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  • B BillW33

    Everyone around here says Sequal.

    Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

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    steve_wong
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    SQL i think it's kind of wierd to say sequal. but some professor in my college say sequal :|

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    • T twohowlingdogs

      So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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      Alexander DiMauro
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      What I was told is that it was originally 'Sequel', for 'Structured English Query Language'. Then they dropped the 'English' part, and it became S-Q-L. Another (unconfirmed by me...anyone?) reason for the change was that I heard that the 'Sequel' infringed on a trademarked name somewhere in Europe (UK, I think?), and so they originally changed it to S-Q-L in Europe, which then spread to prominent use. The first part I am pretty sure is true. The second part, as I said, I have not personally confirmed that info, it's what I heard.

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      • B BC3Tech

        sequel here... and nothing bothers me more than when somebody refers to TCL as "tickle" :omg:

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        twohowlingdogs
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        Funny you should bring TCL up. My first job out of college was converting Perl, K-shell and C-shell scripts to TCL/TK. My boss called it "Tickle/TK". :~ I called it that too since it was the first time I'd ever heard of it! :~ I didn't think others would understand so I reverted to calling it TCL/TK.

        I have nothing more to say.

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        • B BC3Tech

          sequel here... and nothing bothers me more than when somebody refers to TCL as "tickle" :omg:

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          Pete Schultz
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          That really bothers me even in print. :shudder:

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          • T twohowlingdogs

            So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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            BobRoeder
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            I use S-Q-L since Sequal is an personal ambulatory oxygen system. Maybe if they get oxygen then they couls say it right. RC Roeder (had not had enough coffee yet, still cranky)

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            • T twohowlingdogs

              So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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              MatrixDud
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              I've heard both quite a bit but sequel predominates. Even in bastardizations of SQL like SOQL they themselves (Salesforce) pronounce it like SO-QUELL. I vote for sea-quell. What gets me though is this guy at work who insists on pronouncing VARCHAR like VAR-KAR and is bugged if others don't pronounce it his way. Everyone else I know calls it VAR-CHAR as in charbroiled. He looses my respect on a daily basis.

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              • S Soulus83

                Sequel... what? how do you call C#? "Ci-pound??" ...runs behind the chair and cover his ears, after knowing that he has just started a new flame war....

                "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--either way, you are right." — Henry Ford

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                Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                C#: I call it Java redux.

                Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                • U urbane tiger

                  Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

                  Ok, S minus Q minus L, I still don't know the answer! :)

                  maybe J- or -J :^)

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                  Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                  Which is, oddly, better than J++

                  Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                  • B BillW33

                    Everyone around here says Sequal.

                    Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

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                    Branco Medeiros
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                    In the original paper that introduced the language, it was explicitly called [SEQUEL]. But then it was Structured ENGLISH Query Language... :)

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      I see quail.

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                      dbraseth
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                      seek well?

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                      • T twohowlingdogs

                        So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                        User 3589018
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                        In wikipedia[^] it says, "The acronym SEQUEL was later changed to SQL because "SEQUEL" was a trademark of the UK-based Hawker Siddeley aircraft company" So, obviously it was intended to be called Sequel - the acronym had to be shortened - the pronunciation stayed the same.

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                        • T twohowlingdogs

                          So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                          KP Lee
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                          Microsoft says "an SQL" which doesn't make any sense until I heard the explanation that SQL SOUNDS like Ees Queue El. I'll take it any way you want to say it. I generally say sea quill.

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                          • M MatrixDud

                            I've heard both quite a bit but sequel predominates. Even in bastardizations of SQL like SOQL they themselves (Salesforce) pronounce it like SO-QUELL. I vote for sea-quell. What gets me though is this guy at work who insists on pronouncing VARCHAR like VAR-KAR and is bugged if others don't pronounce it his way. Everyone else I know calls it VAR-CHAR as in charbroiled. He looses my respect on a daily basis.

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                            KP Lee
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                            MatrixDud wrote:

                            pronouncing VARCHAR like VAR-KAR and is bugged if others don't pronounce it his way

                            To each his own. I say vair-care, vair like in VARiable, care like in CHARacter. I bet you say var like in varnish. A lot of people say it that way. It is a little incomprehensible to my why one would slaughter the sound by taking the characters out of the context from where they come from and use them like they would be pronounced without any context. Wait, that sounds like I am taking the "guy who bugs you"'s side. Well, I am, but also: To each his own. (Just because he's right and you're wrong is no reason to not get along.)

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                            • T twohowlingdogs

                              So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                              Gary Huck
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                              Sequel

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                              • T twohowlingdogs

                                So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                                James Lonero
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                                In my junior college SQL class, the professor said that it is pronounced "sequal". But, the prof was from the industry.

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                                • T twohowlingdogs

                                  So I post this question to you all since I grew up being told it is S-Q-L Server and the professors getting upset at hearing Sequal Server or just plain Sequal. Then I get this job here and the younger web developer says it is Sequal, not S-Q-L. I stand by my teaching and still say S-Q-L. You?

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                                  Lashdex
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                                  SQL (officially pronounced /ˌɛskjuːˈɛl/ like "S-Q-L" but often pronounced /ˈsiːkwəl/ like "sequel"), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL[^] History SQL was developed at IBM by Donald D. Chamberlin and Raymond F. Boyce in the early 1970s. This version, initially called SEQUEL (Structured English Query Language), was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in IBM's original quasi-relational database management system, System R, which a group at IBM San Jose Research Laboratory had developed during the 1970s.[6] The acronym SEQUEL was later changed to SQL because "SEQUEL" was a trademark of the UK-based Hawker Siddeley aircraft company.[7]

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                                  • B BillW33

                                    Everyone around here says Sequal.

                                    Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

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                                    Ilion
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                                    I've even seen people spelling it "Sequel Server"

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                                    • W wizardzz

                                      It's true, I never say S-Q-L.

                                      "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!" — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                      Luiz Monad
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                                      Can i respond this question with "linq"? I say linq.

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                                      • X Xiangyang Liu

                                        I say Squirrel.

                                        My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                                        YSLGuru
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                                        Cute kid. Every kid deserves a pet tiger.

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