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  • P Pete OHanlon

    This[^] is why you should always pay your developers. Go to the site and view the page source.

    I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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    dawmail333
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    How stupid do you get? I would imagine almost all web developers would be well hardened individuals that add kill-switches to their code. I mean seriously, you task someone to design and present the face of your business, and try and steal their work? IDIOTS. The deserve all they get. :-\

    Don't forget to rate my post if it helped! ;) "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." "His mother should have thrown him away, and kept the stork." "There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure." "He loves nature, in spite of what it did to him."

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      This[^] is why you should always pay your developers. Go to the site and view the page source.

      I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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      kiLLe_512
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      I cannot view source. What did I miss?

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        This[^] is why you should always pay your developers. Go to the site and view the page source.

        I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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        ciricivan
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        The KING :)

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          This[^] is why you should always pay your developers. Go to the site and view the page source.

          I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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          ely_bob
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          Those Developers... FTW!! ;P

          I'd blame it on the Brain farts.. But let's be honest, it really is more like a Methane factory between my ears some days then it is anything else...
          -----
          "The conversations he was having with himself were becoming ominous."-.. On the radio...

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          • K kiLLe_512

            I cannot view source. What did I miss?

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            Kent K
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            You have to actually go to the url - the OP had only a link to an image taken from the site mentioned.

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            • K kiLLe_512

              I cannot view source. What did I miss?

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              thartdyke
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              Go to www.utilitybidder.co.uk[^], not utilitybidder.co.uk - they're different.

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              • K kiLLe_512

                I cannot view source. What did I miss?

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                mathomp3
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                You may wonder why this site is offline, if you are reading the source then you are most probably a web developer that has been paid to change this. I put this here as the company in question broke our contract and left payments outstanding, as a last resort I put their site offline, what else could I do. Make sure you are paid up front, even if you have a contract, they aint worth shit. That is the basic comment at the bottom of the source code. It's super funny and I have had to do similar things. Once company had me build a huge database driven site with customer preferences stored in the database etc. Was a great site, users could log in choose a template, make color changes etc, then save it and be good to go. The company wanted it stored in the database so it would remain the same no matter what machine the user used. Well two things they forgot 1, I was the database host, and 2 they forgot to send the big check. I got some up front money etc, but the main part of the work wasn't paid for. They pulled me as the web host but left my database tied to the site. about 30k users had setup their templates etc. I guess they were hoping for me to forget about them using my database. Being kind and such, I let them continue to use my database, but just cause I could I setup random generators for various template fields in the database. One day suzzies template would be blue back ground white text, the next green back ground yellow text. Was hilarious to see the feedback the company got. Once again being my database and the feedback system being tied to it. I got to see the carnage. About 2 months of people complaining the site was broken, and things weren't working etc. I got a phone call, asking if I had any idea why the site would just stop working. I said no idea did they check the database? The phone hung up. I laughed a bunch, and the next day I got a phone call again, asking about where the database was. I told them it was still on my servers, and they put two and two together at that point, and asked if something had changed with the database. I said yeap, I use it as a test server for sql code now. It was at that point they had the guts to ask me to provide them with a copy of the database for free so they could host it with their new host. I said sure not a problem, just go to my google pay account and buy a copy of the database. I had setup an item in my store, named StupidPeople's database backup. I said once payment had cleared they would have the disk mailed to them. The payment was what t

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                • M mathomp3

