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  • C Christian Graus

    Funny, I appear to have used this title before... So, I started this new website with VS2010, only to find it was so slow, buggy and unstable that I forever banished it from my electronic kingdom. VS2008 is *better*, but if I ever break my code, the error list gives a ton of 'the element xxx does not exist' errors, in pages not even related to the one that's broken. Just now, I decided to change how I do something, so I added an argument to a constructor ( which I needed to do ) and did a build for the error list to show me where I assign these objects, the code I now need to change. This error did not even appear, just a ton of errors claiming that page elements I access as variables do not exist, through the project. I find in general that one real error, will generate 20-30 bogus ones. How can this thing be so broken ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Perhaps I lead a charmed life, or I'm blissfully ignorant, but I don't have any problems with VS2010. It is fast and reliable for me even while doing SharePoint applications.


    I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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      Perhaps I lead a charmed life, or I'm blissfully ignorant, but I don't have any problems with VS2010. It is fast and reliable for me even while doing SharePoint applications.


      I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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      keyboard warrior
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      Mark Nischalke wrote:

      Perhaps I lead a charmed life, or I'm blissfully ignorant, but I don't have any problems with VS2010.

      Same. Sometimes it gets a little slow. Or has some querks. A screen loading weird, or having to re-open files but I have about 100 million add ons so it is probably me :D

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      • C Christian Graus

        Funny, I appear to have used this title before... So, I started this new website with VS2010, only to find it was so slow, buggy and unstable that I forever banished it from my electronic kingdom. VS2008 is *better*, but if I ever break my code, the error list gives a ton of 'the element xxx does not exist' errors, in pages not even related to the one that's broken. Just now, I decided to change how I do something, so I added an argument to a constructor ( which I needed to do ) and did a build for the error list to show me where I assign these objects, the code I now need to change. This error did not even appear, just a ton of errors claiming that page elements I access as variables do not exist, through the project. I find in general that one real error, will generate 20-30 bogus ones. How can this thing be so broken ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Espen Harlinn
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        I often just switch to the output window, it often makes more sense ... possibly because of intellisense :-O

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        • K keyboard warrior

          Mark Nischalke wrote:

          Perhaps I lead a charmed life, or I'm blissfully ignorant, but I don't have any problems with VS2010.

          Same. Sometimes it gets a little slow. Or has some querks. A screen loading weird, or having to re-open files but I have about 100 million add ons so it is probably me :D

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          jgasm wrote:

          100 million add ons

          That's almost as many apps in the Windows Phone 7 AppStore :laugh:


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          • C Christian Graus

            Funny, I appear to have used this title before... So, I started this new website with VS2010, only to find it was so slow, buggy and unstable that I forever banished it from my electronic kingdom. VS2008 is *better*, but if I ever break my code, the error list gives a ton of 'the element xxx does not exist' errors, in pages not even related to the one that's broken. Just now, I decided to change how I do something, so I added an argument to a constructor ( which I needed to do ) and did a build for the error list to show me where I assign these objects, the code I now need to change. This error did not even appear, just a ton of errors claiming that page elements I access as variables do not exist, through the project. I find in general that one real error, will generate 20-30 bogus ones. How can this thing be so broken ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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            I'd go about searching for the changes you need to make in another way: 1. Add a new constructor with the new parameter you need and maybe chaining to the existing one if that fits your needs. 2. Use "Find all references" on the constructor you wanted to replace. 3. After fixing all constructor invocations from step two to accord with the new constructor you're free to delete the one you wanted to replace (see 1. though if you chained the new constructor to old one it has to be integrated into the new one or has to stay in place) I know that this is just a workaround to the quirky VS behavior, but if it works what the heck! Cheers!

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            • C Christian Graus

              Funny, I appear to have used this title before... So, I started this new website with VS2010, only to find it was so slow, buggy and unstable that I forever banished it from my electronic kingdom. VS2008 is *better*, but if I ever break my code, the error list gives a ton of 'the element xxx does not exist' errors, in pages not even related to the one that's broken. Just now, I decided to change how I do something, so I added an argument to a constructor ( which I needed to do ) and did a build for the error list to show me where I assign these objects, the code I now need to change. This error did not even appear, just a ton of errors claiming that page elements I access as variables do not exist, through the project. I find in general that one real error, will generate 20-30 bogus ones. How can this thing be so broken ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              Phil Martin
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              How can this thing be so broken ?

              Because even though it is so broken, everyone buys it anyway?

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                How can this thing be so broken ?

                Because even though it is so broken, everyone buys it anyway?

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                Dalek Dave
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                We are addicted to the whole MS thing. But then in terms of interoperability there is little else out there. Ho hum, rough with the smooth I suppose.

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                • C Christian Graus

                  Funny, I appear to have used this title before... So, I started this new website with VS2010, only to find it was so slow, buggy and unstable that I forever banished it from my electronic kingdom. VS2008 is *better*, but if I ever break my code, the error list gives a ton of 'the element xxx does not exist' errors, in pages not even related to the one that's broken. Just now, I decided to change how I do something, so I added an argument to a constructor ( which I needed to do ) and did a build for the error list to show me where I assign these objects, the code I now need to change. This error did not even appear, just a ton of errors claiming that page elements I access as variables do not exist, through the project. I find in general that one real error, will generate 20-30 bogus ones. How can this thing be so broken ?

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Rob Graham
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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  Funny, I appear to have used this title before...

                  I thought you owned the copyright... ;P

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Funny, I appear to have used this title before... So, I started this new website with VS2010, only to find it was so slow, buggy and unstable that I forever banished it from my electronic kingdom. VS2008 is *better*, but if I ever break my code, the error list gives a ton of 'the element xxx does not exist' errors, in pages not even related to the one that's broken. Just now, I decided to change how I do something, so I added an argument to a constructor ( which I needed to do ) and did a build for the error list to show me where I assign these objects, the code I now need to change. This error did not even appear, just a ton of errors claiming that page elements I access as variables do not exist, through the project. I find in general that one real error, will generate 20-30 bogus ones. How can this thing be so broken ?

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I find in general that one real error, will generate 20-30 bogus ones. How can this thing be so broken ?

                    I remember learning (or trying to learn) PASCAL when I was 17, on some mainframe computer. I misplaced semicolon, and I would get hundreds of errors, at least one for every subsequent line of code. Took me days to realize the compiler was dumber than George Bush. Hmmm. That's sort of a broken metaphor. Oh well. Marc

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      I find in general that one real error, will generate 20-30 bogus ones. How can this thing be so broken ?

                      I remember learning (or trying to learn) PASCAL when I was 17, on some mainframe computer. I misplaced semicolon, and I would get hundreds of errors, at least one for every subsequent line of code. Took me days to realize the compiler was dumber than George Bush. Hmmm. That's sort of a broken metaphor. Oh well. Marc

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      I had the same experience learning COBOL, Pascal was relatively easy using Turbo Pascal.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        We are addicted to the whole MS thing. But then in terms of interoperability there is little else out there. Ho hum, rough with the smooth I suppose.

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                        It's also free to students and widely covered by textbooks. An eternity of dodgy application building awaits us all. :D

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