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  • A Abhinav S

    OriginalGriff wrote:

    Technically the use of "var" in the first example makes it an anonymous type

    Nope. It makes the varible implicity typed i.e. the variable knows nothing about what it will be until the code compiles. A var need not always be neccesarily attached with annonymous types. E.g.

    string[] words = { "apple", "strawberry", "grape", "peach", "banana" };
    var wordQuery = from word in words
    where word[0] == 'g'
    select word;

    Here we already know wordQuery is going to be of type IEnumerable and var need not be used. IEnumerable wordQuery will work just as well. 1. Apologies for posting code here but I could'nt help it. 2. Thanks for making me do some reading on this. 3. As Nish said, I see what you mean here. But I had to post this, I had to. :)

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    Nish Nishant
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    Abhinav S wrote:

    It makes the varible implicity typed i.e. the variable knows nothing about what it will be until the code exectues.

    That's not fully correct. The variable type is known at compile time. It just saves you some typing :-)

    Regards, Nish


    Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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    • A Abhinav S

      OriginalGriff wrote:

      Technically the use of "var" in the first example makes it an anonymous type

      Nope. It makes the varible implicity typed i.e. the variable knows nothing about what it will be until the code compiles. A var need not always be neccesarily attached with annonymous types. E.g.

      string[] words = { "apple", "strawberry", "grape", "peach", "banana" };
      var wordQuery = from word in words
      where word[0] == 'g'
      select word;

      Here we already know wordQuery is going to be of type IEnumerable and var need not be used. IEnumerable wordQuery will work just as well. 1. Apologies for posting code here but I could'nt help it. 2. Thanks for making me do some reading on this. 3. As Nish said, I see what you mean here. But I had to post this, I had to. :)

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      S Senthil Kumar
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      Abhinav S wrote:

      the variable knows nothing about what it will be until the code exectues.

      Well actually, the type is resolved at compile time. At runtime, there is no difference between explicit and implicit typing.

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      • A Abhinav S

        OriginalGriff wrote:

        Technically the use of "var" in the first example makes it an anonymous type

        Nope. It makes the varible implicity typed i.e. the variable knows nothing about what it will be until the code compiles. A var need not always be neccesarily attached with annonymous types. E.g.

        string[] words = { "apple", "strawberry", "grape", "peach", "banana" };
        var wordQuery = from word in words
        where word[0] == 'g'
        select word;

        Here we already know wordQuery is going to be of type IEnumerable and var need not be used. IEnumerable wordQuery will work just as well. 1. Apologies for posting code here but I could'nt help it. 2. Thanks for making me do some reading on this. 3. As Nish said, I see what you mean here. But I had to post this, I had to. :)

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Just because Griff MkI posts codes, there's no need to carry on the crime. Anyone would think this is a techn... ... oh, the shame, this is a technical site.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre

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          Just because Griff MkI posts codes, there's no need to carry on the crime. Anyone would think this is a techn... ... oh, the shame, this is a technical site.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre

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          Nish Nishant
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          ... oh, the shame, this is a technical site.

          :laugh:

          Regards, Nish


          Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          • A Abhinav S

            OriginalGriff wrote:

            Technically the use of "var" in the first example makes it an anonymous type

            Nope. It makes the varible implicity typed i.e. the variable knows nothing about what it will be until the code compiles. A var need not always be neccesarily attached with annonymous types. E.g.

            string[] words = { "apple", "strawberry", "grape", "peach", "banana" };
            var wordQuery = from word in words
            where word[0] == 'g'
            select word;

            Here we already know wordQuery is going to be of type IEnumerable and var need not be used. IEnumerable wordQuery will work just as well. 1. Apologies for posting code here but I could'nt help it. 2. Thanks for making me do some reading on this. 3. As Nish said, I see what you mean here. But I had to post this, I had to. :)

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            OriginalGriff
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            :thumbsup: 5! I'm always open to correction. Especially when its stuff I'm trying to learn. Think I'll keep looking for a rather more accurate book. :sigh:

            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Digital man: "You are, in short, an idiot with the IQ of an ant and the intellectual capacity of a hose pipe."

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Abhinav S wrote:

              It makes the varible implicity typed i.e. the variable knows nothing about what it will be until the code exectues.

