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  • R Rob Philpott

    Come over to the UK - it would be free then. But seriously, it doesn't sound that bad to me. You're not paying just for stitches but also expert opinion that they'll suffice from somebody who has spent years and years and years in training. One of my friends has recently made it to consultant level, and from the start of his medical degree that has been 21 years in the making.

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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    Rob Philpott wrote:

    Come over to the UK - it would be free then.

    No it isn't, the NHS is only free at the point of delivery. You pay for it through taxes.

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      Insure and be secure. you can claim that money from your insurance agent.

      Regards, Koushik. Most people never run far enough on their first wind to find out if they've got a second. Give your dreams all you've got and you'll be amazed at the energy that comes out of you.

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      The excess would be more than that :doh:

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      • R Rob Philpott

        Come over to the UK - it would be free then. But seriously, it doesn't sound that bad to me. You're not paying just for stitches but also expert opinion that they'll suffice from somebody who has spent years and years and years in training. One of my friends has recently made it to consultant level, and from the start of his medical degree that has been 21 years in the making.

        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        NormDroid
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        Rob Philpott wrote:

        it would be free then

        But the time he got to have the treatment the wound would of healed and scarred :)

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          Rob Philpott wrote:

          it would be free then

          But the time he got to have the treatment the wound would of healed and scarred :)

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          Phil J Pearson
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          That, of course, is rubbish. At worst you would suffer a worrying and frustrating wait of a few hours for treatment. More likely, if a child is involved, treatment would be started within minutes of arrival at A & E.

          Phil


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          • P Phil J Pearson

            That, of course, is rubbish. At worst you would suffer a worrying and frustrating wait of a few hours for treatment. More likely, if a child is involved, treatment would be started within minutes of arrival at A & E.

            Phil


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            NormDroid
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            Phil J Pearson wrote:

            frustrating wait of a few hours f

            More like days... Don't tell me, you know somebody who works for the NHS.

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              Rob Philpott wrote:

              Come over to the UK - it would be free then.

              No it isn't, the NHS is only free at the point of delivery. You pay for it through taxes.

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              viaducting wrote:

              You pay for it through taxes

              Dearly, and NI was supposed to be for the NHS, which it isn't. Also why do you pay taxes when we can't find a NHS dentist - it gets my back up. Scrap it all and make every one pay private.

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                Phil J Pearson wrote:

                frustrating wait of a few hours f

                More like days... Don't tell me, you know somebody who works for the NHS.

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                Phil J Pearson
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                My experience of the NHS is as a parent whose children have needed treatment from time to time. We have seen some appallingly bad service on occasions, sometimes having had to wait for almost 45 minutes before getting attention. On a few occasions the useless and uncaring staff even forgot to offer us a cup of tea while we were waiting. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often or we would have moved to another country. The problem is then that you have to prove your ability to pay (a lot!) before being seen and they probably don't know how to make tea anyway. ;P :-D

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                • P Phil J Pearson

                  My experience of the NHS is as a parent whose children have needed treatment from time to time. We have seen some appallingly bad service on occasions, sometimes having had to wait for almost 45 minutes before getting attention. On a few occasions the useless and uncaring staff even forgot to offer us a cup of tea while we were waiting. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often or we would have moved to another country. The problem is then that you have to prove your ability to pay (a lot!) before being seen and they probably don't know how to make tea anyway. ;P :-D

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                  Phil J Pearson wrote:

                  sometimes having had to wait for almost 45 minutes before getting attention.

                  So I see that this "waiting" is an international phenomena. We have the same problem here in the States. :(

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                    Phil J Pearson wrote:

                    sometimes having had to wait for almost 45 minutes before getting attention.

                    So I see that this "waiting" is an international phenomena. We have the same problem here in the States. :(

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                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    an international phenomena

                    In England (and English) it's a phenomenon. ;P

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                    • P Phil J Pearson

                      Slacker007 wrote:

                      an international phenomena

                      In England (and English) it's a phenomenon. ;P

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                      Phil J Pearson wrote:

                      In England (and English) it's a phenomenon.

                      Phenomena is a word. It's in the dictionary. ;P ;P

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                      • N NormDroid

                        Phil J Pearson wrote:

                        frustrating wait of a few hours f

                        More like days... Don't tell me, you know somebody who works for the NHS.

