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    Nithin Sundar wrote:

    What do you guys think?

    It's too early to think.

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    I would appreciate your post better if it had contained a valid argument/fact.

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      Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?

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      My internet connection has a FUP. But it appears to have a different notion of what is fair - I've used nearly 1TB of bandwidth in some months and that was OK. They never mention any actual numbers that you shouldn't go over, and the only "punishment" they mention is a warning letter (which I never received).

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        My internet connection has a FUP. But it appears to have a different notion of what is fair - I've used nearly 1TB of bandwidth in some months and that was OK. They never mention any actual numbers that you shouldn't go over, and the only "punishment" they mention is a warning letter (which I never received).

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        Wow! 1 TB is a lot. Speaking of that, a FUP system is perfectly acceptable with a decent speed which is affordable and reasonable. For example, just by browsing with very minimal Youtube usage with an occasional download which doesn't even come near 300 to 500 MB let alone 1 GB files, the transfer limit exceeds the 8GB limit on my connection in less than 20 days. And I have to tell you that I don't use torrents at all in this period as well. The FUP limit offered is sort of sad along with the high price tag for a good speed.

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          Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?

          My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          Broadband could be a little cheaper than what it is, but I think that the data transfer limits are there for a good reason. I've a 25 Gig/month data transfer limit, and I find it far more than sufficient.

          "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

            Broadband could be a little cheaper than what it is, but I think that the data transfer limits are there for a good reason. I've a 25 Gig/month data transfer limit, and I find it far more than sufficient.

            "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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            Nithin Sundar
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            Yeah would be good to see some prices go down. It's about time they did that. :( By the way what speed do you use with a 25 GB limit?

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              Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?

              My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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              Capitalism at its best! What is there to gain from them giving you more for your money? You need real competition (not just competition in name). Like gasoline prices in the US, a-nod-and-a-wink and the prices at all the companies goes up together - quickly - and down slowly. The profits are at record levels. Implication? They all raised the prices more than is necessary to keep up with the price of oil. What about competition? Why do I hear you laughing ? ? So, the same with your ISP's. It's in none of their interests to start cutting prices (or even start price war). My provider (15 MB/s) throttles uploads [a common practice] to 2 Mb/s. The reality of this (it seems) is that if you up-load, you're really demanding the maximum bandwidth, whilst if downloading, you'll only get (at most) data rates based on your sender. They really never need to supply anywhere near the advertised bandwidth. This cost $50 US/month. No options for slower rates . . . but now they've a near continuous sale price of ca. $30/month as part of a telephone/cable TV bundle. That is because Verizon is now competing with them directly. Verizon, too, has had to bite-the-bullet, frequently dropping its insistence on a contract since their competitor doesn't. In either case, the price goes up after 12 months . . . . . . however, a loyal customer, such as myself, will explain to them that either they keep my rate 'down' or I'll switch to their competitor. At this point, their business records now show that I mean it. But, more directly on topic: put yourself in your ISP's position . . . why lower prices? For them, things are fine as they are.

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                Yeah would be good to see some prices go down. It's about time they did that. :( By the way what speed do you use with a 25 GB limit?

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                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                Nithin Sundar wrote:

                By the way what speed do you use with a 25 GB limit?

                I currently use a 4 Mbps connection.

                "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                  Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?

                  My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                  Richard A Dalton
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                  Nithin Sundar wrote:

                  What do you guys think?

                  In think lots of things. I think things aren't as bad in Ireland as we thought. I think it makes sense now why I used to wait so long for offshore devs in India to turn stuff around. Reading my emails probably took you up to lunch time. I think we should all move to Nigeria. Judging by the amount of crap they spew onto the internet and into our mailboxes each day, those guys must have fibre optics inserted directly into their ass. -Richard

                  Hit any user to continue.

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                    Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?

                    My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    To break your heart further, I have a 50mb line, unlimited volume and it only costs £25 a month. See Here[^]. But the UK is one of the most densely populated countries on the face of the Earth, so it is viable for this kind of thing.

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                      Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?

                      My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                      Abhinav S
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                      Nithin Sundar wrote:

                      What do you guys think?

                      I dont know about other countries but I use a connection where the speed is cut to 256 KBps once a download exceeds a certain limit and this sucks!

                      The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.

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                        Nithin Sundar wrote:

                        What do you guys think?

                        I dont know about other countries but I use a connection where the speed is cut to 256 KBps once a download exceeds a certain limit and this sucks!

                        The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.

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                        Nithin Sundar
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                        Refer my original post again. :rolleyes:

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                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                          Nithin Sundar wrote:

                          By the way what speed do you use with a 25 GB limit?

                          I currently use a 4 Mbps connection.

                          "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                          Nithin Sundar
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                          Oh I see. My ISP (Airtel) provides a 20 GB limit for 2 mbps. I think you must get more than 30 GB for 4 mbps to be fair. :suss:

                          My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                            Capitalism at its best! What is there to gain from them giving you more for your money? You need real competition (not just competition in name). Like gasoline prices in the US, a-nod-and-a-wink and the prices at all the companies goes up together - quickly - and down slowly. The profits are at record levels. Implication? They all raised the prices more than is necessary to keep up with the price of oil. What about competition? Why do I hear you laughing ? ? So, the same with your ISP's. It's in none of their interests to start cutting prices (or even start price war). My provider (15 MB/s) throttles uploads [a common practice] to 2 Mb/s. The reality of this (it seems) is that if you up-load, you're really demanding the maximum bandwidth, whilst if downloading, you'll only get (at most) data rates based on your sender. They really never need to supply anywhere near the advertised bandwidth. This cost $50 US/month. No options for slower rates . . . but now they've a near continuous sale price of ca. $30/month as part of a telephone/cable TV bundle. That is because Verizon is now competing with them directly. Verizon, too, has had to bite-the-bullet, frequently dropping its insistence on a contract since their competitor doesn't. In either case, the price goes up after 12 months . . . . . . however, a loyal customer, such as myself, will explain to them that either they keep my rate 'down' or I'll switch to their competitor. At this point, their business records now show that I mean it. But, more directly on topic: put yourself in your ISP's position . . . why lower prices? For them, things are fine as they are.

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            Nithin Sundar
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                            Very true. ISPs will start feeling the real heat when a competitor comes up with lower prices. Hope many people shift to such a provider here. Will give the ISPs a run for their money for fooling customers. Thank you for your wonderful post!

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                            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                              Nithin Sundar wrote:

                              By the way what speed do you use with a 25 GB limit?

                              I currently use a 4 Mbps connection.

                              "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                              And how much do you pay for that?

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                                To break your heart further, I have a 50mb line, unlimited volume and it only costs £25 a month. See Here[^]. But the UK is one of the most densely populated countries on the face of the Earth, so it is viable for this kind of thing.

                                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                Nithin Sundar
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                                Aww darn. That just makes it even worse. Just as you planned. :mad: You should be nominated for the world's biggest Supervillain of all time! :D

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                                  Nithin Sundar wrote:

                                  What do you guys think?

                                  In think lots of things. I think things aren't as bad in Ireland as we thought. I think it makes sense now why I used to wait so long for offshore devs in India to turn stuff around. Reading my emails probably took you up to lunch time. I think we should all move to Nigeria. Judging by the amount of crap they spew onto the internet and into our mailboxes each day, those guys must have fibre optics inserted directly into their ass. -Richard

                                  Hit any user to continue.

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                                  Nithin Sundar
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                                  :laugh:

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                                    To break your heart further, I have a 50mb line, unlimited volume and it only costs £25 a month. See Here[^]. But the UK is one of the most densely populated countries on the face of the Earth, so it is viable for this kind of thing.

                                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                    Nithin Sundar
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                                    I think the amount what you pay for a 50mb line over there is almost equal to the amount we pay for getting closer to a 4mb line. :sigh:

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                                      Refer my original post again. :rolleyes:

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                                      Nithin Sundar wrote:

                                      Refer my original post again.

                                      And mine too - it SUCKS! :)

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                                        I would appreciate your post better if it had contained a valid argument/fact.

                                        My Blog My Achievements: * Posted 25,000th message in GIT O_O * Official supporter of the "thatraja's GIT Meet Sponsor Foundation" :D What you do, when you don't know what to do is what you do when you don't want to do what you do.

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                                        welcome to the lounge

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                                          welcome to the lounge

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                                          Nithin Sundar
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                                          Sorry but I do know that a LOT of Lounge regulars post more sensible replies than lame one liners. Most of the replies in this thread ought to prove that. Thanks. By the way, I didn't downvote that fellow.

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