              That's not fully correct. The variable type is known at compile time. It just saves you some typing :-)

              Regards, Nish


              Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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              Abhinav S
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              Fixed! :)

              The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                :thumbsup: 5! I'm always open to correction. Especially when its stuff I'm trying to learn. Think I'll keep looking for a rather more accurate book. :sigh:

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Digital man: "You are, in short, an idiot with the IQ of an ant and the intellectual capacity of a hose pipe."

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                Nish Nishant
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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                I'm always open to correction.

                Abhinav was not 100% right. Please read the corrections to his correction too :-)

                Regards, Nish


                Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  :thumbsup: 5! I'm always open to correction. Especially when its stuff I'm trying to learn. Think I'll keep looking for a rather more accurate book. :sigh:

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Digital man: "You are, in short, an idiot with the IQ of an ant and the intellectual capacity of a hose pipe."

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Well he fixed his post, so it's all good now :-)

                  Regards, Nish


                  Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  • A Abhinav S

                    Fixed! :)

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Thank you.

                    Regards, Nish


                    Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      I'm always open to correction.

                      Abhinav was not 100% right. Please read the corrections to his correction too :-)

                      Regards, Nish


                      Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                      Abhinav S
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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      Abhinav was not 100% right. Please read the corrections to his correction too

                      I need a beer... :)

                      The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick

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                      • A Abhinav S

                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        Abhinav was not 100% right. Please read the corrections to his correction too

                        I need a beer... :)

                        The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Thanks again for fixing it :-) You don't want newbies who may encounter it in future to go away with wrong info. Good work! :thumbsup:

                        Regards, Nish


                        Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          Thanks again for fixing it :-) You don't want newbies who may encounter it in future to go away with wrong info. Good work! :thumbsup:

                          Regards, Nish


                          Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          Abhinav S
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                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          You don't want newbies who may encounter it in future to go away with wrong info

                          Good point.

                          The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.

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                          • A Abhinav S

                            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                            Abhinav was not 100% right. Please read the corrections to his correction too

                            I need a beer... :)

                            The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            Abhinav S wrote:

                            I need a beer...

                            ...again. It is rude to stop at one, the others may think you don't like them.


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              I decided it was time I read up on LINQ: never really used it, time I learnt. So, I have a quick look for a book. Amazon: Sams LINQ Unleashed for C#. Lets have a quick look "Surprise me" "check out Wikipedia; Wikipedia is wicked cool at providing detailed facts" Hmmm. Wicked cool? And a code fragment to illustrate how wonderfull anonymous types are:

                                     var request = HttpWebRequest.Create(string.Format(url, stock));
                                      using (var response = request.GetResponse())
                                          {
                                          using (var reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII))
                                              {
                                              return (reader.ReadToEnd());
                                              }
                                          }
                              

                              I hate that. Why use an example where it is actually clearer if you don't use anonymous types?

                                      WebRequest request = HttpWebRequest.Create(string.Format(url, stock));
                                      using (WebResponse response = request.GetResponse())
                                          {
                                          using (StreamReader reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII))
                                              {
                                              return (reader.ReadToEnd());
                                              }
                                          }
                              

                              Don't think I'll buy that one...

                              Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Digital man: "You are, in short, an idiot with the IQ of an ant and the intellectual capacity of a hose pipe."

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                              Anthony Mushrow
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                              It's not the 'wicked cool' that throws me in that statement it the 'detailed facts' Wikipedia is convenient, but not to be relied upon too heavily.

                              My current favourite phrase: I've seen better!

                              -SK Genius

                              Source Indexing and Symbol Servers[^]

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                Abhinav S wrote:

                                I need a beer...

                                ...again. It is rude to stop at one, the others may think you don't like them.


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre

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                                Abhinav S
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                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

                                :-D

                                The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  I decided it was time I read up on LINQ: never really used it, time I learnt. So, I have a quick look for a book. Amazon: Sams LINQ Unleashed for C#. Lets have a quick look "Surprise me" "check out Wikipedia; Wikipedia is wicked cool at providing detailed facts" Hmmm. Wicked cool? And a code fragment to illustrate how wonderfull anonymous types are:

                                         var request = HttpWebRequest.Create(string.Format(url, stock));
                                          using (var response = request.GetResponse())
                                              {
                                              using (var reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII))
                                                  {
                                                  return (reader.ReadToEnd());
                                                  }
                                              }
                                  

                                  I hate that. Why use an example where it is actually clearer if you don't use anonymous types?