                        Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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                        My nephew recently fell on a train and did a similar thing to his lip. The train staff took him and my sister into a quiet room and applied first aid, then called an ambulance to take him and her to the nearest casualty unit. He was seen by a doctor within ten minutes of arrival, who called in the on-call plastic surgeon. The first stitch was applied within another 10 minutes, and he was home within two hours (including journey time). He had a couple of trips to his local hospital - one checkup, and one for stitch removal, and the plastic surgeon did such a good job that there is virtually no sign of a scar. All this cost a grand total of £0, with no need of a walletectomy at the casualty unit, and no referral to the Death Panel! If that's socialism - give me more!

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                        • C Chris Quinn

                          My nephew recently fell on a train and did a similar thing to his lip. The train staff took him and my sister into a quiet room and applied first aid, then called an ambulance to take him and her to the nearest casualty unit. He was seen by a doctor within ten minutes of arrival, who called in the on-call plastic surgeon. The first stitch was applied within another 10 minutes, and he was home within two hours (including journey time). He had a couple of trips to his local hospital - one checkup, and one for stitch removal, and the plastic surgeon did such a good job that there is virtually no sign of a scar. All this cost a grand total of £0, with no need of a walletectomy at the casualty unit, and no referral to the Death Panel! If that's socialism - give me more!

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                          NormDroid
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                          Don't forget you pay through the nose for this. Probably cheap with a private Bupa contract if we could only deduct it from our taxes :sigh:

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                            Don't forget you pay through the nose for this. Probably cheap with a private Bupa contract if we could only deduct it from our taxes :sigh:

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                            I'm happy to pay it to provide universal care, rather than pay for some CEO's Rolls Royce!

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                              Don't forget you pay through the nose for this. Probably cheap with a private Bupa contract if we could only deduct it from our taxes :sigh:

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                              By what estimation do you "pay through the nose"? I grant that the NHS is a big,unwieldy bureaucracy and probably very inefficient but is it really any more expensive than if it was run and paid for by profit-making companies (especially the insurance companies)? I grant that you pay for it, even if you don't use it but that's true of many kinds of insurance you choose (or are obliged) to pay for. Like other kinds of insurance, too, you certainly are grateful for it when you do need it. Incidentally, even when BUPA provide their own hospitals they usually employ staff trained by the NHS.

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                                Phil J Pearson wrote:

                                In England (and English) it's a phenomenon.

                                Phenomena is a word. It's in the dictionary. ;P ;P

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                                Sentence construction involves more than just random assembly of words found in a dictionary. Try creating a program by random assembly of keywords, operators and variable names! ;P ;P ;P ;P

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                                • P Phil J Pearson

                                  Sentence construction involves more than just random assembly of words found in a dictionary. Try creating a program by random assembly of keywords, operators and variable names! ;P ;P ;P ;P

                                  Phil


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                                  Yeah. I'll be sure to get right on that. Not. ;P x infinity. I'm rubber, you're glue, what ever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. :laugh: :laugh:

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                                    Insure and be secure. you can claim that money from your insurance agent.

                                    Regards, Koushik. Most people never run far enough on their first wind to find out if they've got a second. Give your dreams all you've got and you'll be amazed at the energy that comes out of you.

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                                    We are insured - but because it wasn't treated in a hospital it's not covered :(

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                                    • S Slacker007

                                      How much did you pay out of pocket? 75 Australian dollars or 450 dollars - just confused here with what you meant. I am lucky enough that my insurance would have covered all of this minus the nominal deductible ($25 US). I had an operation once and was in the hospital for 5.5 days and the bill was $30K U.S. but all I had to pay was a $500 deductible. I am very lucky to have good insurance. My kids use my insurance more than I do. I am glad to hear that your child will be OK. :thumbsup:

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                                      Out of pocket was $450. OUr health service picks up some, but the insurance won't cover it in the Dr./s rooms for whatever reason. If we had waited then we could have had the same thing done by the same doctor for slightly more money, in a hospital, and the health fund would have paid most of it.

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                                      • R Rob Philpott

                                        Come over to the UK - it would be free then. But seriously, it doesn't sound that bad to me. You're not paying just for stitches but also expert opinion that they'll suffice from somebody who has spent years and years and years in training. One of my friends has recently made it to consultant level, and from the start of his medical degree that has been 21 years in the making.

                                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                        Rob Philpott wrote:

                                        from the start of his medical degree that has been 21 years in the making.

                                        That mean's he's not very good, then?

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                                        • D Dan Neely

                                          IF your doctor didn't mention it, you can get a cream (ointment) of some sort that helps prevent scarring. A few years ago my Mom used it after she fell and put a tooth through her lip. If you don't know it's there you won't notice the scar.

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                                          The doc was actually pretty up front about that - the problem was that there was a piece of lip missing - which would have left a dent. Not good for snogging.

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