                  You may wonder why this site is offline, if you are reading the source then you are most probably a web developer that has been paid to change this. I put this here as the company in question broke our contract and left payments outstanding, as a last resort I put their site offline, what else could I do. Make sure you are paid up front, even if you have a contract, they aint worth shit. That is the basic comment at the bottom of the source code. It's super funny and I have had to do similar things. Once company had me build a huge database driven site with customer preferences stored in the database etc. Was a great site, users could log in choose a template, make color changes etc, then save it and be good to go. The company wanted it stored in the database so it would remain the same no matter what machine the user used. Well two things they forgot 1, I was the database host, and 2 they forgot to send the big check. I got some up front money etc, but the main part of the work wasn't paid for. They pulled me as the web host but left my database tied to the site. about 30k users had setup their templates etc. I guess they were hoping for me to forget about them using my database. Being kind and such, I let them continue to use my database, but just cause I could I setup random generators for various template fields in the database. One day suzzies template would be blue back ground white text, the next green back ground yellow text. Was hilarious to see the feedback the company got. Once again being my database and the feedback system being tied to it. I got to see the carnage. About 2 months of people complaining the site was broken, and things weren't working etc. I got a phone call, asking if I had any idea why the site would just stop working. I said no idea did they check the database? The phone hung up. I laughed a bunch, and the next day I got a phone call again, asking about where the database was. I told them it was still on my servers, and they put two and two together at that point, and asked if something had changed with the database. I said yeap, I use it as a test server for sql code now. It was at that point they had the guts to ask me to provide them with a copy of the database for free so they could host it with their new host. I said sure not a problem, just go to my google pay account and buy a copy of the database. I had setup an item in my store, named StupidPeople's database backup. I said once payment had cleared they would have the disk mailed to them. The payment was what t

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                  Avinash Tauro
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                  Could'nt stop laughing. Still am. :D

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    This[^] is why you should always pay your developers. Go to the site and view the page source.

                    I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    YSLGuru
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                    While the developer was completely in the right about being upset with not getting paid he/she went about teh wrong way. There's nothing wrong with putting in place time limited functionality (sometimes referred to as Kill switches) to ensure you aren't left out to dry. This however borders on defamation and could be cause for legal action. Granted if they pursued it they most certainly would end up being required to pay the developer what they owed him however in the end t could hurt the guys rep and make future gigs harder. What company wants to hire someone who has proven they will do this kind of thing if they become disgruntled? Its not about whether he was in teh right but the expectation of what he may do in the future. I would have suggested doing everything except for the snide comment. Let me reiterate, I am not against doing something that renders something unusable after an acceptable time period when service rendered have not been paid; only that I would do it without the comments.

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                    • M mathomp3

                      You may wonder why this site is offline, if you are reading the source then you are most probably a web developer that has been paid to change this. I put this here as the company in question broke our contract and left payments outstanding, as a last resort I put their site offline, what else could I do. Make sure you are paid up front, even if you have a contract, they aint worth shit. That is the basic comment at the bottom of the source code. It's super funny and I have had to do similar things. Once company had me build a huge database driven site with customer preferences stored in the database etc. Was a great site, users could log in choose a template, make color changes etc, then save it and be good to go. The company wanted it stored in the database so it would remain the same no matter what machine the user used. Well two things they forgot 1, I was the database host, and 2 they forgot to send the big check. I got some up front money etc, but the main part of the work wasn't paid for. They pulled me as the web host but left my database tied to the site. about 30k users had setup their templates etc. I guess they were hoping for me to forget about them using my database. Being kind and such, I let them continue to use my database, but just cause I could I setup random generators for various template fields in the database. One day suzzies template would be blue back ground white text, the next green back ground yellow text. Was hilarious to see the feedback the company got. Once again being my database and the feedback system being tied to it. I got to see the carnage. About 2 months of people complaining the site was broken, and things weren't working etc. I got a phone call, asking if I had any idea why the site would just stop working. I said no idea did they check the database? The phone hung up. I laughed a bunch, and the next day I got a phone call again, asking about where the database was. I told them it was still on my servers, and they put two and two together at that point, and asked if something had changed with the database. I said yeap, I use it as a test server for sql code now. It was at that point they had the guts to ask me to provide them with a copy of the database for free so they could host it with their new host. I said sure not a problem, just go to my google pay account and buy a copy of the database. I had setup an item in my store, named StupidPeople's database backup. I said once payment had cleared they would have the disk mailed to them. The payment was what t

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                      YSLGuru
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                      @mathomp3 Now what you did is a perfect example of how to handle these kinds of things. Kudos to you. It’s a shame that often non-technical business decision makers (meaning any board member other than the CTO) cannot see the value in computer technology work that doesn’t include physical hardware. I used to work for a software company that marketed to a very vertical industry and that industry was very old school when it came to technology opting to use paper over computers when possible. And when they did switch to software they couldn’t believe it as more then 1000 for an enterprise level accounting package that accommodates dozens of user simultaneously. After all they could buy Quicken at Sams Club for $39, $20 after the mail in rebate. And yet these same folks had no problem paying $25k (that’s right 25 thousand dollars) to plant a few dozen bushes around their office building.

