Saddam's a bad, bad man
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The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
It's not exactly hidden, Christian. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Well, that's what "leaders" have done to their people for centuries, so we should not be very surprised. I just wish they would at least try to be a little more creative in their propaganda: having "War on Iraq" all over the cable news channels all the time for the past several month is getting a bit boring...
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The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? Bah! In good old times people didn't need such bulshit to go to war. It was enough to say: "Let's go to war, kill some men, rape some women, and burn some cities.", and people would go to war. Now they need all kind of silly excuses like human rights. :zzz: :beer:
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The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Since you put it that way... yes I noticed. What do you think of this[^]?
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Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? Bah! In good old times people didn't need such bulshit to go to war. It was enough to say: "Let's go to war, kill some men, rape some women, and burn some cities.", and people would go to war. Now they need all kind of silly excuses like human rights. :zzz: :beer:
I'm glad your on our side Nemanja... I think. :~
Jason Henderson
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Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I think you are right on and it is a scary proposition. Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying it's not at least partially true This scares me even more. If this stuff is true I think the entire worl community needs to take a look at itself and figure out why these things are allowed to go on for so long. (My first guess would be to avoid war) Chris Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
Chris Austin wrote: If this stuff is true I think the entire worl community needs to take a look at itself and figure out why these things are allowed to go on for so long We can't. A group of people can't be generous, thoughtful, trusting, effective, and selfless for long enough at the same time to come up with usable solutions to human nature. Just think of meetings where 2-3 people can barely agree on some stupid feature to add to a piece of software, let alone attacking the natural order of human interaction. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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Found this on interesting. While Amnesty International is a bit pissed of the Gov. using their work for propiganda, the article dosen't seem to dispute the information listed in the dossier. Am I the only one to see that or did I mis-read it? Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
Yes, I noticed the same thing. The timing of the release and the concern with which the governments give to the report are evidence that it is political. At the same time, Amnesty international is playing politics by criticizing the report. Because they are opposed to war, they are speaking up. If they weren't opposed to war, they wouldn't speak up. The argument that they are merely "pointing out the truth of the matter, rather than playing politics", is remarkably similar to an argument the government might use for releasing the information. Hmmmmm. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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I meant for the next 2 years. Its unlikely that it will be in a slump that long since most recessions last only 3-6 months.
Jason Henderson
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I meant for the next 2 years. Its unlikely that it will be in a slump that long since most recessions last only 3-6 months.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *Jason Henderson wrote: Its unlikely that it will be in a slump that long It's already turning up. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? Bah! In good old times people didn't need such bulshit to go to war. It was enough to say: "Let's go to war, kill some men, rape some women, and burn some cities.", and people would go to war. Now they need all kind of silly excuses like human rights. :zzz: :beer:
:)Thanks for the good laugh...now I need to clean the afternoon latte off my firggin keyboard and monitor. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
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I am vocally anti-Bush at times and don’t fear anything. You are an ignorant fool or a 10 year old kid trolling.Go back to Slashdot. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
That's interesting, even in my depressive state today I was able to pick up on the humour in what he was saying. Don't get so flipping defensive all the time, it doesn't help your karma. :~
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David Wulff Born and Bred.
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AI is a VERY liberal organization. Well, at least 15 years ago it was. I wouldn't put it beyond them to place politics above human rights. As far as the British coloring the report to help their case... LIKE DUH!!!! :rolleyes: Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Tim Smith wrote: LIKE DUH!!!! BYA. Get it? Okay okay, I admit I really need to out more work into my jokes... :rolleyes:
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That's interesting, even in my depressive state today I was able to pick up on the humour in what he was saying. Don't get so flipping defensive all the time, it doesn't help your karma. :~
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
David Wulff Born and Bred.
David Wulff wrote: That's interesting, even in my depressive state today Sorry if I disturbed your melancholy:). Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
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Tim Smith wrote: LIKE DUH!!!! BYA. Get it? Okay okay, I admit I really need to out more work into my jokes... :rolleyes:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
David Wulff Born and Bred.
BYA - Bet Your AssArse Mike Mullikin :beer:
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
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BYA - Bet Your AssArse Mike Mullikin :beer:
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
It's getting late in the day, and I'm not sure if you were offering a translation or returning the joke or what, but for the record I was making DUHBYA as in "like dubya". :~
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
David Wulff Born and Bred.
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It's getting late in the day, and I'm not sure if you were offering a translation or returning the joke or what, but for the record I was making DUHBYA as in "like dubya". :~
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
David Wulff Born and Bred.
David Wulff wrote: I was making DUHBYA as in "like dubya". Yeah, I understood. I was returning the joke. ;P Mike Mullikin :beer:
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
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The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
we have always been at war with eurasia
There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic
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Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying it's not at least partially true, I am just saying our leaders are manipulating us in preperation for giving us a pop gun and putting us on the front line to die. Since you put it that way... yes I noticed. What do you think of this[^]?
Jason Henderson
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There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic
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Christian Graus wrote: The propoganda we are being fed to prepare us for war ? I think you are right on and it is a scary proposition. Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying it's not at least partially true This scares me even more. If this stuff is true I think the entire worl community needs to take a look at itself and figure out why these things are allowed to go on for so long. (My first guess would be to avoid war) Chris Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
This scares me even more. If this stuff is true I think the entire worl community needs to take a look at itself and figure out why these things are allowed to go on for so long. (My first guess would be to avoid war) It raises questions like "how involved should we get in other people's governments"? Of course, a number of countries play the "Each country has its own sovereignty, that must be protected" card. While this is a decent idea, commiting to it entirely is a recipe for huge problems. Even worse, some people actually believe it, and when someone (like the US) intervenes somewhere is it "guilty" of violating the sovereignty of another nation (which really isn't nearly as good of a rule as people think it is). Then introduce all the other ways of viewing the world. For example, it often seems that Muslim vs Non-Muslim sometimes becomes the overriding factor in choosing sides for people in the Middle East. There is simply no doubt that the Middle East would be much more divided about the US and Iraq if the US was a predominantly Muslim nation. And, ultimately, you can't force any nation/regime to change if it isn't willing. The world community might use economic sanctions, but that won't always get you anywhere (e.g. Iraq). Saddam has really pushed things as far as he possibly can. So, what's the alternative? He's hiding behind 300,000 soldiers and civilians. Is it worth a war and the civilian casualties to stop him? How bad does a leader really have to be in order to justify a war? In general, the historical response is: a leader can be as bad as he wants as long as he crosses no international boundaries. (Which is pretty much what the rule "respect each nation's sovereignty" advocates.) I suppose it would all be so much easier if leaders did what the international community wanted or war didn't actually kill anyone. Policing the world is a bit like being a voluntary police officer in a neighborhood where all the criminals have automatic weapons, and they won't let you arrest them. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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Found this on interesting. While Amnesty International is a bit pissed of the Gov. using their work for propiganda, the article dosen't seem to dispute the information listed in the dossier. Am I the only one to see that or did I mis-read it? Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
Yeah, it's rather annoying that no-one cared about people's hands being burned away by acid until it suited war propoganda. Don't misunderstand me, it's disgusting and should be stopped, but shouldn't it have been stopped ages ago? :suss:
I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'..... - Christian Graus on Code Project outages A moment of silence please. A programmer's best friend has passed beyond that great exception in the sky.... - Mark Conger on "The coffee machine has died"