Lord save us - MS to buy borland?
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I used to love borland technology - hint much of the stuff in .NET, particularly C# and the WinForms stuff draws it's heritage from Delphi. I HATED the way they went about customer support as well as being utterly clueless in terms of effectively marketing a great product (IMHO). IF this story is true, and frankly the reporting seems truly incompetent - since when is Oracle a separate environment, as in: " in non-Microsoft environments, such as those offered by Oracle Corp" WTF ??? Isn't this kind of iffy legally - wouldn't they be buying up some of the last of the competition in Windows development tools? Maybe not. Oh well, it all just a big joke anyways ! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire!
Jim Crafton wrote: " in non-Microsoft environments, such as those offered by Oracle Corp" Oracle’s marketing, most of the time, try to their best to dissociate their products from Microsoft’s. They usually promote scalability as the ability to go to Unix, and ease of programming with Java. I see dumb people
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Borland recently bought TogetherSoft. TogetherSoft makes a UML tool.
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Jim Crafton wrote: Since when did Borland make a UML tool ??? Or any modeling tools ? Jim, AFAIK, Borland's enterprise suite has a modeling tool called "ModelMaker". I haven't personally used it; neither have I known that it is that popular when compared with other modeling software such as Rational Rose.
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I used to love borland technology - hint much of the stuff in .NET, particularly C# and the WinForms stuff draws it's heritage from Delphi. I HATED the way they went about customer support as well as being utterly clueless in terms of effectively marketing a great product (IMHO). IF this story is true, and frankly the reporting seems truly incompetent - since when is Oracle a separate environment, as in: " in non-Microsoft environments, such as those offered by Oracle Corp" WTF ??? Isn't this kind of iffy legally - wouldn't they be buying up some of the last of the competition in Windows development tools? Maybe not. Oh well, it all just a big joke anyways ! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire!
Jim Crafton wrote: since when is Oracle a separate environment, as in: Since Oracle came out with Oracle9i Application Server. Jason Gerard "This almost never matters, except quite often."
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Jim Crafton wrote: Since when did Borland make a UML tool ??? Or any modeling tools ? Jim, AFAIK, Borland's enterprise suite has a modeling tool called "ModelMaker". I haven't personally used it; neither have I known that it is that popular when compared with other modeling software such as Rational Rose.
JBuilder 7, which I use daily, has some nice UML features built in. Jason Gerard "This almost never matters, except quite often."
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Borland is an also ran company. The only reason Microsoft would buy them is if they have a specific technology that would be cheaper to buy than to build. Frankly, given the quality of Borland software these days, Microsoft's better off building it themselves. (Plus, there would be some legitimate concerns given that Borland does compete, even if not very well, against Microsoft in some narrow areas.)
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same here, come on MS, buy Rational from under IBMs nose, Rational Rose is a great piece of software.
:omg: I hope that was sarcasm!?! William E. Kempf
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Much as i despair of ever using a quality Borland product again, i hope they are not absorbed into MS. Face it, they're doing more to improve MS products as a competitor than they could possibly do even if kept alive once assimilated. Lack of competition produces stuff like "Rose"... :~
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I used to love borland technology - hint much of the stuff in .NET, particularly C# and the WinForms stuff draws it's heritage from Delphi. I HATED the way they went about customer support as well as being utterly clueless in terms of effectively marketing a great product (IMHO). IF this story is true, and frankly the reporting seems truly incompetent - since when is Oracle a separate environment, as in: " in non-Microsoft environments, such as those offered by Oracle Corp" WTF ??? Isn't this kind of iffy legally - wouldn't they be buying up some of the last of the competition in Windows development tools? Maybe not. Oh well, it all just a big joke anyways ! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire!