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  • 8 88Rocker

    thats why am asking, "what should we do" ?

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    JustWorking
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    Start taking projects for law prices and make a name for your self.

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    • 8 88Rocker

      thats why am asking, "what should we do" ?

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      First you need to practice - wax on / wax off - until it becomes second nature. And eat bacon. Bacon's real important for 'puters.


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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      • 8 88Rocker

        i know there are different sites, but they dont give projects to new comers i mean i have round about 7 or 8 month experience, but never got project even though how much i tried :sigh:

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        Nish Nishant
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        If you mean free instead of freelance, there are tons of homework questions posted here daily that you can take a shot at. You'll help out some poor miserable student who'll end up as a crappy developer anyway. So nothing gained, nothing lost (for him), and you get some coding experience. :-D

        Regards, Nish


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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          waqas316 wrote:

          people prefer expreienced developers for their work

          I wonder why?

          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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          i really dont know. :^)

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            They changed the name a year or so ago: http://www.vworker.com[^]

            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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            I'ev just checked and I still have an account. I used to make a bit of pin money from it, but when it became "rewrite windows max $100" all the time I stopped going.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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            • 8 88Rocker

              i know there are different sites, but they dont give projects to new comers i mean i have round about 7 or 8 month experience, but never got project even though how much i tried :sigh:

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              Lost User
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              Are you actually that stupid? You need to be an expert in a particular field/technology with a proven track record before you can get the big bucks you get contracting.

              Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                ...still grows best when manured with a big, steaming pile of VWorker.com, yes.

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                Henry Minute
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                :laugh:

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  I'ev just checked and I still have an account. I used to make a bit of pin money from it, but when it became "rewrite windows max $100" all the time I stopped going.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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                  Johnny J
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                  You didn't want to make $100? :confused: ;P

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    I'ev just checked and I still have an account. I used to make a bit of pin money from it, but when it became "rewrite windows max $100" all the time I stopped going.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    I couldn't remember my old account details, so I thought I'd see if it had improved in that respect. But since the change to VWorker, you have to give them all your payment details before you can see what work is available. F that! :-D

                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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                    • L Lost User

                      Are you actually that stupid? You need to be an expert in a particular field/technology with a proven track record before you can get the big bucks you get contracting.

                      Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                      A friend of mine is working in a public school. A few weeks ago, she happened to ask one of the farting little sh!ts darling little kids what he wanted to do when he grew up. In full earnest, he replied "I'm not going to work with anything. I plan on winning the lottery or hacking some credit account"... How's that for a future pillar of society? X| I could have told him that it's easier mugging little old ladies at the ATM in the end of the month when they come to withdraw their pension... ;P

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                      • 8 88Rocker

                        i know there are different sites, but they dont give projects to new comers i mean i have round about 7 or 8 month experience, but never got project even though how much i tried :sigh:

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                        Simon P Stevens
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                        Having gone freelance recently myself (Today in fact. See thread below) this is what I've found most helpful. 1) Go to local developer user groups and get to know people. 2) Speak at local developer user groups on topics that get you excited. 3) Have a website of technical stuff that you are interested in. 4) Make your code available online somehow. I have a github profile of personal projects, or you can focus on contribution to other open source projects, but do something that allows potential employers to review your code. 5) Get on linked in and connect with other developers in your area (who you met from the user group). Ultimately what this boils down to is be active and visible. The stuff above I have been doing for the last 2-3 years, not really with the intention of going freelance, but now I have I am pretty sure these activities were the biggest help. When you are actually ready to commit, upload your CV to a few jobsites, and make sure people in your network know you are available. Remember that when it comes to contract work it's not like permanent employment. Employers aren't interested in people with good potential, or who have the scope to be trained in a framework. You need to have a level of expertise in exactly what they want. Being just a general .net developer isn't good enough, you need to have specialisms. In a permanent job an employer might hire a .net dev who's only done WinForms because they know WPF can be taught quickly to someone good. Contract employers won't, you need to know WPF inside out from day 1 if that's what they use. You are going to need to be an expert. 7-8 months experience isn't much, you will need to show you are an expert. If you've been working on open source and personal projects for years prior then sure you should be able to land some contract work with only 7-8 months professional experience, but if your only development experience has been in those 7-8 months you probably need to spend some time working on your skill set first. One thing I discovered is that most employers who want freelancers want them *immediately* they aren't interested in waiting for you to work out your months notice. When you are ready you have to fully commit and quit your job before you have anything solid to go to. There are of course exceptions to this, especially if you network and discover the need for something before it's really announced, but by the time most positions become public they are looking to fill at very short notice.

