Microsoft's arrogance with IE9
-
GenJerDan wrote:
I haven't used ctrl-ins since keyboard manufacturers started moving those keys around (even worse on laptops).
That's the primary reason I hate laptop and "alternative" keyboards... For instance, this[^] one, with the extra keys where the right control key is supposed to be... GRRRR... I swapped mine out for an old generic Dell one, because I couldn't stand that layout. And the extra keys below Delete and PgDn make it hard to navigate the arrows by touch, since my right hand just feels for the shape of the four arrows, and the BB keyboard makes it all one big block...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)i use shift+insert all the time because im a linux user so im used to pressing shift+insert to paste into a console. as for microsoft's arrogance, they keep claiming they are the most HTML5 compliant web browser, but only get a 135 on html5test.com, mobile browsers score higher. all other current browsers score higher. hell most of the last generation browsers scrore higher. MS, just open source your browser already, seriously we can fix it...we have the technology. better than it is, faster, stronger, more reliable.
-
You are correct that it does nothing here. I don't know why I got the behavior I described happening for this web site. It did happen so either I used a different key combination than I thought I did or there was a quick modification of this web site's software. Oh wow! Ctrl-Ins in this editor copies to the clipboard. I am using IE9 and for this editor Ctrl-Ins works as it did previously in IE. No where else does Ctrl-Ins do that when using IE9. So that is a strong indication that a modification to the software has occured. Ctrl-Ins does not do nothing in Google Chrome. I tested both it and Seamonkey; for both of those, Ctrl-Ins copies to the clipboard. You won't see it doing anything until you paste from the clipboard. I have been using Ctrl-Ins since before Windows 95; it has always copied to the clipboard in all software except very primitive ones.
Sorry, and you're correct. Earlier I was just trying to duplicate your behavior of losing info or closing a window, which I couldn't. I don't normally use CTRL-Ins so I didn't take it that extra step. But on taking it that extra step, yes, the CTRL-Ins does copy to the clipboard in Chrome. It also copies to the clipboard for me in IE9 here and on Facebook and on Google's language tools so I don't believe anything was changed on this forum's software. I am using the 32-bit IE9 RTM version on Win 7 64-bit. Don't know if any of that matters, but just in case there is something different between versions or OS's.
-
Yep the https:// still shows, in green.
-
Microsoft has become quite arrogant with IE9. They refuse to put the title in the title bar, even when tabs are turned off. They have finally dropped support of Ctrl-Ins for copying to the clipboard.
-
Sorry, and you're correct. Earlier I was just trying to duplicate your behavior of losing info or closing a window, which I couldn't. I don't normally use CTRL-Ins so I didn't take it that extra step. But on taking it that extra step, yes, the CTRL-Ins does copy to the clipboard in Chrome. It also copies to the clipboard for me in IE9 here and on Facebook and on Google's language tools so I don't believe anything was changed on this forum's software. I am using the 32-bit IE9 RTM version on Win 7 64-bit. Don't know if any of that matters, but just in case there is something different between versions or OS's.
I apologize to everyone. My mistake. Evidently the culprit is a toolbar I installed. The toolbar fixes the probelm with the title bar so that the title is put in it. When I disable the toolbar, Ctrl-Ins works as before. When I enable it, I Ctrl-Ins works in the manner I described in my original post. Thank you for correcting me.
-
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but my copy of IE9 puts the title in the title bar and supports CTRL-INS. I'm using Windows 7 with IE9.:confused: Will
dbJeebus
-
You got it. But wait, there is more. If you use Ctrl-Ins twice then you can lose everything. For this web site, when I am creating/editing a post and I use Ctrl-Ins twice, I get the box warning me that I am closing the window. In another web site, when I am editing and use Ctrl-Ins twice, it instantly refreshes the window and everything I typed is gone forever.
"They have finally dropped support of Ctrl-Ins for copying to the clipboard."? Ctrl+Insert works with my copy of Windows7 and IE9. You can also use Ctrl+C, don't know why there are two ways to do the same job. Guess it's because some users are used to copying with Ctrl+C like me and others are use to Ctrl+Insert. Are you using a different version of IE9. If you press Ctrl+C or Ctrl+Insert twice you just copy the same text to the clipboard again. So pressing it the second time will still produce the same clipboard data. Is the web site reading the text in a forms input box and reading which keys you are pressing and then replacing it. You need to try the form without JavaScript turned on, as I would guess that there is a script error on the page. What is the page URL?
-
That is strange because Microsoft admits doing it; see Non-standard use of the title tag[^].
-
That is strange because Microsoft admits doing it; see Non-standard use of the title tag[^].
-
I couldn't open that link, page not available or some such. Do you suppose it has something to do with a setting that's 'grandfathered' in from IE8?
dbJeebus
You need to have access to Microsoft Connect. I was not sure what would happen if someone tried browse the page without access but probably it is an access issue. That site is for reporting bugs in, and other feedback about, Microsoft software. I think it is worth getting access. I don't remember how to register for access and it has been long enough since I did that it is probably easier now.
-
Chrome had its big internal flame war over forcing the http:// out of the address, not even giving the users an option to toggle it on/off. So it's not just Microsoft/IE. I happen to love Chrome and use it as my primary browser everywhere, and although I was skeptical about the removal of http:// from the URL bar, now it looks completely natural and I wouldn't want it back.
