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  • L Lost User

    Thinking about buying an eReader and as always, I am the most impatient man in the world and want it now. I am looking at a couple of them now and want some feedback from others who use these devices and maybe able to point me in the direction of an ereader I don't know about or tell me why the ones I am looking at suck arse. 1st is the Kindle[^], it's $139.00 which is good,but I have to but it online and wait 3-5 days for delivery, that's like asking me to wait for beer. Also read that it's handling of PDFs, specifically zooming is not that good. More books available via Amazon. 2nd is the Sony Reader Touch Edition PRS-650[^], I can walk over to Border's at lunch and pick one up, but it's RRP is $229.00. Reviews tell me the PDF handling is superior including zooming and it has memory expansion via SD Card or Memory Stick Pro. Less books as partnered with Borders and Angus & Robertson. Give me recommendations, as I know I will go and buy the Sony on impulse, even though it is over my budget of $250.00, which was to include accessories and probably some books.

    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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    Rod Kemp
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    Borders also have the Kobo eReader[^], it does do PDF, no idea what it is like but maybe they would let you compare it to the Sony and at only $179 it's worth a look.

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    • L Lost User

      Josh Gray wrote:

      So the real question is - does the difference in comfort between using an eReader and a netbook justify the price?

      Nah, I've squirrelled away the money and it's going to be spent, just hoping to spend it on something useful. The Lenovo S10e is a netbook, Atom 1.6GHz CPU, 2GB RAM and running Windows 7. I'm hoping not to spent $300.00 odd when I can get something as good or better for more like $150.00. The Kindle by all reckoning is the device to go with, but the books are not stored on the device (therefore backed up to my PC/Server/Backup USB HDD), I don't know if I can load PDF's I already have to it and also as the Most Impatient Man in the Universe, I want the fucking thing now. I want to walk over to Macquarie Centrein the next half an hour and walk out with one in my hands.

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      AspDotNetDev
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      Michael Martin wrote:

      I don't know if I can load PDF's I already have to it

      Last I heard, you email the PDF's to some Amazon service, and they convert it for you and send it to your Kindle. Or something funky like that. I think it takes a matter of seconds.

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      • C Christian Graus

        An iPad is the only sensible option. It's a backlit Kindle, has another book store you can access, will hold all your photos, plays games, reads your mail and gives you web browsing and games.

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        AspDotNetDev
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        I was under the impression that the lack of a backlight was a feature. Supposedly, the Kindle is very much like paper, so it is very easy on the eyes. Or so I'm told.

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          RichardM1 wrote:

          It's this really cool stuff: Books.

          Expensive (comparitively), bulky and I've no more room to place new books. Covered this in my reply to Josh.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          RichardM1
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          Yup. Good luck with the training & looking. I don't know about Oz, but it's a tough market is the US.

          Opacity, the new Transparency.

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          • A AspDotNetDev

            I was under the impression that the lack of a backlight was a feature. Supposedly, the Kindle is very much like paper, so it is very easy on the eyes. Or so I'm told.

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            RichardM1
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            Clearly YOU don't own an iXxx, or you would know enough not to argue. ;P

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              :laugh: :laugh:

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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                There is also the fact that you do not hold the books on the device, but on an account so you can load them to any kindle enabled device

                So what do I do with the PDF books I have on my computer that I want to read on the Kindle if I get one?

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                I've herd of 'Duokan's firmware' for Kindle. Supposedly it handles PDF's (and more) a lot better than Kindle's firmware. I have not tried it myself (Chinese hacking skills scare me :-D ) , so I can't really advise for or against it, just thought I can mention it's out there. Anyway, you may want to google for 'duokan' A couple of guys here[^] seem to like it.

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                • A AspDotNetDev

                  I was under the impression that the lack of a backlight was a feature. Supposedly, the Kindle is very much like paper, so it is very easy on the eyes. Or so I'm told.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  In theory, and yet, when I read in bed, I don't need a light, and when friends with a Kindle read in bed, they do.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Thinking about buying an eReader and as always, I am the most impatient man in the world and want it now. I am looking at a couple of them now and want some feedback from others who use these devices and maybe able to point me in the direction of an ereader I don't know about or tell me why the ones I am looking at suck arse. 1st is the Kindle[^], it's $139.00 which is good,but I have to but it online and wait 3-5 days for delivery, that's like asking me to wait for beer. Also read that it's handling of PDFs, specifically zooming is not that good. More books available via Amazon. 2nd is the Sony Reader Touch Edition PRS-650[^], I can walk over to Border's at lunch and pick one up, but it's RRP is $229.00. Reviews tell me the PDF handling is superior including zooming and it has memory expansion via SD Card or Memory Stick Pro. Less books as partnered with Borders and Angus & Robertson. Give me recommendations, as I know I will go and buy the Sony on impulse, even though it is over my budget of $250.00, which was to include accessories and probably some books.

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                    My Kindle Experience: 2-3 days? Lucky you. I had to wait for 2 months - but then, I'm in one of these backwater Youropin countries. Reasons for picking the kindle: All reviews / comparisons I found agreed that the kindle has by far the best display. XKCD[^] reddit[^] (free 3G ist the $189 version, though.) Reading PDF's is usually OK in landscape format. (You can zoom etc., but that's not fun for reading, in landscape, zoom isn't necessary). Conversion of PDF's works well for text (recommended), but I never found a PDF where all images where converted correctly. I didn't try to many converters, though. The web browsing is "experimental" and at least for me limited to selected sites (i.e. I can use wikipedia, but I can't google). I am not sure how that is in the US version. Still, it was a selling point. UI is not smooth for that - touch would work better, and the four way controller is a bit flimsy for heavy use, but it works. I now have it for about a month, and still love it. It's great great great for continuous reading. I'm a bit set back for reading technical documents which often need jumping around. The firmware certainly can be improved, but all improvements I can think of are no match for our "paper navigation skills". OTOH I use it to collect PDF documents I "should read sooner or later", and indeed do, so it works better than that "Read!" bookmarks my browser has.

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                    • R RichardM1

                      It's this really cool stuff: Books.

                      Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                      peterchen
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                      Bulky, especially. When I'm on vacation, my backpack got the nickname "Library", for a reason.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        I like the interviews.

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                        Steve Mayfield
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                        The left one or the right one? ... Or do you prefer to see the lips flap :-O

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                        • L Lost User

                          Thinking about buying an eReader and as always, I am the most impatient man in the world and want it now. I am looking at a couple of them now and want some feedback from others who use these devices and maybe able to point me in the direction of an ereader I don't know about or tell me why the ones I am looking at suck arse. 1st is the Kindle[^], it's $139.00 which is good,but I have to but it online and wait 3-5 days for delivery, that's like asking me to wait for beer. Also read that it's handling of PDFs, specifically zooming is not that good. More books available via Amazon. 2nd is the Sony Reader Touch Edition PRS-650[^], I can walk over to Border's at lunch and pick one up, but it's RRP is $229.00. Reviews tell me the PDF handling is superior including zooming and it has memory expansion via SD Card or Memory Stick Pro. Less books as partnered with Borders and Angus & Robertson. Give me recommendations, as I know I will go and buy the Sony on impulse, even though it is over my budget of $250.00, which was to include accessories and probably some books.

                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                          Chris Quinn
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                          My Mother in law, who is in her mid 70's, recently was given the Sony machine as a present and absolutely loves it. She has always been a voracious reader, but has got fed up of having so many books scattered about the house. The Sony fits in her poket and goes everywhere with her. As it is possible to change the text size of these readers, I am thinking of getting one for my mother, who is partially sighted. These days she normally just listens to audiobooks. The Sony does not have mp3 functionality, but the Kindle does, so if getting one for her I would have to go with a reader that offers both types of functionality

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                          • L Lost User

                            Thinking about buying an eReader and as always, I am the most impatient man in the world and want it now. I am looking at a couple of them now and want some feedback from others who use these devices and maybe able to point me in the direction of an ereader I don't know about or tell me why the ones I am looking at suck arse. 1st is the Kindle[^], it's $139.00 which is good,but I have to but it online and wait 3-5 days for delivery, that's like asking me to wait for beer. Also read that it's handling of PDFs, specifically zooming is not that good. More books available via Amazon. 2nd is the Sony Reader Touch Edition PRS-650[^], I can walk over to Border's at lunch and pick one up, but it's RRP is $229.00. Reviews tell me the PDF handling is superior including zooming and it has memory expansion via SD Card or Memory Stick Pro. Less books as partnered with Borders and Angus & Robertson. Give me recommendations, as I know I will go and buy the Sony on impulse, even though it is over my budget of $250.00, which was to include accessories and probably some books.

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            Kindle, without hesitation. Brilliant piece of kit that does one thing and does it well. I agree that pdfs aren't that great so I keep them on the pc and will, as required, buy them new for the Kindle.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Thinking about buying an eReader and as always, I am the most impatient man in the world and want it now. I am looking at a couple of them now and want some feedback from others who use these devices and maybe able to point me in the direction of an ereader I don't know about or tell me why the ones I am looking at suck arse. 1st is the Kindle[^], it's $139.00 which is good,but I have to but it online and wait 3-5 days for delivery, that's like asking me to wait for beer. Also read that it's handling of PDFs, specifically zooming is not that good. More books available via Amazon. 2nd is the Sony Reader Touch Edition PRS-650[^], I can walk over to Border's at lunch and pick one up, but it's RRP is $229.00. Reviews tell me the PDF handling is superior including zooming and it has memory expansion via SD Card or Memory Stick Pro. Less books as partnered with Borders and Angus & Robertson. Give me recommendations, as I know I will go and buy the Sony on impulse, even though it is over my budget of $250.00, which was to include accessories and probably some books.

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                              Whichever you go for, Calibre[^] is a very good way to manage your e-books.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Thinking about buying an eReader and as always, I am the most impatient man in the world and want it now. I am looking at a couple of them now and want some feedback from others who use these devices and maybe able to point me in the direction of an ereader I don't know about or tell me why the ones I am looking at suck arse. 1st is the Kindle[^], it's $139.00 which is good,but I have to but it online and wait 3-5 days for delivery, that's like asking me to wait for beer. Also read that it's handling of PDFs, specifically zooming is not that good. More books available via Amazon. 2nd is the Sony Reader Touch Edition PRS-650[^], I can walk over to Border's at lunch and pick one up, but it's RRP is $229.00. Reviews tell me the PDF handling is superior including zooming and it has memory expansion via SD Card or Memory Stick Pro. Less books as partnered with Borders and Angus & Robertson. Give me recommendations, as I know I will go and buy the Sony on impulse, even though it is over my budget of $250.00, which was to include accessories and probably some books.

                                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                This one.[^]

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Thinking about buying an eReader and as always, I am the most impatient man in the world and want it now. I am looking at a couple of them now and want some feedback from others who use these devices and maybe able to point me in the direction of an ereader I don't know about or tell me why the ones I am looking at suck arse. 1st is the Kindle[^], it's $139.00 which is good,but I have to but it online and wait 3-5 days for delivery, that's like asking me to wait for beer. Also read that it's handling of PDFs, specifically zooming is not that good. More books available via Amazon. 2nd is the Sony Reader Touch Edition PRS-650[^], I can walk over to Border's at lunch and pick one up, but it's RRP is $229.00. Reviews tell me the PDF handling is superior including zooming and it has memory expansion via SD Card or Memory Stick Pro. Less books as partnered with Borders and Angus & Robertson. Give me recommendations, as I know I will go and buy the Sony on impulse, even though it is over my budget of $250.00, which was to include accessories and probably some books.

                                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                  Marc A Brown
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                                  I've had a Nook WiFi since late November and love it. I believe it handled PDF as well, though I haven't tried any.

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                                    Thinking about buying an eReader and as always, I am the most impatient man in the world and want it now. I am looking at a couple of them now and want some feedback from others who use these devices and maybe able to point me in the direction of an ereader I don't know about or tell me why the ones I am looking at suck arse. 1st is the Kindle[^], it's $139.00 which is good,but I have to but it online and wait 3-5 days for delivery, that's like asking me to wait for beer. Also read that it's handling of PDFs, specifically zooming is not that good. More books available via Amazon. 2nd is the Sony Reader Touch Edition PRS-650[^], I can walk over to Border's at lunch and pick one up, but it's RRP is $229.00. Reviews tell me the PDF handling is superior including zooming and it has memory expansion via SD Card or Memory Stick Pro. Less books as partnered with Borders and Angus & Robertson. Give me recommendations, as I know I will go and buy the Sony on impulse, even though it is over my budget of $250.00, which was to include accessories and probably some books.

                                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Anything but Sony. They need to burn in hell for their crimes against technology. If instant gratification is important, check your local electronics boxmarts. I know several US retail chains now carry Kindles.

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                                    • A AspDotNetDev

                                      If I had $250 to spend on an eReader, I'd get the Nook Color. Then again, I don't have $250 to spend on an eReader, so I haven't researched it much.

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                                      the best reason to get a nook, from a friend of mine. "If you buy amazon's reader you only have fire starting material, but if you get B&N's you have nookie." :laugh:

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        There is also the fact that you do not hold the books on the device, but on an account so you can load them to any kindle enabled device

                                        So what do I do with the PDF books I have on my computer that I want to read on the Kindle if I get one?

                                        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        Theoretically, Calibre will convert from PDF to epub (which I believe is what the Kindle uses). Don't know about DRMed PDFs, though. You should have Calibre, anyway, just for library maintenance. EDIT: Oops. Kindle doesn't epub. Waste of time then, don't get it. Get a Nook or something. If it won't support the worldwide open standard, what use is it?

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          In theory, and yet, when I read in bed, I don't need a light, and when friends with a Kindle read in bed, they do.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          And you recharge yours every day? And they recharge theirs every month? :)

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