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          First you need to practice - wax on / wax off - until it becomes second nature. And eat bacon. Bacon's real important for 'puters.


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                          And eat bacon. Bacon's real important for 'puters.

                          That line is brilliant :laugh: +5

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                          • 8 88Rocker

                            i know there are different sites, but they dont give projects to new comers i mean i have round about 7 or 8 month experience, but never got project even though how much i tried :sigh:

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                            Joan M
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                            You have competitors, so it is normal that the person/company who is looking for someone to make the job would prefer somebody with a high level of experience, expertise, knowledge... What an employer is searching is a mixture of knowledge and experience in the fields that the employer must solve. It is typical that when you are searching for a job you will face the fact that some employers will only give a job to you if you've worked before and of course this makes it a little bit more difficult, but this is how it works... Don't despair, keep improving your skills, start looking for a job that probably won't have a high salary in order to get experience... You'll see that you will learn a lot once you start working... Not only in concepts and the programming issues, but job issues: how to cope with others, sharing space with others, sharing tasks... Good luck! :thumbsup:

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              I'ev just checked and I still have an account. I used to make a bit of pin money from it, but when it became "rewrite windows max $100" all the time I stopped going.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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                              Very understandable. It is like I always say: If you are only paying peanuts, you should not wonder too much about only having monkeys apply for the job.

                              "I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
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                              • N Nish Nishant

                                If you mean free instead of freelance, there are tons of homework questions posted here daily that you can take a shot at. You'll help out some poor miserable student who'll end up as a crappy developer anyway. So nothing gained, nothing lost (for him), and you get some coding experience. :-D

                                Regards, Nish


                                Are you addicted to CP? If so, check this out: The Code Project Forum Analyzer : Find out how much of a life you don't have! My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                Marc A Brown
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                                Aw Nish, that's cold. I like it!

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  First you need to practice - wax on / wax off - until it becomes second nature. And eat bacon. Bacon's real important for 'puters.


                                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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                                  Wonderful. 5. end. LOL.

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                                  • 8 88Rocker

                                    i know there are different sites, but they dont give projects to new comers i mean i have round about 7 or 8 month experience, but never got project even though how much i tried :sigh:

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                                    you want to read the series that Pete O'Hanlon wrote Going Solo articles[^]

                                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                    And eat bacon. Bacon's real important for 'puters.

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                                    • 8 88Rocker

                                      i know there are different sites, but they dont give projects to new comers i mean i have round about 7 or 8 month experience, but never got project even though how much i tried :sigh:

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                                      Have you tried capitalizing "i" occasionally?

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                                      • J Johnny J

                                        A friend of mine is working in a public school. A few weeks ago, she happened to ask one of the farting little sh!ts darling little kids what he wanted to do when he grew up. In full earnest, he replied "I'm not going to work with anything. I plan on winning the lottery or hacking some credit account"... How's that for a future pillar of society? X| I could have told him that it's easier mugging little old ladies at the ATM in the end of the month when they come to withdraw their pension... ;P

                                        Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                                        I suppose killing the little bastard and leaving his head on a pike outside the classroom as a lesson to others is out of the question?

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          I suppose killing the little bastard and leaving his head on a pike outside the classroom as a lesson to others is out of the question?

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          Johnny J
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                                          I suspect so, but it IS an idea worth pursuing. I know a lot of people who are nothing but a waste of oxygen... :laugh:

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