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  • C Chris Austin

    Found this on interesting. While Amnesty International is a bit pissed of the Gov. using their work for propiganda, the article dosen't seem to dispute the information listed in the dossier. Am I the only one to see that or did I mis-read it? Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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    Tim Smith
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    AI is a VERY liberal organization. Well, at least 15 years ago it was. I wouldn't put it beyond them to place politics above human rights. As far as the British coloring the report to help their case... LIKE DUH!!!! :rolleyes: Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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    • C Chris Austin

      Found this on interesting. While Amnesty International is a bit pissed of the Gov. using their work for propiganda, the article dosen't seem to dispute the information listed in the dossier. Am I the only one to see that or did I mis-read it? Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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      Chris Austin wrote: Am I the only one to see that or did I mis-read it? I noticed that too. They never said the report was exaggerated or incorrect, just that it was being used to get backing for the war. As far as I'm concerned, I don't care why they put out the info. If it's accurate, then, politics aside, quickt screwing around with weapon checks and assassinate the man. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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      • J Jason Henderson

        Tester wrote: This is just terrible, it's almost like in the United States. Who does Saddam thinks he is, George W. Bush? Huh? I don't know about all Americans, but I'm not in constant fear of Dubya.

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        Jason Henderson wrote: but I'm not in constant fear of Dubya I'm in fear that he might not get reelected. :wtf: (not really, I'm prety certain he'll pull it off) BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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          Jason Henderson wrote: but I'm not in constant fear of Dubya I'm in fear that he might not get reelected. :wtf: (not really, I'm prety certain he'll pull it off) BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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          Jason Henderson
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          Unless the economy is falls into a 2 year slump, he'll still be there.

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            Jason Henderson wrote: but I'm not in constant fear of Dubya. Maybe you are a member of republican guard, oops, I mean republican. ;P

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            Jason Henderson
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            I'd be more afraid of the Chinese secret police if I were you. Last time I checked, the U.S. didn't cart anyone off to jail for searching Google.com.

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            • B brianwelsch

              British Report: Saddam Hussein: Crimes and Human Rights Abuses[^] If this has mentioned already, sorry. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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              Jason Henderson
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              I think its time we get this issue out of committee and just take care of him ourselves.

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              • J Jason Henderson

                Unless the economy is falls into a 2 year slump, he'll still be there.

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                Chris Losinger
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                you mean it's not already in a 2 year slump? huh. -c


                There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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                  British Report: Saddam Hussein: Crimes and Human Rights Abuses[^] If this has mentioned already, sorry. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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                  Christian Graus
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                  The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                    you mean it's not already in a 2 year slump? huh. -c


                    There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

                    Smaller Animals Software

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                    Jason Henderson
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                    I meant for the next 2 years. Its unlikely that it will be in a slump that long since most recessions last only 3-6 months.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                      Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I think you are right on and it is a scary proposition. Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying it's not at least partially true This scares me even more. If this stuff is true I think the entire worl community needs to take a look at itself and figure out why these things are allowed to go on for so long. (My first guess would be to avoid war) Chris Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                        It's not exactly hidden, Christian. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                          Konstantin Vasserman
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                          Well, that's what "leaders" have done to their people for centuries, so we should not be very surprised. I just wish they would at least try to be a little more creative in their propaganda: having "War on Iraq" all over the cable news channels all the time for the past several month is getting a bit boring...

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic
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                            Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? Bah! In good old times people didn't need such bulshit to go to war. It was enough to say: "Let's go to war, kill some men, rape some women, and burn some cities.", and people would go to war. Now they need all kind of silly excuses like human rights. :zzz: :beer:

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                              Jason Henderson
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                              Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Since you put it that way... yes I noticed. What do you think of this[^]?

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                                Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? Bah! In good old times people didn't need such bulshit to go to war. It was enough to say: "Let's go to war, kill some men, rape some women, and burn some cities.", and people would go to war. Now they need all kind of silly excuses like human rights. :zzz: :beer:

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                                I'm glad your on our side Nemanja... I think. :~

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                                • C Chris Austin

                                  Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I think you are right on and it is a scary proposition. Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying it's not at least partially true This scares me even more. If this stuff is true I think the entire worl community needs to take a look at itself and figure out why these things are allowed to go on for so long. (My first guess would be to avoid war) Chris Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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                                  Chris Austin wrote: If this stuff is true I think the entire worl community needs to take a look at itself and figure out why these things are allowed to go on for so long We can't. A group of people can't be generous, thoughtful, trusting, effective, and selfless for long enough at the same time to come up with usable solutions to human nature. Just think of meetings where 2-3 people can barely agree on some stupid feature to add to a piece of software, let alone attacking the natural order of human interaction. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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                                  • C Chris Austin

                                    Found this on interesting. While Amnesty International is a bit pissed of the Gov. using their work for propiganda, the article dosen't seem to dispute the information listed in the dossier. Am I the only one to see that or did I mis-read it? Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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                                    Brit
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                                    Yes, I noticed the same thing. The timing of the release and the concern with which the governments give to the report are evidence that it is political. At the same time, Amnesty international is playing politics by criticizing the report. Because they are opposed to war, they are speaking up. If they weren't opposed to war, they wouldn't speak up. The argument that they are merely "pointing out the truth of the matter, rather than playing politics", is remarkably similar to an argument the government might use for releasing the information. Hmmmmm. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                                    • J Jason Henderson

                                      I meant for the next 2 years. Its unlikely that it will be in a slump that long since most recessions last only 3-6 months.

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                                      Jason Henderson wrote: Its unlikely that it will be in a slump that long since most recessions last only 3-6 months. They also said the "high-tech" economic boom would last forever. ;)

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                                        I meant for the next 2 years. Its unlikely that it will be in a slump that long since most recessions last only 3-6 months.

                                        Jason Henderson
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                                        brianwelsch
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                                        Jason Henderson wrote: Its unlikely that it will be in a slump that long It's already turning up. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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                                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                          Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? Bah! In good old times people didn't need such bulshit to go to war. It was enough to say: "Let's go to war, kill some men, rape some women, and burn some cities.", and people would go to war. Now they need all kind of silly excuses like human rights. :zzz: :beer:

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                                          :)Thanks for the good laugh...now I need to clean the afternoon latte off my firggin keyboard and monitor. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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