what I should do ?
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No he didn't :mad:. His job is to be productive for his employer. As soon as he completes the current assignment, he should ask his supervision for the next. If they don't have one immediately available, he should ask what's the most productive thing he could be doing in the meantime: documenting his past work, learning other products/projects, etc. By the way, in case you're thinking I'm goofing off while I'm posting here on CP (and therefore not being productive for my employer), think again. I've got Visual Studio compiling a project at the moment, and I'm waiting on a product build. Also, I'm waiting for a customer to get out of bed (they're 3 hours behind us, and it's 7:23 a.m. here) before I can debug a problem they're having.
Software Zen:
delete this;I truly hate this kind of behavior. One of the mates who work for me kept doing like this. And just yesterday I sent a stinker and today I spoke fine to explain why this behavior just sucks when we've got tons of work to be completed.
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You are plain wrong. He does what he is paid for. He should work more if he is paid more.
If either one of you were my employee, you wouldn't last long. I would terminate your employment as soon as your poor work ethic became apparent. If your employment contract specifies you are paid a salary for working 40 hours a week, I expect you to be doing your assigned tasks for each and every one of those 40 hours. If you're an hourly employee, I don't expect you to claim you worked 40 hours when you only worked 37. In either case, once you complete an assignment, you should ask for the next. I shouldn't have to baby you along, asking if you're done before I give you another one. If I don't have an immediate assignment for you, I expect you to be doing something which is of benefit to the company. If you're not meeting these requirements, you're a thief.
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Toli Cuturicu wrote:
Try to understand: you are paid to do something in 8 hours and you finish it in 7; the remaining hour is yours, not boss'
Please. Go and tell your boss this. We look forward to you spending more time here in the lounge once he fires you. If you finish the task in 7 hours, then you have 1 hour to start a new task. You are paid to do a job. This is not a complicated concept. This is not rocket science. This is not even Economics 101. If you are paid for 8 hours work, then you are expected to work for 8 hours.
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That is simply false.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
BACON samich
Throw me one of those ;)
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#nom nom nom# One what? :suss:
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
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Sorry mate. As an employer, I find this attitude really, really offensive and I don't want to encourage any bad ideas among the troops.
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Mmm, a nonymouse 1 plus my 5 gets you 4.56; intersting weights. :-D
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
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Of course. If he is that good! The boss wants the job done. He estimates it to last 8 hours. One employee finishes it in 10 hours, so he stays over time. Another finishes it in 5 hours! Congrats! He leaves early! It is the bonus for being proficient!
In a word: cobblers! I have never worked for any company where you would be allowed, let alone expected, to stop work for the day just because you have finished the task you are currently working on. There is always more to do, or at the least more to learn.
The best things in life are not things.
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Of course. If he is that good! The boss wants the job done. He estimates it to last 8 hours. One employee finishes it in 10 hours, so he stays over time. Another finishes it in 5 hours! Congrats! He leaves early! It is the bonus for being proficient!
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Makes sense, doesn't it?
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
[My articles]But it looks like he has poor Loungability skills.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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If either one of you were my employee, you wouldn't last long. I would terminate your employment as soon as your poor work ethic became apparent. If your employment contract specifies you are paid a salary for working 40 hours a week, I expect you to be doing your assigned tasks for each and every one of those 40 hours. If you're an hourly employee, I don't expect you to claim you worked 40 hours when you only worked 37. In either case, once you complete an assignment, you should ask for the next. I shouldn't have to baby you along, asking if you're done before I give you another one. If I don't have an immediate assignment for you, I expect you to be doing something which is of benefit to the company. If you're not meeting these requirements, you're a thief.
Software Zen:
delete this;He finished the task he was assigned to. He deserves a promotion or a salary raise because he is proficient and quick. If you force the employee do more that he was assigned in the same time, you steal from him. Who is the thief then?
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It sounds very attractive. Me and my colleague are given similar tasks. I finish it early. He can not. Why should I be treated the same? It is obvious that I am superior.
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There is work to do for tomorrow. He finished today's work. If he works more than he is being paid it is like charity work.
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So I'll over quote all my work and be finished every day for lunch, sure maybe in Romania but not in developed countries.
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It is never you the one who decides how much time should your assignment take.
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how about some sincere words of wisdom like telling the manager that I have completed the job and get the new task and tell him that I would start working on it from tomorrow. P.S. That's what I did
No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it
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He just said he doesn't want to do more work. How do you not see that this is laziness?
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Not at all. It shows he is hard-working. He worked harder to finish his work in less time than supposed!
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But it looks like he has poor Loungability skills.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
he has poor Loungability skills
and a lot of time for improving... :-D
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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That is simply false.
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Toli Cuturicu wrote:
It is obvious that I think I am superior.
FTFY
The best things in life are not things.
Wrong quote.
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Mmm, a nonymouse 1 plus my 5 gets you 4.56; intersting weights. :-D
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
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Toli Cuturicu wrote:
That is simply false.
Strange that of all the people writing in this thread you are the only one who believes that.
The best things in life are not things.
Yes, it is strange, indeed. You are programmers. You should be on the programmer's side. Instead, you seem to be on the side of the man who forgot / never knew how to code (the boss).