                                          WebRequest request = HttpWebRequest.Create(string.Format(url, stock));
                                          using (WebResponse response = request.GetResponse())
                                              {
                                              using (StreamReader reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII))
                                                  {
                                                  return (reader.ReadToEnd());
                                                  }
                                              }
                                  

                                  Don't think I'll buy that one...

                                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Digital man: "You are, in short, an idiot with the IQ of an ant and the intellectual capacity of a hose pipe."

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  sorry, but type inference makes code clearer, I like the first version better. Why should I have to redeclare the variable's type when newing it? It's easily inferred from the right-side.

                                  var reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII)

                                  is better than

                                  StreamReader reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII)

                                  "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                                    sorry, but type inference makes code clearer, I like the first version better. Why should I have to redeclare the variable's type when newing it? It's easily inferred from the right-side.

                                    var reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII)

                                    is better than

                                    StreamReader reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII)

                                    "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                                    mr_lasseter
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                                    I agree with you, but it's like arguing about how your favorite color is better than someone else's.

                                    Mike Lasseter

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                                    • N Nish Nishant

                                      Abhinav S wrote:

                                      It makes the varible implicity typed i.e. the variable knows nothing about what it will be until the code exectues.

                                      That's not fully correct. The variable type is known at compile time. It just saves you some typing :-)

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      That's not fully correct. The variable type is known at compile time.

                                      Real men don't compile code; they just put it straight into production.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        I decided it was time I read up on LINQ: never really used it, time I learnt. So, I have a quick look for a book. Amazon: Sams LINQ Unleashed for C#. Lets have a quick look "Surprise me" "check out Wikipedia; Wikipedia is wicked cool at providing detailed facts" Hmmm. Wicked cool? And a code fragment to illustrate how wonderfull anonymous types are:

                                               var request = HttpWebRequest.Create(string.Format(url, stock));
                                                using (var response = request.GetResponse())
                                                    {
                                                    using (var reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII))
                                                        {
                                                        return (reader.ReadToEnd());
                                                        }
                                                    }
                                        

                                        I hate that. Why use an example where it is actually clearer if you don't use anonymous types?

                                                WebRequest request = HttpWebRequest.Create(string.Format(url, stock));
                                                using (WebResponse response = request.GetResponse())
                                                    {
                                                    using (StreamReader reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII))
                                                        {
                                                        return (reader.ReadToEnd());
                                                        }
                                                    }
                                        

                                        Don't think I'll buy that one...

                                        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Digital man: "You are, in short, an idiot with the IQ of an ant and the intellectual capacity of a hose pipe."

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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        Sams LINQ Unleashed for C#.

                                        Three out of five words are bad for your personal hygiene and will give you brain rot: Sams LINQ Unleashed X| And some studies indicate a forth word, "C#", will lead to early onset of Alzheimer's. Marc

                                        My Blog

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          I decided it was time I read up on LINQ: never really used it, time I learnt. So, I have a quick look for a book. Amazon: Sams LINQ Unleashed for C#. Lets have a quick look "Surprise me" "check out Wikipedia; Wikipedia is wicked cool at providing detailed facts" Hmmm. Wicked cool? And a code fragment to illustrate how wonderfull anonymous types are:

                                                 var request = HttpWebRequest.Create(string.Format(url, stock));
                                                  using (var response = request.GetResponse())
                                                      {
                                                      using (var reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII))
                                                          {
                                                          return (reader.ReadToEnd());
                                                          }
                                                      }
                                          

                                          I hate that. Why use an example where it is actually clearer if you don't use anonymous types?

                                                  WebRequest request = HttpWebRequest.Create(string.Format(url, stock));
                                                  using (WebResponse response = request.GetResponse())
                                                      {
                                                      using (StreamReader reader = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.ASCII))
                                                          {
                                                          return (reader.ReadToEnd());
                                                          }
                                                      }
                                          

                                          Don't think I'll buy that one...

                                          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Digital man: "You are, in short, an idiot with the IQ of an ant and the intellectual capacity of a hose pipe."

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                                          Mike Hankey
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                                          Try this one [^] I've tried a couple and this one is the best.

                                          Even a blind squirrel gets a nut occasionally. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] [My Site]

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