Are all programmers crap at speling?
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
No. Not really. I personally try as much as possible to spell correctly and I will always go back to my comments to make sure that even the grammar is sort of correct! Even if it means writing a few more lines (a short story) so that my intentions are clear - an Achilles heel that stems from my background as an English major turned software developer perhaps?
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
The art and skill of good writing habits has become a lost trait among the younger generations. This is due to to several factors, the first being the constant interfacing with gadgets and gadget-like sites such as Facebook where proper writing is not considered important so new forms of lexical garbage and shorthanded conversions are used instead. Next, we have a seriously declining public education system that is more interested in testing students than it is in having them learn quality skills. In the 1960s we had huge amounts of essay work which followed us in to university. Our essays were scrutinized not only for content but proper sentence structure and the way in which content was presented to the reader. Today people simply cannot communicate properly anymore whether it be with the written word or verbally. Everything has been reduced to sound-bites as corporations promote the lowering of standards and quality in their products for profit.
Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com
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I rarely make spelling mistakes in CP or on other website because I get a red squiggle to spank my ass. One common mistake I do do thou is use the wrong word due to typing to fast or even pluralise something I should not However, when I am typing important work related stuff then I take much more care with spelling, grammar, etc. My coding rarely suffers due to compiler errors, and when I am coding string data then I do so at a slower rate to minimize mistakes Basically, when in isn't work related, I just don't care about the odd mistake or two
I may or may not be responsible for my own actions
I love the red squiggle under all my misspelled words, helps me look a little better at least (and I need all the help I can get at times) :laugh: Code wise I tend to screw up variables, though not always noticed that I have done it, thank you M$ for the auto complete of variable names in C# for example:
int16 intValeu = 0;
//random code
intvaleu = intValeu + intSomething;opps should have been intValue. Like mentioned I always take my time with strings and what the end user is going to see...
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Please forgive our spelling, at least for some of us developers who started our career in some of the older programming languages where we had very short maximum length requirements for variable (member for you young'ins) names. So there are some excuses, albeit lame, for spelling mistakes. But, I agree with you about mis-spellings especially when there are spell checkers available. I have read many articles both on computer science and in magazines such as Time, Newsweek, and the Wall Street Journal with a multitude of spelling and grammar mistakes. I asked some of the people here in my office if they use the spell checker, and out of 15 people, only four (4) including myself do. The basic answer for not using the spell/grammar checker is that it slows down their typing.
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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I am crap at spelling and my handwriting is ugly as hell... Thats why I became a computer programmer and not a english teacher.
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>
R. Erasmus wrote:
I am crap at spelling and my handwriting is ugly as hell
With those qualifications, you should have become a Doctor!
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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I've always been crap at spelling, and there are certain words I have a complete blindness for. For example 'throat' usually takes me 3 or 4 stabs before the spellchecker can work out what I am trying to spell. I generally start off with throught and get worse from there. Also I tend to spell better if not thinking, otherwise there are some words I cannot decide how to spell if directly thinking about them.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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Nonsense. Coffee doesn't affect my typing at all.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Henry Minute wrote:
Nonsense.
Coffee doesn't affect my typing at all."Nope, I have the caffeine patch. It's my invention. Each patch is the equivalent of 12 cups of coffee. You can stay up for days with no side effects. Ahhh! Sorry. " Lucille Krunkelhorn - "Meet the Robinsons"
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I rarely make spelling mistakes in CP or on other website because I get a red squiggle to spank my ass. One common mistake I do do thou is use the wrong word due to typing to fast or even pluralise something I should not However, when I am typing important work related stuff then I take much more care with spelling, grammar, etc. My coding rarely suffers due to compiler errors, and when I am coding string data then I do so at a slower rate to minimize mistakes Basically, when in isn't work related, I just don't care about the odd mistake or two
I may or may not be responsible for my own actions
musefan wrote:
Basically, when in isn't work related, I just don't care about the odd mistake or two
As a schoolmate of mine once said when I corrected his grammar, "I'm just communicating." I do despair of much of the Internet "communications" I see of late. It shows that some folks have either not been taught properly or they're (their, there) too (to, two) lazy to care. I swear that besides not being able to use the right words some people don't hear the same thing I'm hearing. Of late I'm seeing some people use the word "sence" in place of "since." Odd behavior (behaviour.)
I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office
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musefan wrote:
Basically, when in isn't work related, I just don't care about the odd mistake or two
As a schoolmate of mine once said when I corrected his grammar, "I'm just communicating." I do despair of much of the Internet "communications" I see of late. It shows that some folks have either not been taught properly or they're (their, there) too (to, two) lazy to care. I swear that besides not being able to use the right words some people don't hear the same thing I'm hearing. Of late I'm seeing some people use the word "sence" in place of "since." Odd behavior (behaviour.)
I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Face it, after a while, English is no longer your primary language. Sometimes Decimal is no longer your number base. So yes, you will make spelling errors and math errors. Although I can tolerant bad spelling in comments, bad spelling in function and variable names drive me batty.
Psychosis at 10 Film at 11
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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Mark AJA wrote:
Do you mean specialists.
No.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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Its not about being too lazy to care. It is about prioritising what is worth spending the extra time on and what simple doesn't matta
I may or may not be responsible for my own actions
I think you're wrong but you do not realize it. Making a spelling error once in a while I get it, but most of the people that make frequent spelling errors lack education in that area. They are not prioritizing; they are making "educated guesses" of what they think the spelling should be. English is a second language for me so in the beginning I could not understand everything in a movie or a program on TV. I really needed CC or subtitling as it helped me learn a lot. I have seen forums where native speakers of English were demeaning other people that were looking for subtitles, categorizing them to put it plainly as slow or handicapped or stupid. These are the same people that in the same post were using "definately" or "sence" instead of sense or "their" instead of they're. If these arrogant individuals would watch a movie with subtitles they would probably discover how bad they are at spelling. Somebody who prioritizes would probably use well known abbreviations to get it done faster but he or she would not butcher words. I totally get the LOL and BRB constructs in a chat, but I don't understand "vise-versa" when it should be "vice-versa" or "verses" when it should be "versus" (better use the "vs." abbreviation). Anyway to answer the OP's original question, no! Not all programmers are crap at spelling. That's because this flaw has nothing to do with programming but the individual.
giuchici
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I don't know if programmers are better or worse, but I think they should be better at spelling and grammar. Programming is all about following rules and structure. Inconsistencies and special cases make computing much more difficult. As a programmer, I hate it when people misspell words, make grammatical mistakes, leave spaces or tabs at the end of a line, more than one newline at the end of a file, etc. It shows a sense of carelessness and lack of attention to detail that doesn't fit a programmer.
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^(deliberate) The standard of spelling here in t'Lounge and other CP Fora is not particularly high, even allowing for ESL and Yanks. I am one of the worlds worst spellists, but tend to make only typing errors when coding. I know, I know, the first one is touching the keyboard at all. So, is this a general trend or am I just imagining it?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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I don't know if programmers are better or worse, but I think they should be better at spelling and grammar. Programming is all about following rules and structure. Inconsistencies and special cases make computing much more difficult. As a programmer, I hate it when people misspell words, make grammatical mistakes, leave spaces or tabs at the end of a line, more than one newline at the end of a file, etc. It shows a sense of carelessness and lack of attention to detail that doesn't fit a programmer.
Charvak Karpe wrote:
but I think they should be better at spelling and grammar. Programming is all about following rules and structure.
One of the reasons that I asked the question.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.