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  • R randprin

    but, but, what would you do with the angry mob of teeagers who had "princess leia in jaba's palace" fantasies...? :laugh:

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    But they would not exist

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      Give them far more interesting things to fantasize about. ;)


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      John C wrote:

      Give them far more interesting things to fantasize about.

      using their left hand of darkness, right?

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        ...Among many things go back and excise Star Wars from history and replace it with just about *any* of the excellent science fiction novels written to that point. Maybe convince George to do Left hand of Darkness or The Stars My destination or Starship Troopers or The Forever War (or each in turn) instead with the same resources.


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        Left hand of Darkness

        I don't seem to recall the space fights in that one :laugh:. I'm a huge LeGuin fan, but I don't really see her novels translating into film.

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          Give them far more interesting things to fantasize about. ;)


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          Any suggestions? :-)

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            John C wrote:

            Left hand of Darkness

            I don't seem to recall the space fights in that one :laugh:. I'm a huge LeGuin fan, but I don't really see her novels translating into film.

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            Andy Brummer wrote:

            I'm a huge LeGuin fan, but I don't really see her novels translating into film.

            Seriously? I think Left hand of darkness would make an excellent movie if done right.


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              Any suggestions? :-)

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              Most of the latter Heinlein for starters and much of the 60's and 70's sci fi in general. :)


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                Andy Brummer wrote:

                I'm a huge LeGuin fan, but I don't really see her novels translating into film.

                Seriously? I think Left hand of darkness would make an excellent movie if done right.


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                Well, it definitely wouldn't be a replacement for Star Wars. What I love about her is the quality of her writing and storytelling. The stories themselves can stand on their own, but without her words and her language I wouldn't be as interested. She is a decent writer, but she is an incredible storyteller. I don't think that can be translated across mediums. There are films where the art of movie making is so strong that the story becomes almost irrelevant, but bringing something like that in would loose the LeGuinness of the piece.

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                  Well, it definitely wouldn't be a replacement for Star Wars. What I love about her is the quality of her writing and storytelling. The stories themselves can stand on their own, but without her words and her language I wouldn't be as interested. She is a decent writer, but she is an incredible storyteller. I don't think that can be translated across mediums. There are films where the art of movie making is so strong that the story becomes almost irrelevant, but bringing something like that in would loose the LeGuinness of the piece.

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                  Yeah and Lucas wouldn't be the man to even try unfortunately. Star wars wasn't very original. It stands the test of time based on the characters which are two dimensional and iconic and easily digested by the masses and the imagery which, over the years, we've come to find out was looted wholesale from existing sources but there are *so* many better examples in sci fi. I have hope to see a golden age of sci fi novels to movies / tv series. We've firmly entered the sweet spot of special effects where they are good enough to do any of those stories. Just look at the recent Game Of Thrones series which is fantastic and so far I can't find any fault with even as a fan of the original novels.


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                    Yeah and Lucas wouldn't be the man to even try unfortunately. Star wars wasn't very original. It stands the test of time based on the characters which are two dimensional and iconic and easily digested by the masses and the imagery which, over the years, we've come to find out was looted wholesale from existing sources but there are *so* many better examples in sci fi. I have hope to see a golden age of sci fi novels to movies / tv series. We've firmly entered the sweet spot of special effects where they are good enough to do any of those stories. Just look at the recent Game Of Thrones series which is fantastic and so far I can't find any fault with even as a fan of the original novels.


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                    I'll definitely have to check Game of Thrones out. With my 2 sub 5 year old kids, my wife and I don't get much time for movies and shows. I think 1-2 hours a week is the max for us. It will be easier when we start introducing more screen time into the house, but now it's limited to 5 minute shorts for the 4 year old. Mostly ballet performances on youTube right now.

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                      I'll definitely have to check Game of Thrones out. With my 2 sub 5 year old kids, my wife and I don't get much time for movies and shows. I think 1-2 hours a week is the max for us. It will be easier when we start introducing more screen time into the house, but now it's limited to 5 minute shorts for the 4 year old. Mostly ballet performances on youTube right now.

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                      Speaking as a big fan of Game of Thrones and a degenerate tv watcher (we watch a *lot* of good tv) I have to say it's superb.


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                        Yeah and Lucas wouldn't be the man to even try unfortunately. Star wars wasn't very original. It stands the test of time based on the characters which are two dimensional and iconic and easily digested by the masses and the imagery which, over the years, we've come to find out was looted wholesale from existing sources but there are *so* many better examples in sci fi. I have hope to see a golden age of sci fi novels to movies / tv series. We've firmly entered the sweet spot of special effects where they are good enough to do any of those stories. Just look at the recent Game Of Thrones series which is fantastic and so far I can't find any fault with even as a fan of the original novels.


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                        Sci fi? Game Of Thrones? Do you even know the difference between sci fi and fantasy? As for George R. R. Martin, at best he's third-rate. Stop watching so much TV and do more reading, John. There are much better writers than Martin. X|

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                          Sci fi? Game Of Thrones? Do you even know the difference between sci fi and fantasy? As for George R. R. Martin, at best he's third-rate. Stop watching so much TV and do more reading, John. There are much better writers than Martin. X|

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                          You are mistaken in your ire, go back and read what I wrote and be ashamed.


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                            Sci fi? Game Of Thrones? Do you even know the difference between sci fi and fantasy? As for George R. R. Martin, at best he's third-rate. Stop watching so much TV and do more reading, John. There are much better writers than Martin. X|

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                            I'm curious as to why Elijah Bailey and Robinette Broadhead haven't made it to the big screen yet... And on the fantasy side, I'd love to see Thomas Covenant or Stile up there... (Wonder if anyone will understand all four references there...)

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                              Give them far more interesting things to fantasize about. ;)


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                              It doesn't get more interesting than the various relationships that exist between Luke and Leia. Well, there is one slightly more interesting relationship I can think of. The actress that plays Clark's mom in Smallville played Lana in one of the Superman movies. That means Superman had a romantic interest in his mom. :~

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                                I'm curious as to why Elijah Bailey and Robinette Broadhead haven't made it to the big screen yet... And on the fantasy side, I'd love to see Thomas Covenant or Stile up there... (Wonder if anyone will understand all four references there...)

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                                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                Robinette Broadhead

                                Sounds like an interesting stage name.

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                                  but, but, what would you do with the angry mob of teeagers who had "princess leia in jaba's palace" fantasies...? :laugh:

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                                  You believe it would be just teenagers?

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                                    I'm curious as to why Elijah Bailey and Robinette Broadhead haven't made it to the big screen yet... And on the fantasy side, I'd love to see Thomas Covenant or Stile up there... (Wonder if anyone will understand all four references there...)

                                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                    Seconding that and adding Ender Wiggins to that list.

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                                      ...Among many things go back and excise Star Wars from history and replace it with just about *any* of the excellent science fiction novels written to that point. Maybe convince George to do Left hand of Darkness or The Stars My destination or Starship Troopers or The Forever War (or each in turn) instead with the same resources.


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                                      If you said stop after Empire, I would agree. I still love that movie. Lucas didn't make anything good after Gary Kurtz left him.

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                                        Any suggestions? :-)

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                                        If you want to give them ideas, Philip José Farmer wrote some good ones, including pr0n fantasy - look for "Image of the Beast" and "Blown". Might be difficult to get teens into the cinema to see them though. Books that would have made good films by him: the Riverworld or the World of Tiers series.

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                                          I'm curious as to why Elijah Bailey and Robinette Broadhead haven't made it to the big screen yet... And on the fantasy side, I'd love to see Thomas Covenant or Stile up there... (Wonder if anyone will understand all four references there...)

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                          Elijah Bailey: The robot series couldn't be a film nowadays: he smokes a pipe! Robinette Broadhead: the Gateway/Heechee series. Would make good films, but probably not including the first book - way too much "mushy stuff". Thomas Covenant: Oh come on! Donaldson just puts me to sleep... Stile - do you mean Piers Anthony? Would make pretty good films, but you would confuse a lot of viewers with the SF/Fantasy world switching.

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