Ouuuuuchhhhhh!
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My experience of the NHS is as a parent whose children have needed treatment from time to time. We have seen some appallingly bad service on occasions, sometimes having had to wait for almost 45 minutes before getting attention. On a few occasions the useless and uncaring staff even forgot to offer us a cup of tea while we were waiting. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often or we would have moved to another country. The problem is then that you have to prove your ability to pay (a lot!) before being seen and they probably don't know how to make tea anyway. ;P :-D
Phil
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Phil J Pearson wrote:
sometimes having had to wait for almost 45 minutes before getting attention.
So I see that this "waiting" is an international phenomena. We have the same problem here in the States. :(
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Phil J Pearson wrote:
sometimes having had to wait for almost 45 minutes before getting attention.
So I see that this "waiting" is an international phenomena. We have the same problem here in the States. :(
Slacker007 wrote:
an international phenomena
In England (and English) it's a phenomenon. ;P
Phil
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Slacker007 wrote:
an international phenomena
In England (and English) it's a phenomenon. ;P
Phil
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Phil J Pearson wrote:
In England (and English) it's a phenomenon.
Phenomena is a word. It's in the dictionary. ;P ;P
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Phil J Pearson wrote:
frustrating wait of a few hours f
More like days... Don't tell me, you know somebody who works for the NHS.
My nephew recently fell on a train and did a similar thing to his lip. The train staff took him and my sister into a quiet room and applied first aid, then called an ambulance to take him and her to the nearest casualty unit. He was seen by a doctor within ten minutes of arrival, who called in the on-call plastic surgeon. The first stitch was applied within another 10 minutes, and he was home within two hours (including journey time). He had a couple of trips to his local hospital - one checkup, and one for stitch removal, and the plastic surgeon did such a good job that there is virtually no sign of a scar. All this cost a grand total of £0, with no need of a walletectomy at the casualty unit, and no referral to the Death Panel! If that's socialism - give me more!
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My nephew recently fell on a train and did a similar thing to his lip. The train staff took him and my sister into a quiet room and applied first aid, then called an ambulance to take him and her to the nearest casualty unit. He was seen by a doctor within ten minutes of arrival, who called in the on-call plastic surgeon. The first stitch was applied within another 10 minutes, and he was home within two hours (including journey time). He had a couple of trips to his local hospital - one checkup, and one for stitch removal, and the plastic surgeon did such a good job that there is virtually no sign of a scar. All this cost a grand total of £0, with no need of a walletectomy at the casualty unit, and no referral to the Death Panel! If that's socialism - give me more!
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Don't forget you pay through the nose for this. Probably cheap with a private Bupa contract if we could only deduct it from our taxes :sigh:
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Don't forget you pay through the nose for this. Probably cheap with a private Bupa contract if we could only deduct it from our taxes :sigh:
I'm happy to pay it to provide universal care, rather than pay for some CEO's Rolls Royce!
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Don't forget you pay through the nose for this. Probably cheap with a private Bupa contract if we could only deduct it from our taxes :sigh:
By what estimation do you "pay through the nose"? I grant that the NHS is a big,unwieldy bureaucracy and probably very inefficient but is it really any more expensive than if it was run and paid for by profit-making companies (especially the insurance companies)? I grant that you pay for it, even if you don't use it but that's true of many kinds of insurance you choose (or are obliged) to pay for. Like other kinds of insurance, too, you certainly are grateful for it when you do need it. Incidentally, even when BUPA provide their own hospitals they usually employ staff trained by the NHS.
Phil
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Phil J Pearson wrote:
In England (and English) it's a phenomenon.
Phenomena is a word. It's in the dictionary. ;P ;P
Sentence construction involves more than just random assembly of words found in a dictionary. Try creating a program by random assembly of keywords, operators and variable names! ;P ;P ;P ;P
Phil
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Sentence construction involves more than just random assembly of words found in a dictionary. Try creating a program by random assembly of keywords, operators and variable names! ;P ;P ;P ;P
Phil
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Yeah. I'll be sure to get right on that. Not. ;P x infinity. I'm rubber, you're glue, what ever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. :laugh: :laugh:
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Insure and be secure. you can claim that money from your insurance agent.
Regards, Koushik. Most people never run far enough on their first wind to find out if they've got a second. Give your dreams all you've got and you'll be amazed at the energy that comes out of you.
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How much did you pay out of pocket? 75 Australian dollars or 450 dollars - just confused here with what you meant. I am lucky enough that my insurance would have covered all of this minus the nominal deductible ($25 US). I had an operation once and was in the hospital for 5.5 days and the bill was $30K U.S. but all I had to pay was a $500 deductible. I am very lucky to have good insurance. My kids use my insurance more than I do. I am glad to hear that your child will be OK. :thumbsup:
Out of pocket was $450. OUr health service picks up some, but the insurance won't cover it in the Dr./s rooms for whatever reason. If we had waited then we could have had the same thing done by the same doctor for slightly more money, in a hospital, and the health fund would have paid most of it.
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Come over to the UK - it would be free then. But seriously, it doesn't sound that bad to me. You're not paying just for stitches but also expert opinion that they'll suffice from somebody who has spent years and years and years in training. One of my friends has recently made it to consultant level, and from the start of his medical degree that has been 21 years in the making.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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IF your doctor didn't mention it, you can get a cream (ointment) of some sort that helps prevent scarring. A few years ago my Mom used it after she fell and put a tooth through her lip. If you don't know it's there you won't notice the scar.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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That, of course, is rubbish. At worst you would suffer a worrying and frustrating wait of a few hours for treatment. More likely, if a child is involved, treatment would be started within minutes of arrival at A & E.
Phil
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Things have changed since I was there, then. First they wouldn't have treated it in A&E as they would have said it wasn't an accident or an emergency -as it was, essentially, cosmetic. Second, my last wait in A&E was, as you suggest, a few hours. From memory it was about 17 or so - certainly more time than would be fun with an injured 7 year old!
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My nephew recently fell on a train and did a similar thing to his lip. The train staff took him and my sister into a quiet room and applied first aid, then called an ambulance to take him and her to the nearest casualty unit. He was seen by a doctor within ten minutes of arrival, who called in the on-call plastic surgeon. The first stitch was applied within another 10 minutes, and he was home within two hours (including journey time). He had a couple of trips to his local hospital - one checkup, and one for stitch removal, and the plastic surgeon did such a good job that there is virtually no sign of a scar. All this cost a grand total of £0, with no need of a walletectomy at the casualty unit, and no referral to the Death Panel! If that's socialism - give me more!
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Thinking about it, the wife should have called an ambulance then that would probably have happened here too - but one doesn't like to tie up the emergency services for what is patently not an emergency - your sister evidently doesn't have such qualms.
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Come over to the UK - it would be free then. But seriously, it doesn't sound that bad to me. You're not paying just for stitches but also expert opinion that they'll suffice from somebody who has spent years and years and years in training. One of my friends has recently made it to consultant level, and from the start of his medical degree that has been 21 years in the making.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
A few years ago I went to one of the medical centres in the UK to get some prescription pills, asked where I pay for them and the nurse looked thoroughly shocked when she realised I was serious.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Thinking about it, the wife should have called an ambulance then that would probably have happened here too - but one doesn't like to tie up the emergency services for what is patently not an emergency - your sister evidently doesn't have such qualms.
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She didn't call it - the station staff did, probably in the spirit of covering their own arses.
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