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  • H Henry Minute

    ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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    Ravi Bhavnani
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    I don't think you're imagining it. The spelling ability of adult native English speakers appears to have fallen in the past 10-15 years.  CNN's TV and online media are prime examples (at least in the US).  Txtspk may have something to do with it.  Most software engineers I know also find it difficult to correctly write technical documentation.  This seems to be a marked change from the '80s. /ravi

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    • H Henry Minute

      ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Yess, thay r.

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      • H Henry Minute

        ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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        Amar Chaudhary
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        The keyboard issue : here is a seemple solution[^] ;P

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          Yess, thay r.

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          Henry Minute
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          I saw this earlier today as a link off of a link off of a link from a post by someone-or-other. I suspect that it's a repost but I don't remember seeing it before. Even if it's not actually a repost for CP, with your well known Star Wars predilection you have probably seen it before anyway, so it's probably not worth posting it. No, definitely not, I'll not bother. Although, having said that, others might not have seen it. I think you're placing your own importance far too high, so I'll post it anyway. ;P Thought this might amuse some.[^]

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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          • H Henry Minute

            I saw this earlier today as a link off of a link off of a link from a post by someone-or-other. I suspect that it's a repost but I don't remember seeing it before. Even if it's not actually a repost for CP, with your well known Star Wars predilection you have probably seen it before anyway, so it's probably not worth posting it. No, definitely not, I'll not bother. Although, having said that, others might not have seen it. I think you're placing your own importance far too high, so I'll post it anyway. ;P Thought this might amuse some.[^]

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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            Pete OHanlon
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            I have not seen this one before. It's very good.

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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            • H Henry Minute

              ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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              I don't consider the lounge to be a published work so I don't proof what I write and I am quite often surprised at my misspellings. (mostly homonyms) I will, at the very least, fix FF squigglies.

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                I don't consider the lounge to be a published work so I don't proof what I write and I am quite often surprised at my misspellings. (mostly homonyms) I will, at the very least, fix FF squigglies.

                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                Henry Minute
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                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                I am quite often surprised at my misspellings. (mostly homonyms) I will, at the very least, fix FF squigglies.

                I hear you. Sometimes an absolute squiggle fest.

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                • H Henry Minute

                  ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                  Roger Wright
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                  No, it's not your imagination. Spelling is becoming a lost art everywhere. I blame it on the trend against beating children in school and at home. It's really noticable in schools, as I'm seeing that the great majority of teachers cannot themselves spell worth a tinker's damn. I have friends who are students, and see the assignments and comments from their teachers - at all levels - and few can write a simple sentence, spell everything correctly, and punctuate properly. It's a general trend toward an illiterate future, and one I fear we're powerless to stop.

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    No, it's not your imagination. Spelling is becoming a lost art everywhere. I blame it on the trend against beating children in school and at home. It's really noticable in schools, as I'm seeing that the great majority of teachers cannot themselves spell worth a tinker's damn. I have friends who are students, and see the assignments and comments from their teachers - at all levels - and few can write a simple sentence, spell everything correctly, and punctuate properly. It's a general trend toward an illiterate future, and one I fear we're powerless to stop.

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Henry Minute
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                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    I blame it on the trend against beating children in school and at home

                    :thumbsup: If the little b***ards won't listen, thrash them to within an inch of their lives. I've noticed it getting slowly worse since the mid-eighties and I think that spell-checkers have a lot to answer for.

                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    It's a general trend toward an illiterate future, and one I fear we're powerless to stop.

                    I regretfully have to agree.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                    • H Henry Minute

                      ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                      Well yeas!

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                      • H Henry Minute

                        Roger Wright wrote:

                        I blame it on the trend against beating children in school and at home

                        :thumbsup: If the little b***ards won't listen, thrash them to within an inch of their lives. I've noticed it getting slowly worse since the mid-eighties and I think that spell-checkers have a lot to answer for.

                        Roger Wright wrote:

                        It's a general trend toward an illiterate future, and one I fear we're powerless to stop.

                        I regretfully have to agree.

                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                        Roger Wright
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                        Henry Minute wrote:

                        If the little b***ards won't listen, thrash them to within an inch of their lives.

                        It worked on us, didn't it? I'll stand by Occam's Razor until I see convincing evidence that the cause lies elsewhere.

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          Henry Minute wrote:

                          If the little b***ards won't listen, thrash them to within an inch of their lives.

                          It worked on us, didn't it? I'll stand by Occam's Razor until I see convincing evidence that the cause lies elsewhere.

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          Henry Minute
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                          Roger Wright wrote:

                          It worked on us, didn't it?

                          For the most part. Although oddly enough, not in my case for spelling, I am like ChrisElston and OriginalGriff in that respect.

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                          • H Henry Minute

                            ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

                            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                            Reelix
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                            Typo = Evil Red Squiggle. Due to this wondrous invention, my linguistic vernacular is able to achieve heights beyond what even I myself am capable of.... ;P

                            -= Reelix =-

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                            • R Ravi Bhavnani

                              I don't think you're imagining it. The spelling ability of adult native English speakers appears to have fallen in the past 10-15 years.  CNN's TV and online media are prime examples (at least in the US).  Txtspk may have something to do with it.  Most software engineers I know also find it difficult to correctly write technical documentation.  This seems to be a marked change from the '80s. /ravi

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                              BC3Tech
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                              i consider myself an excellent typist and speller, and also pretty adept at writing tech documentation. i suppose it's just another fxn of how well you absorb/retain information.

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                              • H Henry Minute

                                ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

                                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                No. Not really. I personally try as much as possible to spell correctly and I will always go back to my comments to make sure that even the grammar is sort of correct! Even if it means writing a few more lines (a short story) so that my intentions are clear - an Achilles heel that stems from my background as an English major turned software developer perhaps?

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                                • H Henry Minute

                                  ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

                                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                  Steve Naidamast
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                                  The art and skill of good writing habits has become a lost trait among the younger generations. This is due to to several factors, the first being the constant interfacing with gadgets and gadget-like sites such as Facebook where proper writing is not considered important so new forms of lexical garbage and shorthanded conversions are used instead. Next, we have a seriously declining public education system that is more interested in testing students than it is in having them learn quality skills. In the 1960s we had huge amounts of essay work which followed us in to university. Our essays were scrutinized not only for content but proper sentence structure and the way in which content was presented to the reader. Today people simply cannot communicate properly anymore whether it be with the written word or verbally. Everything has been reduced to sound-bites as corporations promote the lowering of standards and quality in their products for profit.

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                                  • M musefan

                                    I rarely make spelling mistakes in CP or on other website because I get a red squiggle to spank my ass. One common mistake I do do thou is use the wrong word due to typing to fast or even pluralise something I should not However, when I am typing important work related stuff then I take much more care with spelling, grammar, etc. My coding rarely suffers due to compiler errors, and when I am coding string data then I do so at a slower rate to minimize mistakes Basically, when in isn't work related, I just don't care about the odd mistake or two

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                                    MacRaider4
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                                    I love the red squiggle under all my misspelled words, helps me look a little better at least (and I need all the help I can get at times) :laugh: Code wise I tend to screw up variables, though not always noticed that I have done it, thank you M$ for the auto complete of variable names in C# for example:

                                    int16 intValeu = 0;
                                    //random code
                                    intvaleu = intValeu + intSomething;

                                    opps should have been intValue. Like mentioned I always take my time with strings and what the end user is going to see...

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                                    • H Henry Minute

                                      ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                      eps_dev
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                                      I once worked for a telecom in a department that had nearly 50 developers. From what I saw, the people whose emails, comments, and documentation were sloppy in terms of spelling tended to show the same level of sloppiness with their code.

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                                      • H Henry Minute

                                        ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

                                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                        Please forgive our spelling, at least for some of us developers who started our career in some of the older programming languages where we had very short maximum length requirements for variable (member for you young'ins) names. So there are some excuses, albeit lame, for spelling mistakes. But, I agree with you about mis-spellings especially when there are spell checkers available. I have read many articles both on computer science and in magazines such as Time, Newsweek, and the Wall Street Journal with a multitude of spelling and grammar mistakes. I asked some of the people here in my office if they use the spell checker, and out of 15 people, only four (4) including myself do. The basic answer for not using the spell/grammar checker is that it slows down their typing.

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                                        • H Henry Minute

                                          ^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                          Not me.


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