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SkyDrive - Alternative to Dropbox?

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  • M mrchief_2000

    After reading this[^], I'm thinking of moving away from dropbox. Something didn't smell right from day one there anyway. Even though I'm not worried about DRM or copyright content etc., ethically I don't like sites who tell one thing and do another. What are the alternatives? SkyDrive seems nice but I couldn't find any link that talks about what they do and what not. DO you use anything else that is simple as Dropbox and has better security and openness?

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    https://spideroak.com[^]

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      https://spideroak.com[^]

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      Uses the same de-duplication technique as dropbox :(

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      • M mrchief_2000

        After reading this[^], I'm thinking of moving away from dropbox. Something didn't smell right from day one there anyway. Even though I'm not worried about DRM or copyright content etc., ethically I don't like sites who tell one thing and do another. What are the alternatives? SkyDrive seems nice but I couldn't find any link that talks about what they do and what not. DO you use anything else that is simple as Dropbox and has better security and openness?

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        Read all the comments underneath the blog post for further enlightenment. Deduplicating doesn't mean they read your files. What makes you think dropbox are saying one thing and doing another? (unconcerned Dropbox user)

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        • M mrchief_2000

          After reading this[^], I'm thinking of moving away from dropbox. Something didn't smell right from day one there anyway. Even though I'm not worried about DRM or copyright content etc., ethically I don't like sites who tell one thing and do another. What are the alternatives? SkyDrive seems nice but I couldn't find any link that talks about what they do and what not. DO you use anything else that is simple as Dropbox and has better security and openness?

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          If they create a hash of the file before encrypting and store that they get the same results. Otherwise they would have to keep the uncencrypted files for comparison later, increasing storage space. I think someone has jumped to a conclusion.

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          • M mrchief_2000

            After reading this[^], I'm thinking of moving away from dropbox. Something didn't smell right from day one there anyway. Even though I'm not worried about DRM or copyright content etc., ethically I don't like sites who tell one thing and do another. What are the alternatives? SkyDrive seems nice but I couldn't find any link that talks about what they do and what not. DO you use anything else that is simple as Dropbox and has better security and openness?

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            Joan M
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            It works well... the only problem is that if you want to get safety the user has to have a live account.

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            • E effayqueue

              Read all the comments underneath the blog post for further enlightenment. Deduplicating doesn't mean they read your files. What makes you think dropbox are saying one thing and doing another? (unconcerned Dropbox user)

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              effayqueue wrote:

              What makes you think dropbox are saying one thing and doing another

              Read it again. If the file is encrypted, it should not be possible to de-duplicate it... get the idea?

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              • M mrchief_2000

                After reading this[^], I'm thinking of moving away from dropbox. Something didn't smell right from day one there anyway. Even though I'm not worried about DRM or copyright content etc., ethically I don't like sites who tell one thing and do another. What are the alternatives? SkyDrive seems nice but I couldn't find any link that talks about what they do and what not. DO you use anything else that is simple as Dropbox and has better security and openness?

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                kpk2
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                Nice article describing the differences between skydrive vs dropbox vs amazon. http://lifehacker.com/#!5786884/cloud-storage-faceoff-windows-live-skydrive-vs-dropbox-vs-amazon-cloud-drive[^]

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                • L Lost User

                  If they create a hash of the file before encrypting and store that they get the same results. Otherwise they would have to keep the uncencrypted files for comparison later, increasing storage space. I think someone has jumped to a conclusion.

                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                  That's OK if they are using hashes to de-duplicate files. But the last statement is dubious;

                  Dropbox tries to be very smart about minimizing the amount of bandwidth used. If we detect that a file you're trying to upload has already been uploaded to Dropbox, we don't make you upload it again. Similarly, if you make a change to a file that's already on Dropbox, you'll only have to upload the pieces of the file that changed.

                  If a user makes changes to a file which was deemed duplicate, how can it detect only the changed portion and store it if the site cannot read the common file? They are encrypting the data for sure, but I do not think that the private key is per user, which is kinda pointless when it comes to personal data privacy.

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                  • M mrchief_2000

                    Uses the same de-duplication technique as dropbox :(

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                    No it doesn't. It only deduplicates YOUR files alone, not along with everyone else's files.

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                    • K kpk2

                      Nice article describing the differences between skydrive vs dropbox vs amazon. http://lifehacker.com/#!5786884/cloud-storage-faceoff-windows-live-skydrive-vs-dropbox-vs-amazon-cloud-drive[^]

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                      Steve Wellens
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                      Does anyone know how to get a direct link (if possible) to files stored on SkyDrive or AmazonCloud?

                      Steve Wellens

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