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  • L Lost User

    Well, thats not really the case here is it since its not so much a religious thing as cultural. You could say that locking pregnant unmarried women up in mental hoimes is religious, just because it was done in the UK 50 years ago, but its not true.

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    The point I made about religion was because that article mentioned that it is "Hindu custom to pay large dowries". So what's their answer? Do they shun a stupid religion? No, they kill their firstborns if they're girls.

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      The point I made about religion was because that article mentioned that it is "Hindu custom to pay large dowries". So what's their answer? Do they shun a stupid religion? No, they kill their firstborns if they're girls.

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      It used to be a tradition in the west, so again, its not so much religious as cultural so your question is more "do they shun a stupud cultural habit? No, they kill their first born"

      Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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        fat_boy wrote:

        I would probably kill myself before I would do any of that to my daughter.

        Before I had kids, I could read an article like that with impunity. Wring my hands, and be astounded how cruel people could be with little personal attachment. Now ive got a little girl, same age as the child in that article, and for some reason reading that elicits a more angered response. Why can I not read it without imagining my little one in that situation?

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        Its because as parents we extend our feelings towards all kids. :)

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        • L Lost User

          It used to be a tradition in the west, so again, its not so much religious as cultural so your question is more "do they shun a stupud cultural habit? No, they kill their first born"

          Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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          Oakman
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          You really are way off base here. Women were often prized for the bridal price they could bring it. Look it up.

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          • W wolfbinary

            Is there really any reason to be this stupid other than old cultural norms? There's nothing like culturally accepted cruelty to start the day. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110504/ap_on_re_as/as_india_no_country_for_little_girls[^]

            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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            Oakman
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            The east simply does not value human life or human individuality the way the west does.

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              Is there really any reason to be this stupid other than old cultural norms? There's nothing like culturally accepted cruelty to start the day. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110504/ap_on_re_as/as_india_no_country_for_little_girls[^]

              That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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              Steve Mayfield
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              With no girls, how are the boys going to keep the family lines going :sigh: or is it going to come to the girls going only to the males with the best genetic ... Hitler wins!

              Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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              • J J4amieC

                How do people do things like this to their own children. I will never understand it. Yet another reason to ban religion - in this case Hinduism, but every stupid religion has some stupid, outdated and often damn right archaic customs.

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                SimulationofSai
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                J4amieC wrote:

                Yet another reason to ban religion - in this case Hinduism, but every stupid religion has some stupid, outdated and often damn right archaic customs

                Unfortunately mate, the Hindu religion has nothing to do with this. There is absolutely no text sacred or evil that even remotely suggests female infanticide. And Hinduism has 33 million gods, half of which are female. The female infanticide custom largely sprang in the 19th century when dowries were given out in ornaments and wealth rather than the cows and grains which the bride is sent to the husbands home with. Since most folks were farmers, it was considered good fortune for the bride, an incarnation of the goddess of wealth, to bring in grains, seeds and cows which were signs of prosperity. Giving such stuff away as dowry was not a problem for most farmers. But when this was substituted with gold and money, stuff harder to procure, things started turning out to bad for female children. You may be an atheist and not care, but this is an evil social custom rather than a religious one.

                SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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                  The east simply does not value human life or human individuality the way the west does.

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                  SimulationofSai
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                  Oakman wrote:

                  The east simply does not value human life or human individuality the way the west does.

                  That's utter crap; and the east, west, north and south knows that. :laugh:

                  SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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                  • J J4amieC

                    The point I made about religion was because that article mentioned that it is "Hindu custom to pay large dowries". So what's their answer? Do they shun a stupid religion? No, they kill their firstborns if they're girls.

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                    SimulationofSai
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                    J4amieC wrote:

                    article mentioned that it is "Hindu custom to pay large dowries". So what's their answer?

                    The article is wrong, written by people who have no real knowledge of either Hinduism or life in rural India. Pretty much any family, belonging to any religion, has to cough up a dowry when marrying off a girl child. It's not so bad in the urban cities, and families which are educated or generally well off decent people.

                    SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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                    • O Oakman

                      You really are way off base here. Women were often prized for the bridal price they could bring it. Look it up.

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                      Lost User
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                      No I am not. In the culture underdiscussion its the opposite. They are seen as expensive. In the west it is still the father of the bride who pays for the wedding. This itslef reflects the same mentality. Like I said, its not religious, its ciultural.

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                        J4amieC wrote:

                        article mentioned that it is "Hindu custom to pay large dowries". So what's their answer?

                        The article is wrong, written by people who have no real knowledge of either Hinduism or life in rural India. Pretty much any family, belonging to any religion, has to cough up a dowry when marrying off a girl child. It's not so bad in the urban cities, and families which are educated or generally well off decent people.

                        SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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                        SimulationofSai wrote:

                        Pretty much any family, belonging to any religion, has to cough up a dowry when marrying off a girl child

                        Thank you, you just confirmed what I said. Its got nothing to do with religion, its cultural. And in fact it pisses me off when I see people picking on religion mistaking it for culture.

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                        • L Lost User

                          No I am not. In the culture underdiscussion its the opposite. They are seen as expensive. In the west it is still the father of the bride who pays for the wedding. This itslef reflects the same mentality. Like I said, its not religious, its ciultural.

                          Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                          Tarun K S
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                          Well said.

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                          • W wolfbinary

                            Is there really any reason to be this stupid other than old cultural norms? There's nothing like culturally accepted cruelty to start the day. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110504/ap_on_re_as/as_india_no_country_for_little_girls[^]

                            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                            Sandesh M Patil
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                            :( Its a sad truth in india. Indians don't treat girls as they treat boys. But now conditions improving :|

                            Cheers,
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                            • L Lost User

                              No I am not. In the culture underdiscussion its the opposite. They are seen as expensive. In the west it is still the father of the bride who pays for the wedding. This itslef reflects the same mentality. Like I said, its not religious, its ciultural.

                              Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                              fjdiewornncalwe
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                              Dagnabbit, fat_boy... Sometimes hell does freeze over and I find myself agreeing with you. :)

                              I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                SimulationofSai wrote:

                                Pretty much any family, belonging to any religion, has to cough up a dowry when marrying off a girl child

                                Thank you, you just confirmed what I said. Its got nothing to do with religion, its cultural. And in fact it pisses me off when I see people picking on religion mistaking it for culture.

                                Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                                fjdiewornncalwe
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                                Agreed, however is many cases religion and culture are so tightly wound together it is hard to see the difference, even for those who are part of the religion/culture in question.

                                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                • F fjdiewornncalwe

                                  Dagnabbit, fat_boy... Sometimes hell does freeze over and I find myself agreeing with you. :)

                                  I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  I am always reasonable, and right you know. One day you will realise that AGW was a crock of shit too. :)

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                                  • F fjdiewornncalwe

                                    Agreed, however is many cases religion and culture are so tightly wound together it is hard to see the difference, even for those who are part of the religion/culture in question.

                                    I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                    Yes, its often hard to differentiate, and in fact religion becomes tainted with culture to such an extent the same religions can appear very different in different parts of the world.

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                                    • S SimulationofSai

                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      The east simply does not value human life or human individuality the way the west does.

                                      That's utter crap; and the east, west, north and south knows that. :laugh:

                                      SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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                                      Oakman
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                                      There are none so blind as those who cannot see

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