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  • C Colin Rae

    If you've indented it properly, finding the line with the opening brace is trivial!

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    Lost User
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    Colin Rae wrote:

    If you've indented it properly

    If - well sure, but if you indented everything properly then you wouldn't need to have braces at all. you've - not necessarily me who wrote the original trivial - not sure I agree. if your indentation's large enough and your code block small enough, that's usually the case - but scanning upward your eye is still looking for 'something' in that column - rather than a brace in that column. It's no biggie either way - but I find the reasoning behind a brace on a new line to cover more cases than a brace on the end of a line.

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    • L Lost User

      Colin Rae wrote:

      If you've indented it properly

      If - well sure, but if you indented everything properly then you wouldn't need to have braces at all. you've - not necessarily me who wrote the original trivial - not sure I agree. if your indentation's large enough and your code block small enough, that's usually the case - but scanning upward your eye is still looking for 'something' in that column - rather than a brace in that column. It's no biggie either way - but I find the reasoning behind a brace on a new line to cover more cases than a brace on the end of a line.

      ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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      Colin Rae
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      _Maxxx_ wrote:

      If - well sure, but if you indented everything properly then you wouldn't need to have braces at all.

      Damn compiler seems to want them for some reason...!

      _Maxxx_ wrote:

      scanning upward your eye is still looking for 'something' in that column

      When I've got multiple nesting of braces it doesn't matter whether I'm looking for a brace or an "if" - it's still hard to find the one that lines up! You're right though. It's all personal taste and what you're used to. The one thing I probably hate more than anything is someone trying to impose their own standard as gospel. If I modify someone else's code, I use their style (though I may wince a little!).

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      • N Nikunj_Bhatt

        Which method do u use for curly braces to create scope of a programming structure? I mostly prefer this method:

        if(a>b)
        { // sometimes i write comment here about logic and parameters etc.
        print "b is less than or equal to a"
        print "it means a is greater than b"
        }
        else
        print "a is either either equal to or less than b"

        Note that, I don't use braces for a single line of scope and I indent the starting brace and ending brace and it is not on the same line where the control structure is defined. I use this approach because it makes easy (just hit Enter key, no need to press Tab key) to add a new line of code after the staring brace and before the first statement of the block. I use Notepad++ and it has slightly good matching braces hilting feature and this method helps to correctly lineup and identify scope content. Here are some more methods used my many programmers:

        if(a>b) { // this is Flash's ActionScript's default formatting, I hate this style the most, I feel it most unreadable, some Java programmers and web designers working on CSS also use almost similar method for writing CSS rules
        print "b is less than or equal to a"
        print "it means a is greater than b"
        } else {
        print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
        }

        if(a>b)
        {
        print "b is less than or equal to a"
        print "it means a is greater than b"
        }
        else
        {
        print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
        }

        if(a>b)
        { print "b is less than or equal to a"
        print "it means a is greater than b"
        }

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        Indivara
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        Either

        if (condition)
        {
        statement;
        statement;
        }
        else
        {
        statement;
        statement;
        }

        or

        if (condition) {
        statement;
        statement;
        } else {
        statement;
        statement;
        }

        depending what I'm working on, and what everyone else uses in the project. Note the space after the if, and operators will have spaces on either side (like if (a > b)) Your method, I'd only use at gunpoint (and maybe not even then). Well, you asked! ;)

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        • N Nikunj_Bhatt

          Which method do u use for curly braces to create scope of a programming structure? I mostly prefer this method:

          if(a>b)
          { // sometimes i write comment here about logic and parameters etc.
          print "b is less than or equal to a"
          print "it means a is greater than b"
          }
          else
          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"

          Note that, I don't use braces for a single line of scope and I indent the starting brace and ending brace and it is not on the same line where the control structure is defined. I use this approach because it makes easy (just hit Enter key, no need to press Tab key) to add a new line of code after the staring brace and before the first statement of the block. I use Notepad++ and it has slightly good matching braces hilting feature and this method helps to correctly lineup and identify scope content. Here are some more methods used my many programmers:

          if(a>b) { // this is Flash's ActionScript's default formatting, I hate this style the most, I feel it most unreadable, some Java programmers and web designers working on CSS also use almost similar method for writing CSS rules
          print "b is less than or equal to a"
          print "it means a is greater than b"
          } else {
          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
          }

          if(a>b)
          {
          print "b is less than or equal to a"
          print "it means a is greater than b"
          }
          else
          {
          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
          }

          if(a>b)
          { print "b is less than or equal to a"
          print "it means a is greater than b"
          }

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          Maximilien
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          Scarlett Johansson

          Watched code never compiles.

