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  • T twohowlingdogs

    So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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    Tomz_KV
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    The Microsoft product is a SQL Server and may be pronounced as Sequal server or S Q L server. Here is a discussion: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3594718/how-do-you-pronounce-microsoft-sql-server[^]

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    • T twohowlingdogs

      So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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      codingjam
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      I've always considered "Sequal" the pronunciation of IBM's SEQUEL (Structured English Query Language) product and "es queue el" the correct pronunciation for the ANSI standard specification for SQL. Hence, I almost always say "es queue el" or "es queue el Server" or "My es queue el". I know I am in the minority with this, I'm sure when IBM changed their product name from SEQUEL to SQL the pronunciation stuck amongst IBMers. I don't have a ref handy, but I do remember that in their original SQL standard, ANSI declared that the official pronunciation is "es queue el" and referred to "sequel" as slang. The closest ref I have is this article which remembers the same. http://databases.about.com/od/sql/a/sqlfundamentals.htm have a good one.

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      • T twohowlingdogs

        So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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        Dave Buhl
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        Depends on what camp you are in. If you are working with Microsoft tech, their documentation actually identifies the pronounciation as Sequal. If you are working in Oracle/MySQL they specify in their documentation that you pronounce each letter as S Q L. In the big picture, as long as Select * from table works.......

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        • T twohowlingdogs

          So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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          Danny Mullen
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          Save oxygen, say sequel!

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          • T twohowlingdogs

            So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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            BC3Tech
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            sequel here... and nothing bothers me more than when somebody refers to TCL as "tickle" :omg:

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            • B BillW33

              Everyone around here says Sequal.

              Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

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              steve_wong
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              SQL i think it's kind of wierd to say sequal. but some professor in my college say sequal :|

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              • T twohowlingdogs

                So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                Alexander DiMauro
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                What I was told is that it was originally 'Sequel', for 'Structured English Query Language'. Then they dropped the 'English' part, and it became S-Q-L. Another (unconfirmed by me...anyone?) reason for the change was that I heard that the 'Sequel' infringed on a trademarked name somewhere in Europe (UK, I think?), and so they originally changed it to S-Q-L in Europe, which then spread to prominent use. The first part I am pretty sure is true. The second part, as I said, I have not personally confirmed that info, it's what I heard.

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                • B BC3Tech

                  sequel here... and nothing bothers me more than when somebody refers to TCL as "tickle" :omg:

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                  twohowlingdogs
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                  Funny you should bring TCL up. My first job out of college was converting Perl, K-shell and C-shell scripts to TCL/TK. My boss called it "Tickle/TK". :~ I called it that too since it was the first time I'd ever heard of it! :~ I didn't think others would understand so I reverted to calling it TCL/TK.

                  I have nothing more to say.

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                  • B BC3Tech

                    sequel here... and nothing bothers me more than when somebody refers to TCL as "tickle" :omg:

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                    Pete Schultz
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                    That really bothers me even in print. :shudder:

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                    • T twohowlingdogs

                      So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                      BobRoeder
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                      I use S-Q-L since Sequal is an personal ambulatory oxygen system. Maybe if they get oxygen then they couls say it right. RC Roeder (had not had enough coffee yet, still cranky)

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                      • T twohowlingdogs

                        So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                        MatrixDud
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                        I've heard both quite a bit but sequel predominates. Even in bastardizations of SQL like SOQL they themselves (Salesforce) pronounce it like SO-QUELL. I vote for sea-quell. What gets me though is this guy at work who insists on pronouncing VARCHAR like VAR-KAR and is bugged if others don't pronounce it his way. Everyone else I know calls it VAR-CHAR as in charbroiled. He looses my respect on a daily basis.

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                        • S Soulus83

                          Sequel... what? how do you call C#? "Ci-pound??" ...runs behind the chair and cover his ears, after knowing that he has just started a new flame war....

                          "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--either way, you are right." — Henry Ford

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                          Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                          C#: I call it Java redux.

                          Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                          • U urbane tiger

                            Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

                            Ok, S minus Q minus L, I still don't know the answer! :)

                            maybe J- or -J :^)

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                            Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                            Which is, oddly, better than J++

                            Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                            • B BillW33

                              Everyone around here says Sequal.

                              Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

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                              Branco Medeiros
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                              In the original paper that introduced the language, it was explicitly called [SEQUEL]. But then it was Structured ENGLISH Query Language... :)

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                              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                I see quail.

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                                dbraseth
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                                seek well?

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                                • T twohowlingdogs

                                  So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                                  User 3589018
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                                  In wikipedia[^] it says, "The acronym SEQUEL was later changed to SQL because "SEQUEL" was a trademark of the UK-based Hawker Siddeley aircraft company" So, obviously it was intended to be called Sequel - the acronym had to be shortened - the pronunciation stayed the same.

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                                  • T twohowlingdogs

                                    So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                                    KP Lee
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                                    Microsoft says "an SQL" which doesn't make any sense until I heard the explanation that SQL SOUNDS like Ees Queue El. I'll take it any way you want to say it. I generally say sea quill.

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                                    • M MatrixDud

                                      I've heard both quite a bit but sequel predominates. Even in bastardizations of SQL like SOQL they themselves (Salesforce) pronounce it like SO-QUELL. I vote for sea-quell. What gets me though is this guy at work who insists on pronouncing VARCHAR like VAR-KAR and is bugged if others don't pronounce it his way. Everyone else I know calls it VAR-CHAR as in charbroiled. He looses my respect on a daily basis.

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                                      KP Lee
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                                      MatrixDud wrote:

                                      pronouncing VARCHAR like VAR-KAR and is bugged if others don't pronounce it his way

                                      To each his own. I say vair-care, vair like in VARiable, care like in CHARacter. I bet you say var like in varnish. A lot of people say it that way. It is a little incomprehensible to my why one would slaughter the sound by taking the characters out of the context from where they come from and use them like they would be pronounced without any context. Wait, that sounds like I am taking the "guy who bugs you"'s side. Well, I am, but also: To each his own. (Just because he's right and you're wrong is no reason to not get along.)

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                                      • T twohowlingdogs

                                        So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                                        Gary Huck
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                                        Sequel

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                                        • T twohowlingdogs

                                          So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                                          James Lonero
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                                          In my junior college SQL class, the professor said that it is pronounced "sequal". But, the prof was from the industry.

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