 30s (whenever), they gave east of the Jordan to the Palesinian Arabs and west of the Jordan they gave to the Palestinian Jews. They don't want their own country, they want to push the Jews into the sea.
Jason Henderson
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As far as I can read from your posts and discussions around here, I think not, but I might need a second opinion :) Again, it's not the container that matters, it's the content. I just read your sig. I hope I'm not going to have nightmares about you !
Maximilien wrote: I think not, but I might need a second opinion Har har hardee har har.:laugh: Very funny. Maximilien wrote: Again, it's not the container that matters, it's the content. What has W said that offends you so? Maximilien wrote: I just read your sig. I hope I'm not going to have nightmares about you :cool: Don't worry. My bark is worse than my bite. ;)
Jason Henderson
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KaЯl wrote: Palestine deserves Independance (without settlers sifting more and more on its territory), as Israël does. Do they? As you said, Israel is a democracy, so why do they need independence? The country of Jordan is over 90% Palestinian (last I heard). Why do they need a Palestine to call their own? When the Brits and French divided the land back in the 20s or 30s (whenever), they gave east of the Jordan to the Palesinian Arabs and west of the Jordan they gave to the Palestinian Jews. They don't want their own country, they want to push the Jews into the sea.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: Do they? As you said, Israel is a democracy, so why do they need independence? In 1776, UK was still a constitutionnal monarchy, with a parlament, wasn't it ? :-D Jason Henderson wrote: The country of Jordan is over 90% Palestinian (last I heard). Study how these palestinians went there. Moreover, how many jews were born outside Israel before 1945 ? Jason Henderson wrote: When the Brits and French divided the land back in the 20s or 30s You forget the partition voted by UN in 1948[^], it's IMO more important than an imperialistic agreement made after WWI. Jason Henderson wrote: They don't want their own country, they want to push the Jews into the sea. Your generalization is too wide. Palestinian Authority asks for 1967 borders.
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Jason Henderson wrote: Do they? As you said, Israel is a democracy, so why do they need independence? In 1776, UK was still a constitutionnal monarchy, with a parlament, wasn't it ? :-D Jason Henderson wrote: The country of Jordan is over 90% Palestinian (last I heard). Study how these palestinians went there. Moreover, how many jews were born outside Israel before 1945 ? Jason Henderson wrote: When the Brits and French divided the land back in the 20s or 30s You forget the partition voted by UN in 1948[^], it's IMO more important than an imperialistic agreement made after WWI. Jason Henderson wrote: They don't want their own country, they want to push the Jews into the sea. Your generalization is too wide. Palestinian Authority asks for 1967 borders.
Ohé Partisans, Ouvriers et Paysans C'est l'alarme! Le Chant des Partisans
KaЯl wrote: In 1776, UK was still a constitutionnal monarchy, with a parlament, wasn't it ? Americans had no representation in Parliament. If the king would have granted it, we might still be under British rule. KaЯl wrote: Study how these palestinians went there. Moreover, how many jews were born outside Israel before 1945 ? I agree, the French and British really screwed up the whole region. There were Jews living there before 1900, also it was the Jewish homeland prior to the Diaspora when the Romans destroyed the temple and the jewish people scattered to Europe. KaЯl wrote: Your generalization is too wide. Palestinian Authority asks for 1967 borders. Its what they ask for, but their actions say otherwise.
Jason Henderson
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KaЯl wrote: In 1776, UK was still a constitutionnal monarchy, with a parlament, wasn't it ? Americans had no representation in Parliament. If the king would have granted it, we might still be under British rule. KaЯl wrote: Study how these palestinians went there. Moreover, how many jews were born outside Israel before 1945 ? I agree, the French and British really screwed up the whole region. There were Jews living there before 1900, also it was the Jewish homeland prior to the Diaspora when the Romans destroyed the temple and the jewish people scattered to Europe. KaЯl wrote: Your generalization is too wide. Palestinian Authority asks for 1967 borders. Its what they ask for, but their actions say otherwise.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: If the king would have granted it, we might still be under British rule. And now it's the opposite. UK is the 51th state :) Jason Henderson wrote: it was the Jewish homeland prior to the Diaspora As Palestine was the homeland of Palestinians before the Nakba. As you see, it's the same problem both sides, with the same arguments, with the same rights. Jason Henderson wrote: but their actions say otherwise. Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are not under the control of PA, they are enemies. The only thing they share for the moment is the Israelian for the moment. As soon as Palestine will be independant, there will be a great risk of civil war. And the longest the situation is, the biggest are the chances that islamist extremists win. Hate geners hate, violence geners violence. Someone has to break the cyclye. I thought Rabin could, but extremists won again this time.
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Richard Stringer wrote: Methinks that you over evaluate your self. Maybe. I haven't been proven wrong in regards to W. and I have been proven wrong by many people, some of them my friends and family! I have a lot of questions, and I don't have a lot of answers, danm, I'd be somewhere else than sitting in front of a computer typing MFC code if I had all the answers! I pride myself in learning as much as possible of the world around me, I think it's quality that can be either a great advantage, and sometimes be very dangerous, someone can become arrogant, and refuse other opinions! I think I'm enough open minded to accept the positions of others. Going to Yale doesn't make someone intelligent! or going to UCLA makes you stupid. On a simple educational point, any university should be equivalent, it's what you make out of it that makes a better person. W. is not a better person because he went to Yale. I don't like debates ( it's confrontational and it's not in my nature ), I can have a good conversation about a lot of things, even when I don't know much about a subject; we could talk about physic as a science in general, but I cannot talk about physic finer points; same things, you take two physicians ( not medical doctors ) one in nuclear physics, and the other one in interstallar-something physic, they can't have a discussion about the particularity of each speciality, but they can and should be able to talk about physics. Max.
Maximilien wrote: Maybe. I haven't been proven wrong in regards to W. and I have been proven wrong by many people, some of them my friends and family! Then what you are saying is that 65% of the American populance is being fooled by this "moron". Thats what his approval rating is. I wish you could point to one (1) thing he has done that is bad for America - we don't really care about the rest of the world here just the U.S.A. I think he is doing a fine job myself. Maximilien wrote: Going to Yale doesn't make someone intelligent! or going to UCLA makes you stupid. On a simple educational point, any university should be equivalent, it's what you make out of it that makes a better person. W. is not a better person because he went to Yale Sure he is. Just as I was a better person for going to UCLA. I was being a bit specious on that but for my field of interest UCLA was better than Yale or Harvard and I couldn't afford to go therre anyway ( Not jealous just a fact ) . Universities are not - should not - cannot be equivalent. Just think about it for a while and you will realize for that to happen the qualities of education would have to be lowered - not raised. Excellence is a goal that cannot be acheived by everyone or it looses its signifigance. Maximilien wrote: don't like debates ( it's confrontational and it's not in my nature With out debating there can be no real understanding. Nothing sharpens ones understanding moreso then having to defend his/her position with facts and not subjecture. Richard When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar
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Maximilien wrote: Maybe. I haven't been proven wrong in regards to W. and I have been proven wrong by many people, some of them my friends and family! Then what you are saying is that 65% of the American populance is being fooled by this "moron". Thats what his approval rating is. I wish you could point to one (1) thing he has done that is bad for America - we don't really care about the rest of the world here just the U.S.A. I think he is doing a fine job myself. Maximilien wrote: Going to Yale doesn't make someone intelligent! or going to UCLA makes you stupid. On a simple educational point, any university should be equivalent, it's what you make out of it that makes a better person. W. is not a better person because he went to Yale Sure he is. Just as I was a better person for going to UCLA. I was being a bit specious on that but for my field of interest UCLA was better than Yale or Harvard and I couldn't afford to go therre anyway ( Not jealous just a fact ) . Universities are not - should not - cannot be equivalent. Just think about it for a while and you will realize for that to happen the qualities of education would have to be lowered - not raised. Excellence is a goal that cannot be acheived by everyone or it looses its signifigance. Maximilien wrote: don't like debates ( it's confrontational and it's not in my nature With out debating there can be no real understanding. Nothing sharpens ones understanding moreso then having to defend his/her position with facts and not subjecture. Richard When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar
Richard Stringer wrote: Then what you are saying is that 65% of the American populance is being fooled by this "moron". I wouldn't worry about it...the same thing happened here with Thatcher in the 80's. It wasn't at all pleasant. ;P Inevitably, the people, the system and the government screw up frequently. But that's just human nature, hey? At the end of the day what matters is not which politicians you have or what they're currently spouting, it's the people. Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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:) Thanks. It's nice to be appreciated. I suppose I do find too much amusement in bashing Canadians and Europeans. But, damn its fun. Its a true challange to try makeing a Canadian angry, but I never pass up an opportunity to try. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
Stan Shannon wrote: Thanks. It's nice to be appreciated. I suppose I do find too much amusement in bashing Canadians and Europeans. But, damn its fun. Its a true challange to try makeing a Canadian angry, but I never pass up an opportunity to try. I still remember the American in a Dublin Youth Hostel bragging to a Canadian bloke about this wonderful aircraft his country invented...called the Harrier. :omg: We Brits (5 of us) didn't even need to join in. The Canadian bloke was seriously stirring it, and it was really working. :laugh: Tourists like that do you guys no favours at all... ;) Anna :rose: I should say that the Americans I know personally are really, really, nice people. However, anyone who even whiffs of a National Stereotype gets noticed - regardless of nationality. "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Are there any countries in the world that get more flak than the US*? I hear people complain about American zealots who always defend the US, but does anyone think maybe they are motivated to defend because everyone loves to take pot-shots at their country? (And everyone loves it when they do?) * Other than France ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion