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  • M Mycroft Holmes

    We had a requirement that needed someone to write some VBA macros in Excel (2003) yesterday, both devs on the team denied any knowledge of VB/VBA/VB.Net I gave them a choice of doing the job in VBA or documentation, we should have some great manuals for this project. I was astonished that a person who calls himself a developer has no knowledge of office or macro programming, I thought we all got dipped in that stuff at some time.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    Christian Graus
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    I've done some VB.NET and a smattering of VB6. I've never, ever, done VBA.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      I've done some VB.NET and a smattering of VB6. I've never, ever, done VBA.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      Lost User
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      The last BASIC I did was on a Commodore 64.

      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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      • C Christian Graus

        I've done some VB.NET and a smattering of VB6. I've never, ever, done VBA.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        As an accountant, XL is the base level, so therefore I need people who know it. I am an XL guru, not just macros, but vba too. I only employ people who are at least macro level.

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          As an accountant, XL is the base level, so therefore I need people who know it. I am an XL guru, not just macros, but vba too. I only employ people who are at least macro level.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          XL

          Is that an OBNXS way of spelling Excel?

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          • M Mycroft Holmes

            We had a requirement that needed someone to write some VBA macros in Excel (2003) yesterday, both devs on the team denied any knowledge of VB/VBA/VB.Net I gave them a choice of doing the job in VBA or documentation, we should have some great manuals for this project. I was astonished that a person who calls himself a developer has no knowledge of office or macro programming, I thought we all got dipped in that stuff at some time.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            I've never programmed VBA, though I do quite a bit of VB.Net development now and I (unfortunately) used to do some VB6.

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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              XL

              Is that an OBNXS way of spelling Excel?

              [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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              Dalek Dave
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              Accountancy shorthand.

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                Accountancy shorthand.

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                OIC. :rolleyes:

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                • C Christian Graus

                  I've done some VB.NET and a smattering of VB6. I've never, ever, done VBA.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Gary R Wheeler
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                  Bah. I once wrote an application for Lotus Symphony[^] entirely in macros. The thing even included an overlay manager, since the entire spreadsheet was waaaaay bigger than you could fit in 300K, which was what you had left after Symphony itself loaded.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                    The last BASIC I did was on a Commodore 64.

                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                    Ah yes a C64, a machine that was almost as good as a ZX Spectrum, and yet 5 times the size.

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                      The last BASIC I did was on a Commodore 64.

                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      *grin* I did that, too, but I preferred Applesoft BASIC. Either way, my point was not that BASIC or VBA is useless, only that it's wrong to assume that b/c you use something a lot, every developer has used it.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        I've never programmed VBA, though I do quite a bit of VB.Net development now and I (unfortunately) used to do some VB6.

                        [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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                        AspDotNetDev wrote:

                        I (unfortunately) used to do some VB6.

                        You have our condolences

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          AspDotNetDev wrote:

                          I (unfortunately) used to do some VB6.

                          You have our condolences

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                          Please don't, it's just easier *eyes begin to water and voice cracks*... it's just easier not to talk about it. *runs off sobbing*

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                            I would not hire anybody who denied VBA!

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                            While it is part of your job description (accountant/finance) these guys are corporate developers in a finance department, excel spit is one of our main data sources X|

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              *grin* I did that, too, but I preferred Applesoft BASIC. Either way, my point was not that BASIC or VBA is useless, only that it's wrong to assume that b/c you use something a lot, every developer has used it.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Mycroft Holmes
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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              it's wrong to assume that b/c you use something a lot, every developer has used it.

                              Now that is true, however I do note that most have been exposed to some flavour of VB.

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                it's wrong to assume that b/c you use something a lot, every developer has used it.

                                Now that is true, however I do note that most have been exposed to some flavour of VB.

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                VB -- the cold virus of developer skills.

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                                  VB -- the cold virus of developer skills.

                                  [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  the cold virus

                                  Precisely, everybody gets exposed at some time!

                                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    it's wrong to assume that b/c you use something a lot, every developer has used it.

                                    Now that is true, however I do note that most have been exposed to some flavour of VB.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    True, in my case it was a single incident in 10 years tho.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                                      We had a requirement that needed someone to write some VBA macros in Excel (2003) yesterday, both devs on the team denied any knowledge of VB/VBA/VB.Net I gave them a choice of doing the job in VBA or documentation, we should have some great manuals for this project. I was astonished that a person who calls himself a developer has no knowledge of office or macro programming, I thought we all got dipped in that stuff at some time.

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      The folks in my group would have jumped on the VBA project. The sissies hate writing and generally refuse to do it. I write practically all of the documentation for the group.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      • M Mycroft Holmes

                                        We had a requirement that needed someone to write some VBA macros in Excel (2003) yesterday, both devs on the team denied any knowledge of VB/VBA/VB.Net I gave them a choice of doing the job in VBA or documentation, we should have some great manuals for this project. I was astonished that a person who calls himself a developer has no knowledge of office or macro programming, I thought we all got dipped in that stuff at some time.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Major disconnect. Would you ask your proctologist to clean your teeth? They're probably both looking at job sites as I write this ...

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                                          Major disconnect. Would you ask your proctologist to clean your teeth? They're probably both looking at job sites as I write this ...

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                                          Mycroft Holmes
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                                          Rene Pilon wrote:

                                          They're probably both looking at job sites as I write this ...

                                          Hmmm one of them is not in this morning - suspicious... If you think as a developer you will not be required to write doco then you will be sadly disappointed. In most (all) corporate shops there is no such thing as a technical writer, the closest I have seen is where we have hired an agency to to this.

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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