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          • R realJSOP

            Steve Echols wrote:

            I'm a white space fanatic!

            That makes you a bracist...

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            Henry Minute
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            Whilst I agree with Steve, I wouldn't put myself in the same bracket.

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!

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            • N Nikunj_Bhatt

              Which method do u use for curly braces to create scope of a programming structure? I mostly prefer this method:

              if(a>b)
              { // sometimes i write comment here about logic and parameters etc.
              print "b is less than or equal to a"
              print "it means a is greater than b"
              }
              else
              print "a is either either equal to or less than b"

              Note that, I don't use braces for a single line of scope and I indent the starting brace and ending brace and it is not on the same line where the control structure is defined. I use this approach because it makes easy (just hit Enter key, no need to press Tab key) to add a new line of code after the staring brace and before the first statement of the block. I use Notepad++ and it has slightly good matching braces hilting feature and this method helps to correctly lineup and identify scope content. Here are some more methods used my many programmers:

              if(a>b) { // this is Flash's ActionScript's default formatting, I hate this style the most, I feel it most unreadable, some Java programmers and web designers working on CSS also use almost similar method for writing CSS rules
              print "b is less than or equal to a"
              print "it means a is greater than b"
              } else {
              print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
              }

              if(a>b)
              {
              print "b is less than or equal to a"
              print "it means a is greater than b"
              }
              else
              {
              print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
              }

              if(a>b)
              { print "b is less than or equal to a"
              print "it means a is greater than b"
              }

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              Phil Martin
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              #29

              It's not even close to on topic, but I think the whole premise is flawed. Storing code as plain text is such a pain in the sphincter. Having the code stored in a semantic way and retrieved, displayed and edited in a form that suits me at the time would be vastly preferable to me. But the chances of that happening in my life time? Slim to none. People have stopped talking to each other other spaces vs tabs, let alone not storing code as text.

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              • R realJSOP

                Steve Echols wrote:

                I'm a white space fanatic!

                That makes you a bracist...

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                Kasson
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                :laugh:

                With Regards, Kasson. Birth is a mistake you'll spend your whole life trying to correct.

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                • S Steve Mayfield

                  I used the 1st alt method many years, but now use the 2nd alt method as it is much easier (for me) to see the block structure. I use an indent with 2 spaces per level

                  Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  Steve Mayfield wrote:

                  2 spaces per level

                  But that depends on the font size and resolution -- measure your indent with a ruler, it may be the same visual depth as my four-SPACE indent.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Colin Rae wrote:

                    If you've indented it properly

                    If - well sure, but if you indented everything properly then you wouldn't need to have braces at all. you've - not necessarily me who wrote the original trivial - not sure I agree. if your indentation's large enough and your code block small enough, that's usually the case - but scanning upward your eye is still looking for 'something' in that column - rather than a brace in that column. It's no biggie either way - but I find the reasoning behind a brace on a new line to cover more cases than a brace on the end of a line.

                    ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                    you wouldn't need to have braces at all.

                    Ah, Python.

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                    • L Lost User

                      My style is:

                      if (something)
                      {
                      DoSomething();
                      SoSomethingOther();
                      }
                      else
                      {
                      DoTheOpposite();
                      }

                      As with every style or methodology I use, I try to have a reason for using it, so that I can justify it (even if only to myself!) and, importantly, change should a better method come along (using reasoning to define 'better') So: By having the 'if' aligned with the start and end brace, when scanning code it is trivial to visually see the structure - scan up from the end brace, you just need to look for another brace. If the start brace is at the end of a line of code, then scanning up from an end brace you need to look for if, while, do etc.etc. I always use braces, even with a single line. If, later on, I come back and need to add more cod to the If or the Else, then I insert it between the braces, and never forget - so I don't re-engineer

                      if (a==b)
                      printf("a is equal to b");

                      to

                      if (a==b)
                      printf("a is equal to b");
                      HandleCasesWhereaEqualsb();

                      With the advent of cleverer editors, with automatic indenting, highlighting of code blocks etc., the reasoniong becomes somewhat less important - but you don't get all of that when you open source in or print it (does anyone still print code?) And with the cost of VS2010 in the thousands, I can't guarantee that the editor of my choice will be on every workstation I need to edit on. Some of your reasoning is valid (in my view) but I always think that this obsession some programmers have with the reduction in keystrokes (I'd have to press TAB all the time to indent, I don't want to type two extra braces if I don't need to etc.) is plain silly. Much more time is spent looking at code than writing it - often looking for a problem, more often looking for divine intervention or, at least, inspiration!

                      ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      #33

                      10!

                      _Maxxx_ wrote:

                      does anyone still print code?)

                      Yes, but no so much anymore. I now print with Word -- half-inch margins and 8-point font, I get 112 characters per line. I need braces and such to stand out.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Use tabs - then you can set them to whatever indentation you (each) like!

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        #34

                        _Maxxx_ wrote:

                        whatever indentation you (each) like

                        Edit and Notepad insist on 8. X| And, even the otherwise fine Xacc.IDE doesn't adjust indents properly. (When last I tried.)

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                        • N Nikunj_Bhatt

                          Which method do u use for curly braces to create scope of a programming structure? I mostly prefer this method:

                          if(a>b)
                          { // sometimes i write comment here about logic and parameters etc.
                          print "b is less than or equal to a"
                          print "it means a is greater than b"
                          }
                          else
                          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"

                          Note that, I don't use braces for a single line of scope and I indent the starting brace and ending brace and it is not on the same line where the control structure is defined. I use this approach because it makes easy (just hit Enter key, no need to press Tab key) to add a new line of code after the staring brace and before the first statement of the block. I use Notepad++ and it has slightly good matching braces hilting feature and this method helps to correctly lineup and identify scope content. Here are some more methods used my many programmers:

                          if(a>b) { // this is Flash's ActionScript's default formatting, I hate this style the most, I feel it most unreadable, some Java programmers and web designers working on CSS also use almost similar method for writing CSS rules
                          print "b is less than or equal to a"
                          print "it means a is greater than b"
                          } else {
                          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                          }

                          if(a>b)
                          {
                          print "b is less than or equal to a"
                          print "it means a is greater than b"
                          }
                          else
                          {
                          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                          }

                          if(a>b)
                          { print "b is less than or equal to a"
                          print "it means a is greater than b"
                          }

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          #35

                          PIEBALD's general rule for code formatting (yes, there is one): Things that go together (e.g. parentheses, braces, brackets, etc.) should line up, either horizontally or vertically. Addendum: Separators in lists "go together" with the list designators. Ad nauseum: Be liberal in defining what qualifies as a "separator". :cool: If what you have fits horizontally, so be it, but things are likely to get more complex as they develop so you should plan ahead to avoid having to reformat later. Worrying about vertical space is for others, use as much as you like. Don't choose a style simply because others deride yours; they can reformat if they like.

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            _Maxxx_ wrote:

                            whatever indentation you (each) like

                            Edit and Notepad insist on 8. X| And, even the otherwise fine Xacc.IDE doesn't adjust indents properly. (When last I tried.)

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                            Lost User
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                            #36

                            If your tool is f*cked it's time to get a new tool.

                            ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                            • C Colin Rae

                              _Maxxx_ wrote:

                              If - well sure, but if you indented everything properly then you wouldn't need to have braces at all.

                              Damn compiler seems to want them for some reason...!

                              _Maxxx_ wrote:

                              scanning upward your eye is still looking for 'something' in that column

                              When I've got multiple nesting of braces it doesn't matter whether I'm looking for a brace or an "if" - it's still hard to find the one that lines up! You're right though. It's all personal taste and what you're used to. The one thing I probably hate more than anything is someone trying to impose their own standard as gospel. If I modify someone else's code, I use their style (though I may wince a little!).

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                              Lost User
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                              #37

                              Colin Rae wrote:

                              If I modify someone else's code, I use their style

                              Me too - though I once had a contractor working for me who seemed a little slow; it turned out that he didn't like the way we formatted code (this was Delphi code) so spent half of his time re-formatting it rather than doing anything useful. This all wouldn't have been quite so bad if it wasn't for the fact that he didn't like comments.. "People never maintain them, so they're worthless" was his reasoning. So whenever he came across any comment, he removed it!! I fired him.

                              ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                              • N Nikunj_Bhatt

                                Which method do u use for curly braces to create scope of a programming structure? I mostly prefer this method:

                                if(a>b)
                                { // sometimes i write comment here about logic and parameters etc.
                                print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                print "it means a is greater than b"
                                }
                                else
                                print "a is either either equal to or less than b"

                                Note that, I don't use braces for a single line of scope and I indent the starting brace and ending brace and it is not on the same line where the control structure is defined. I use this approach because it makes easy (just hit Enter key, no need to press Tab key) to add a new line of code after the staring brace and before the first statement of the block. I use Notepad++ and it has slightly good matching braces hilting feature and this method helps to correctly lineup and identify scope content. Here are some more methods used my many programmers:

                                if(a>b) { // this is Flash's ActionScript's default formatting, I hate this style the most, I feel it most unreadable, some Java programmers and web designers working on CSS also use almost similar method for writing CSS rules
                                print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                print "it means a is greater than b"
                                } else {
                                print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                }

                                if(a>b)
                                {
                                print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                print "it means a is greater than b"
                                }
                                else
                                {
                                print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                }

                                if(a>b)
                                { print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                print "it means a is greater than b"
                                }

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                                Peter Mulholland
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #38

                                I hope I never have to maintain any code you've written. This:

                                nikunjbhatt84 wrote:

                                if(a>b)

                                is just wrong. Use some whitespace!

                                if (a > b)
                                {
                                }

                                Pete

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                                • N Nikunj_Bhatt

                                  Which method do u use for curly braces to create scope of a programming structure? I mostly prefer this method:

                                  if(a>b)
                                  { // sometimes i write comment here about logic and parameters etc.
                                  print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                  print "it means a is greater than b"
                                  }
                                  else
                                  print "a is either either equal to or less than b"

                                  Note that, I don't use braces for a single line of scope and I indent the starting brace and ending brace and it is not on the same line where the control structure is defined. I use this approach because it makes easy (just hit Enter key, no need to press Tab key) to add a new line of code after the staring brace and before the first statement of the block. I use Notepad++ and it has slightly good matching braces hilting feature and this method helps to correctly lineup and identify scope content. Here are some more methods used my many programmers:

                                  if(a>b) { // this is Flash's ActionScript's default formatting, I hate this style the most, I feel it most unreadable, some Java programmers and web designers working on CSS also use almost similar method for writing CSS rules
                                  print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                  print "it means a is greater than b"
                                  } else {
                                  print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                  }

                                  if(a>b)
                                  {
                                  print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                  print "it means a is greater than b"
                                  }
                                  else
                                  {
                                  print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                  }

                                  if(a>b)
                                  { print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                  print "it means a is greater than b"
                                  }

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                                  Jonas Hammarberg
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                                  #39

                                  I used alt 2 for many years as it made it easy to see any missing code. These days I use condition { statement } condition { statement } Occasionally I use one-liners, eg. when it's just an test before one statement (two statement and there comes the curlies flying} As there are "prettifiers" available in most editors these days the subject is mot. Decide on one standard that all code should be formatted by before checking in and use what ever that makes you comfortable while coding.

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                                  • S Soulus83

                                    Code block is so long I can't see the voting bar! This is my preferred style:

                                    if(a>b)
                                    {
                                    print "b is less than or equal to a";
                                    print "it means a is greater than b";
                                    }

                                    Each curly brace on it's own line, don't know why but it helps me read the code :confused:

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                                    tom1443
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                                    I second that!

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                                    • C Colin Rae

                                      The proper way.

                                      if (something){
                                          do stuff
                                          do more stuff
                                      }
                                      else{
                                          do something different
                                      }
                                      

                                      Am I showing my age if I mention Kernighan and Ritchie? :)

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                                      Dan Neely
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #41

                                      Maybe, but IIRC K&R wrote their manuscript using this style originally:

                                      if (something)
                                      {
                                      do stuff
                                      do more stuff
                                      }
                                      else
                                      {
                                      do something different
                                      }

                                      It was changed at the publishers request to save on printing costs.

                                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                      • N Nikunj_Bhatt

                                        Which method do u use for curly braces to create scope of a programming structure? I mostly prefer this method:

                                        if(a>b)
                                        { // sometimes i write comment here about logic and parameters etc.
                                        print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                        print "it means a is greater than b"
                                        }
                                        else
                                        print "a is either either equal to or less than b"

                                        Note that, I don't use braces for a single line of scope and I indent the starting brace and ending brace and it is not on the same line where the control structure is defined. I use this approach because it makes easy (just hit Enter key, no need to press Tab key) to add a new line of code after the staring brace and before the first statement of the block. I use Notepad++ and it has slightly good matching braces hilting feature and this method helps to correctly lineup and identify scope content. Here are some more methods used my many programmers:

                                        if(a>b) { // this is Flash's ActionScript's default formatting, I hate this style the most, I feel it most unreadable, some Java programmers and web designers working on CSS also use almost similar method for writing CSS rules
                                        print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                        print "it means a is greater than b"
                                        } else {
                                        print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                        }

                                        if(a>b)
                                        {
                                        print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                        print "it means a is greater than b"
                                        }
                                        else
                                        {
                                        print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                        }

                                        if(a>b)
                                        { print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                        print "it means a is greater than b"
                                        }

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                                        AdamEcc
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                                        if(a>b)
                                        {
                                        print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                        print "it means a is greater than b"
                                        }
                                        else
                                        {
                                        print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                        }

                                        With the exception of single-statement getters/setters, in which case

                                        public int SomeProperty
                                        {
                                        get{return somePropertyValue;}
                                        set
                                        {
                                        if (value != somePropertyValue)
                                        {
                                        someProperty = value;
                                        // raise value changed event
                                        }
                                        }
                                        }

                                        I like that putting the open brace under the function / operation name makes it easy to spot where braces match up, but think it looks clunky when you only have a single line in a getter / setter.

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                                        • N Nikunj_Bhatt

                                          Which method do u use for curly braces to create scope of a programming structure? I mostly prefer this method:

                                          if(a>b)
                                          { // sometimes i write comment here about logic and parameters etc.
                                          print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                          print "it means a is greater than b"
                                          }
                                          else
                                          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"

                                          Note that, I don't use braces for a single line of scope and I indent the starting brace and ending brace and it is not on the same line where the control structure is defined. I use this approach because it makes easy (just hit Enter key, no need to press Tab key) to add a new line of code after the staring brace and before the first statement of the block. I use Notepad++ and it has slightly good matching braces hilting feature and this method helps to correctly lineup and identify scope content. Here are some more methods used my many programmers:

                                          if(a>b) { // this is Flash's ActionScript's default formatting, I hate this style the most, I feel it most unreadable, some Java programmers and web designers working on CSS also use almost similar method for writing CSS rules
                                          print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                          print "it means a is greater than b"
                                          } else {
                                          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                          }

                                          if(a>b)
                                          {
                                          print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                          print "it means a is greater than b"
                                          }
                                          else
                                          {
                                          print "a is either either equal to or less than b"
                                          }

                                          if(a>b)
                                          { print "b is less than or equal to a"
                                          print "it means a is greater than b"
                                          }

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                                          Nothing beats this, I'm sorry ;(

                                          if (a > b)
                                          {
                                          /* Code */
                                          }
                                          else if (c == d)
                                          {
                                          /* Code */
                                          }
                                          else
                                          {
                                          /* Code */
                                          }

                                          "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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