Anothe way to make fuel, not algae based
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110228/ap_on_re_us/us_growing_fuel[^] They're using bacteria instead of squishing algae. The real test will be the demonstration facility they're going to build according to the article. It sounds like it would be emissions neutral since facilities would be capturing the carbon you'd be releasing from fuel made by these plants. We shall see though.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
The scale doesn't sound too optimistic. At 15000 Gal/Acre/yr it will take more than 3 million acres (4700 Sq. Miles) to satisfy current US annual demand for diesel fuel (diesel only, no gasoline or jet fuel included). NIMBY and capital costs will kill this because of the land/surface requirements.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi
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The scale doesn't sound too optimistic. At 15000 Gal/Acre/yr it will take more than 3 million acres (4700 Sq. Miles) to satisfy current US annual demand for diesel fuel (diesel only, no gasoline or jet fuel included). NIMBY and capital costs will kill this because of the land/surface requirements.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi
3 million Acres need not be on a plain surface, this is bacteria, they can grow anywhere. Some form of alveoli like structures could put the required acreage into one large factory.
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3 million Acres need not be on a plain surface, this is bacteria, they can grow anywhere. Some form of alveoli like structures could put the required acreage into one large factory.
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It's a cyanobacterium which depends on photosynthesis to make the fuel, so it at least must have sunlight exposure. It won't work very well inside a factory, or in an aveoli like structure where most of the surface is not exposed to the outside (and hence sunlight).
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi
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you can also make ethanol by giving sugar to yeast. and it's delicious.
Best with some hop extract, and barley. :beer:
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The scale doesn't sound too optimistic. At 15000 Gal/Acre/yr it will take more than 3 million acres (4700 Sq. Miles) to satisfy current US annual demand for diesel fuel (diesel only, no gasoline or jet fuel included). NIMBY and capital costs will kill this because of the land/surface requirements.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi
No problem - they can have Texas. That's only a city lot there...
Will Rogers never met me.
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It's a cyanobacterium which depends on photosynthesis to make the fuel, so it at least must have sunlight exposure. It won't work very well inside a factory, or in an aveoli like structure where most of the surface is not exposed to the outside (and hence sunlight).
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi
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You're welcome to invest in it. I'll take a pass, thanks. :-D
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi
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The scale doesn't sound too optimistic. At 15000 Gal/Acre/yr it will take more than 3 million acres (4700 Sq. Miles) to satisfy current US annual demand for diesel fuel (diesel only, no gasoline or jet fuel included). NIMBY and capital costs will kill this because of the land/surface requirements.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi
4700 square miles is just 5% of the State of Arizona. Plenty of sunshine, plenty of desert with no vegetation / animal life.
"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"
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It's a cyanobacterium which depends on photosynthesis to make the fuel, so it at least must have sunlight exposure. It won't work very well inside a factory, or in an aveoli like structure where most of the surface is not exposed to the outside (and hence sunlight).
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi
If you can start incorporating it into something like this, you might have something. sky farming[^].
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
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4700 square miles is just 5% of the State of Arizona. Plenty of sunshine, plenty of desert with no vegetation / animal life.
"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"
ahmed zahmed wrote:
plenty of desert with no vegetation / animal life.
Well that's untrue, but it would raise the intelligence level there... I mean ummm... here. :~
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
plenty of desert with no vegetation / animal life.
Well that's untrue, but it would raise the intelligence level there... I mean ummm... here. :~
I didn't mean ALL of AZ was a lifeless desert.
"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"
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I didn't mean ALL of AZ was a lifeless desert.
"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"
Still, less than 5%.