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                      • D dawmail333

                        How stupid do you get? I would imagine almost all web developers would be well hardened individuals that add kill-switches to their code. I mean seriously, you task someone to design and present the face of your business, and try and steal their work? IDIOTS. The deserve all they get. :-\

                        Don't forget to rate my post if it helped! ;) "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." "His mother should have thrown him away, and kept the stork." "There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure." "He loves nature, in spite of what it did to him."

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                        jschell
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                        dawmail333 wrote:

                        that add kill-switches to their code

                        I believe that in the US, excluding explicit contract language, that doing that opens up the developer to losing in a civil suit. It might even be criminal.

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                          While the developer was completely in the right about being upset with not getting paid he/she went about teh wrong way. There's nothing wrong with putting in place time limited functionality (sometimes referred to as Kill switches) to ensure you aren't left out to dry. This however borders on defamation and could be cause for legal action. Granted if they pursued it they most certainly would end up being required to pay the developer what they owed him however in the end t could hurt the guys rep and make future gigs harder. What company wants to hire someone who has proven they will do this kind of thing if they become disgruntled? Its not about whether he was in teh right but the expectation of what he may do in the future. I would have suggested doing everything except for the snide comment. Let me reiterate, I am not against doing something that renders something unusable after an acceptable time period when service rendered have not been paid; only that I would do it without the comments.

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                          Fabio Franco
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                          I'll have to agree with you here. I don't need to trash the company's reputation, despite my feelings for it. I would put the website offline though, as this would be an incentive for them to pay me and they would have no grounds to trash my name to other possible contractors. I did find that funny though, and I wouldn't work for them :)

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                            dawmail333 wrote:

                            that add kill-switches to their code

                            I believe that in the US, excluding explicit contract language, that doing that opens up the developer to losing in a civil suit. It might even be criminal.

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                            dawmail333
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                            Which is why you write these terms into your contract ;)

                            Don't forget to rate my post if it helped! ;) "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." "His mother should have thrown him away, and kept the stork." "There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure." "He loves nature, in spite of what it did to him."

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                            • K Kent K

                              You have to actually go to the url - the OP had only a link to an image taken from the site mentioned.

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                              kiLLe_512
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                              Thanks. LOL. Serves em right eh?!

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                              • M mathomp3

                                You may wonder why this site is offline, if you are reading the source then you are most probably a web developer that has been paid to change this. I put this here as the company in question broke our contract and left payments outstanding, as a last resort I put their site offline, what else could I do. Make sure you are paid up front, even if you have a contract, they aint worth shit. That is the basic comment at the bottom of the source code. It's super funny and I have had to do similar things. Once company had me build a huge database driven site with customer preferences stored in the database etc. Was a great site, users could log in choose a template, make color changes etc, then save it and be good to go. The company wanted it stored in the database so it would remain the same no matter what machine the user used. Well two things they forgot 1, I was the database host, and 2 they forgot to send the big check. I got some up front money etc, but the main part of the work wasn't paid for. They pulled me as the web host but left my database tied to the site. about 30k users had setup their templates etc. I guess they were hoping for me to forget about them using my database. Being kind and such, I let them continue to use my database, but just cause I could I setup random generators for various template fields in the database. One day suzzies template would be blue back ground white text, the next green back ground yellow text. Was hilarious to see the feedback the company got. Once again being my database and the feedback system being tied to it. I got to see the carnage. About 2 months of people complaining the site was broken, and things weren't working etc. I got a phone call, asking if I had any idea why the site would just stop working. I said no idea did they check the database? The phone hung up. I laughed a bunch, and the next day I got a phone call again, asking about where the database was. I told them it was still on my servers, and they put two and two together at that point, and asked if something had changed with the database. I said yeap, I use it as a test server for sql code now. It was at that point they had the guts to ask me to provide them with a copy of the database for free so they could host it with their new host. I said sure not a problem, just go to my google pay account and buy a copy of the database. I had setup an item in my store, named StupidPeople's database backup. I said once payment had cleared they would have the disk mailed to them. The payment was what t

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                                kiLLe_512
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                                Lol. Funny story. My sides are hurting, I laughed so loud! Way to go!

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